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Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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  • #7502
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    I sounded the alarm 2 months ago about the increasing numbers and the worrying trends. I was told it was an outlier. Now that the numbers have increased I'm labeled a doom monger. I know there's a lot of mental fatigue but people have to stay strong

    But how many of those cases required hospitalisation?


  • #7503
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/

    New interactive map released by dept of health showing where current and recent covid new cases are. Colour coded.

    Actually very startling to see which areas are worst. I live close to a bad area.

    Bottom of the page.


  • #7504
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,011 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    We have no idea how many people have died OF this virus. But considering it's 6% in the US, so that should give us an idea.

    Thats completely untrue and has been repeatedly and totally debunked. That figure doesnt differentiate between pre conditions and post conditions.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #7505
    CiarraiManc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 204 ✭✭CiarraiManc


    Eod100 wrote: »
    HSPC data here with ages of people who died so far.

    https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/casesinireland/epidemiologyofcovid-19inireland/COVID-19_Daily_epidemiology_report_(NPHET)_20200918%20-%20Website.pdf

    I thought that info wasn't being released by the government because much casedemic? According to some that's the case


  • #7506
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Eod100 wrote: »
    HSPC data here with ages of people who died so far.

    https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/casesinireland/epidemiologyofcovid-19inireland/COVID-19_Daily_epidemiology_report_(NPHET)_20200918%20-%20Website.pdf

    The point I'm making is, you turn on the news and you hear a 45 year old man died in a car crash, for example. You do not have to search for that level of detail yet for Covid related deaths you do. Thanks for the link btw.


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  • #7507
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    CiarraiManc wrote: »
    They're traitors as far as I'm concerned. Not willing to sacrifice a few drinks or shags to save the elderly and vulnerable. Makes me ****ing sick some days

    What if the elderly want to shag and drink.


  • #7508
    Denny61
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Denny61


    CiarraiManc wrote: »
    They're traitors as far as I'm concerned. Not willing to sacrifice a few drinks or shags to save the elderly and vulnerable. Makes me ****ing sick some days

    Those shags can give you more worrying things than the virus..aren't the women lucky that you keeping it in your pants instead of spreading the old STDs around...


  • #7509
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,225 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    The point I'm making is, you turn on the news and you hear a 45 year old man died in a car crash, for example. You do not have to search for that level of detail yet for Covid related deaths you do. Thanks for the link btw.

    I don't know if patient confidentiality applies if someone dies but guess a bit different than car crash or fire say. Maybe there's another reason why they don't release the info in real time.


  • #7510
    Kh1993
    Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭Kh1993


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    It's the new social media generation, they'd like a Facebook page to raise awareness about the Rohingyas but when it comes to real action like masks and social distancing they're moaning at every guideline.

    All clicks no substance.

    Bizarre post. Yes, you are correct. We care more about a crisis on the other side of the world than our own families. You keep believing that.

    While we’re at it, wonder what happens to the HSE (the very thing helping the people this generation apparently doesn’t), when the magic money tree runs out of cash from reduced tax take and extended PUP etc.


  • #7511
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    niallo27 wrote: »
    What if the elderly want to shag and drink.

    Lord Jonathan Sumption argues that the elderly and vulnerable should be entitled to decide for themselves whether they want to shield themselves or not.

    He has also described the UK Government's response to COVID-19 as "the worst interference with personal liberty in our history".


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  • #7512
    DebDynamite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    speckle wrote: »
    Agreed rip numbers not official but there was some research into them, and it turned out they were pretty spot on.

    Is that what you’re thinking of?

    http://https://mobile.twitter.com/GrahamNeary/status/1305474304797278208

    Edit - sorry, I don’t know how to embed a tweet :o


  • #7513
    CiarraiManc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 204 ✭✭CiarraiManc


    Eod100 wrote: »
    I don't know if patient confidentiality applies if someone dies but guess a bit different than car crash or fire say. Maybe there's another reason why they don't release the info in real time.

    If a 45 year old dies in a crash his family aren't going to catch it and spread it


  • #7514
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Eod100 wrote: »
    I don't know if patient confidentiality applies if someone dies but guess a bit different than car crash or fire say. Maybe there's another reason why they don't release the info in real time.

    Someone dies why does confidentiality come into it based on one particular cause of death? That doesn't make sense. Either give the age of all or none.


  • #7515
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Eod100 wrote: »
    HSPC data here with ages of people who died so far.

    https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/casesinireland/epidemiologyofcovid-19inireland/COVID-19_Daily_epidemiology_report_(NPHET)_20200918%20-%20Website.pdf

    Only 42% of the deaths actually went to hospital, that's a pretty important number if you can take feelings out of it and just look at the stats.


  • #7516
    VeVeX
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭VeVeX


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    We have no idea how many people have died OF this virus. But considering it's 6% in the US, so that should give us an idea.

    The case fatality rate in Ireland is 4.79%.

    The case hospitalization rate is 10.9%.

    But as we know the infection rate in the population is at least three times the confirmed case rate so the percentages are hugely overstated.

    https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/casesinireland/epidemiologyofcovid-19inireland/COVID-19_Daily_epidemiology_report_(NPHET)_20200918%20-%20Website.pdf

    https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/scopi/SCOPI%20report%20preliminary%20results%20final%20version.pdf


  • #7517
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Kh1993 wrote: »
    Bizarre post. Yes, you are correct. We care more about a crisis on the other side of the world than our own families. You keep believing that.

    While we’re at it, wonder what happens to the HSE (the very thing helping the people this generation apparently doesn’t), when the magic money tree runs out of cash from reduced tax take and extended PUP etc.

    Don't worry. According to some, we'll never run out of money.


  • #7518
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Kh1993 wrote: »
    Bizarre post. Yes, you are correct. We care more about a crisis on the other side of the world than our own families. You keep believing that.

    While we’re at it, wonder what happens to the HSE (the very thing helping the people this generation apparently doesn’t), when the magic money tree runs out of cash from reduced tax take and extended PUP etc.

    What do you think money is? It Basically is Magic, they create it out of thin air, it's worth what ever value we put on it, so don't worry we're not going to 'run out of it'


  • #7519
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,045 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    What do you think money is? It Basically is Magic, they create it out of thin air, it's worth what ever value we put on it, so don't worry we're not going to 'run out of it'

    History has shown that you are badly wrong.


  • #7520
    RebelButtMunch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭RebelButtMunch


    Can we have a local lockdowns.?

    It's a bit mad that the bottom of the list, BlackRock pays the price for the shenanigans at the top of the list


  • #7521
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,225 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/

    New interactive map released by dept of health showing where current and recent covid new cases are. Colour coded.

    Actually very startling to see which areas are worst. I live close to a bad area.

    Bottom of the page.

    Very handy but the similar brown colour codes are awful


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  • #7522
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,225 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    CiarraiManc wrote: »
    I thought that info wasn't being released by the government because much casedemic? According to some that's the case

    Sorry I don't get ya?


  • #7523
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Out of interest, apart from Ireland and the UK, are there any other countries in the world where the people are being threatened with more and more lockdowns? Israel is the only other one I can think of.


  • #7524
    CiarraiManc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 204 ✭✭CiarraiManc


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Sorry I don't get ya?

    Some posters were saying that info on the ages of those who died wasn't being released by the government. Your link proves otherwise


  • #7525
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    Eod100 wrote: »
    HSPC data here with ages of people who died so far.

    https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/casesinireland/epidemiologyofcovid-19inireland/COVID-19_Daily_epidemiology_report_(NPHET)_20200918%20-%20Website.pdf


    from that the first family cluster occured in february in a household, was that cork, dublin or kerry?


  • #7526
    smellyoldboot
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭smellyoldboot


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    What do you think money is? It Basically is Magic, they create it out of thin air, it's worth what ever value we put on it, so don't worry we're not going to 'run out of it'

    That's about half right. You go ask a bank for a loan, yes they create this money in the modern system, it doesn't come from existing deposits, or at least they get this money a central bank who has gotten it from a larger again entity who ultimately creates the money from "thin air" as it is.

    Unfortunately when times get tough these entities start to say no, why would we create more for you, you have X amount outstanding that is unlikely to be paid back, the bank at the bottom of the chain then says no to new customers and gas to chase up those non paying customers often with no success, so no lending can occur, investment decreases only those with cash reserves can play the game and economies shrink.

    So while money can be created, it just won't be indefinitely.


  • #7527
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Out of interest, apart from Ireland and the UK, are there any other countries in the world where the people are being threatened with more and more lockdowns? Israel is the only other one I can think of.

    Austria and Spain


  • #7528
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,225 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    CiarraiManc wrote: »
    Some posters were saying that info on the ages of those who died wasn't being released by the government. Your link proves otherwise

    It's not being released in real time but yeah is released alright over time.


  • #7529
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,225 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Out of interest, apart from Ireland and the UK, are there any other countries in the world where the people are being threatened with more and more lockdowns? Israel is the only other one I can think of.

    Parts of UK, Australia, etc have all had restrictions reimposed to some degree


  • #7530
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Age Effected rolling

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  • #7531
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    RebelButtMunch wrote: »
    Can we have a local lockdowns.?

    It's a bit mad that the bottom of the list, BlackRock pays the price for the shenanigans at the top of the list

    Balbriggan includes skerries where there was an outbreak with loads of teenagers on ticktok.


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