Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

Wolf359f · 19-09-2020 04:28PM

Curious_Case wrote: »

Why would you expect to see an appreciable increase in those age ranges ?
Are you assuming that CARRIERS in that age range would show symptoms en masse ?

I don't have a breakdown of testing per age range, but going by reports on here and the substantial increase in community referrals it would appear there's been quite a high increase in children getting testing, yet there's been no increase in the percentage of cases in children compared to all age ranges.

DebDynamite · 19-09-2020 04:28PM

Peter Flynt wrote: »

Not true.

More cases from September 1-18 than from from June 29 (when pubs reopened)-August 31 with up to 100 schools reporting cases.

At the end of the day sending one million into buildings with no social distancing was always going to be a disaster.

We were at our lowest cases one month before the pubs opened, compared to our surge beginning one month before the schools opened. Of course there would be more cases (but not hugely so) coming off the back of a surge when cases everywhere were growing!! If anything your point proves that neither pubs nor schools were particular drivers for cases.

Blondini · 19-09-2020 04:28PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Anyone know if there's a backlog? haven't been keeping track

Jaysus man, if you haven't been keeping track it really is the end of days :eek:

I jest.

smellyoldboot · 19-09-2020 04:31PM

In about 6 months time when it will have been far far too late, the useless goons we elect to lead will admit bringing the schools back in the manner they did was a colossal mistake. And this will come after the govt collapses after one scandal too many in a very short timeframe.

The only small good to come from all this is that this brief spell back in government should finally kill off Fianna Fail. Only an absolute dribbling imbecile could have any confidence in them at this stage.

stockshares · 19-09-2020 04:31PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Latest HPSC Epidemiological Update - 16th September 2020

Data compared with previous report on 12th September 2020.

Overview
Confirmed Cases +1034
Total Hospitalised +33
Total in ICU +5
Total Deaths +8
Clusters +217
Cases associated with clusters +743
Imported Cases +7
Healthcare Workers +70

Age Range
0-4 +40
5-14 +92
15-24 +240
25-34 +152
35-44 +124
45-54 +160
55-64 +120
65-74 +70
75-84 +29
85+ +7

Types of Transmission
Community transmission, incl. possible community transmission -9
Local transmission, incl. possible local transmission +1150
Travel abroad, incl. possible travel abroad +10
Unknown -117

Cases Hospitalised
0-4 No Change
5-14 No Change
15-24 +3
25-34 No Change
35-44 +2
45-54 +5
55-64 +3
65-74 +9
75-84 +8
85+ +3

Deaths
45-54 +1
55-64 +2
65-74 -1
75-84 +4
85+ +2

Types of Outbreaks
Private House +163
Nursing Home +2
Other (includes community, extended family, hotel, public house, retail outlet, travel related and all other locations) +34
Residential Institution +1
Hospital +2
Workplace +13
Comm. Hospital/Long-stay unit - No Change
Unknown +2

Location of Outbreaks (by HSE area)
East +124
Mid +11
Mid-West +10
North-East +17
North-West +19
South +9
South-East +13
West +14

There were
+163 private house cases
+217 Clusters
+743 Cases associated with clusters
+ 34 Other(Inc community transmission)

I'm trying to understand how the community transmission, private house outbreaks and clusters relate to each other?

Could the 34 Other/Community Transmission cases have created the 163 private house cases and could a number of private house outbreaks be part of a cluster?

Also how do they differentiate between the type of private house outbreaks(house party's or community introduced).

Example
If 1 person picked up the virus in a pub/restaurant and returns home and infects three people in their household that is documented as 1 case of community transmission and 3 cases in a private house.
Is that private house then considered a cluster or is it considered a cluster if people in that house infect their neighbours?

Curious_Case · 19-09-2020 04:34PM

Wolf359f wrote: »

I don't have a breakdown of testing per age range, but going by reports on here and the substantial increase in community referrals it would appear there's been quite a high increase in children getting testing, yet there's been no increase in the percentage of cases in children compared to all age ranges.

I've probably misunderstood you.

I thought there was a consensus that infected children were more likely to be asymptomatic carriers than to display symptoms.

Jinglejangle69 · 19-09-2020 04:35PM

Why are the numbers still so low in many counties if schools are the reason for the surge?

Peter Flynt · 19-09-2020 04:37PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

We were at our lowest cases one month before the pubs opened, compared to our surge beginning one month before the schools opened. Of course there would be more cases (but not hugely so) coming off the back of a surge when cases everywhere were growing!! If anything your point proves that neither pubs nor schools were particular drivers for cases.

We weren't.

We were at our lowest number of cases post lockdown on June 28th with 3 cases.

Get your facts right.

ACitizenErased · 19-09-2020 04:38PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Why are the numbers still so low in many counties if schools are the reason for the surge?

Because maybe schools are not the reason for the surge, just maybe

Boggles · 19-09-2020 04:39PM

Wolf359f wrote: »

I don't have a breakdown of testing per age range, but going by reports on here and the substantial increase in community referrals it would appear there's been quite a high increase in children getting testing, yet there's been no increase in the percentage of cases in children compared to all age ranges.

But there is a near doubling in instances of infection detected in Children under 14.

Which was a completely false figure to begin with because we didn't test.

So the narrative kids don't really get the disease was BS.

They seem to get as much as everyone else.

The next live experiment which we have gone spectacularly heads first into, is how easily do they spread it.

We should know conclusively by mid November if not before.

Peter Flynt · 19-09-2020 04:40PM

smellyoldboot wrote: »

In about 6 months time when it will have been far far too late, the useless goons we elect to lead will admit bringing the schools back in the manner they did was a colossal mistake. And this will come after the govt collapses after one scandal too many in a very short timeframe.

The only small good to come from all this is that this brief spell back in government should finally kill off Fianna Fail. Only an absolute dribbling imbecile could have any confidence in them at this stage.

When South Korea reopened schools they had one covid case PER MILLION people . . . and proceeded to close them again in Seoul thereafter after a slight increase.

Wolf359f · 19-09-2020 04:40PM

Boggles wrote: »

Which other age group has almost doubled in confirmed infections in the past 30 days?

0-4 - 204% increase
5-14 - 254% increase
15-24 - 175% increase
25-34 - 172% increase
35-44 - 199% increase
45-54 - 240% increase
55-64 - 224% increase
65-74 - 371% increase
75-84 - 243% increase
85+ - 633% increase

That's the difference in weekly reported case numbers over the past 4 weeks.

Wolf359f · 19-09-2020 04:42PM

Boggles wrote: »

But there is a near doubling in instances of infection detected in Children under 14.

Which was a completely false figure to begin with because we didn't test.

So the narrative kids don't really get the disease was BS.

They seem to get as much as everyone else.

The next live experiment which we have gone spectacularly heads first into, is how easily do they spread it.

We should know conclusively by mid November if not before.

That's what Trump believes!

Curious_Case · 19-09-2020 04:42PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Whats the time being, 3 weeks, 3 months, a year, until a vaccine comes.

No answer to that really until a vaccine comes --

Reduce the heat if the pot starts to boil over, more heat can be allowed if it goes off the boil

A balancing act really, react appropriately to a dynamic situation.

Peter Flynt · 19-09-2020 04:43PM

Wolf359f wrote: »

0-4 - 204% increase
5-14 - 254% increase
15-24 - 175% increase
25-34 - 172% increase
35-44 - 199% increase
45-54 - 240% increase
55-64 - 224% increase
65-74 - 371% increase
75-84 - 243% increase
85+ - 633% increase

That's the difference in weekly reported case numbers over the past 4 weeks.

I'm old enough to remember when we were told that kids did not catch or transmit the virus.

Boggles · 19-09-2020 04:47PM

Wolf359f wrote: »

0-4 - 204% increase
5-14 - 254% increase
15-24 - 175% increase
25-34 - 172% increase
35-44 - 199% increase
45-54 - 240% increase
55-64 - 224% increase
65-74 - 371% increase
75-84 - 243% increase
85+ - 633% increase

That's the difference in weekly reported case numbers over the past 4 weeks.

I am talking about confirmed infections overall as a percentage

As in a month ago there was 250 children under 4 confirmed to have had the virus, now that is closer to 500. *

* Figures not accurate.

Plumbthedepths · 19-09-2020 04:52PM

smellyoldboot wrote: »

In about 6 months time when it will have been far far too late, the useless goons we elect to lead will admit bringing the schools back in the manner they did was a colossal mistake. And this will come after the govt collapses after one scandal too many in a very short timeframe.

The only small good to come from all this is that this brief spell back in government should finally kill off Fianna Fail. Only an absolute dribbling imbecile could have any confidence in them at this stage.

No fan of FF but what precisely is allowing FG and the Greens a free ride in your opinion? Last I saw Leo 'minister for everything except his own brief ' and 'Sleepy' Ryan are part of a tri party government.

Oranage2 · 19-09-2020 04:53PM

Benimar wrote: »

196 positive swabs on 14,157 tests. 1.38% positivity

Looks like we're finally beating it

giveitholly · 19-09-2020 04:54PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Looks like we're finally beating it

A positive post from Oranage,something is amiss

Boggles · 19-09-2020 04:56PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Looks like we're finally beating it

Early cans?

Plumbthedepths · 19-09-2020 04:57PM

giveitholly wrote: »

A positive post from Oranage,something is amiss

It's late where he is, China. Probably had a few tinnies.

Benimar · 19-09-2020 04:59PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Looks like we're finally beating it

You have to be taking the p1ss with your daily fluctuations!

250 cases doesn’t mean we are doomed, no more than one day below 200 means we are ‘beating’ it.

ACitizenErased · 19-09-2020 05:00PM

The formula must be giving positive results lads

Dionaibh · 19-09-2020 05:05PM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8750139/Scientists-claim-UK-covid-19-victims-July-August-died-causes.html

https://www.newsweek.com/tennessee-woman-who-died-six-months-ago-notified-letter-she-tested-positive-covid-19-1529842

A reminder to take COVID infections, and deaths, with a gigantic pinch of salt.

JJayoo · 19-09-2020 05:09PM

Dionaibh wrote: »

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8750139/Scientists-claim-UK-covid-19-victims-July-August-died-causes.html

https://www.newsweek.com/tennessee-woman-who-died-six-months-ago-notified-letter-she-tested-positive-covid-19-1529842

A reminder to take COVID infections, and deaths, with a gigantic pinch of salt.

Any post that offers the daily mail...I just can't do it

smellyoldboot · 19-09-2020 05:14PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

No fan of FF but what precisely is allowing FG and the Greens a free ride in your opinion? Last I saw Leo 'minister for everything except his own brief ' and 'Sleepy' Ryan are part of a tri party government.

The greens are as irrelevant as they always have been and always should be. In fact they are so irrelevant I forgot they were even at the table. You can blame the worst of generation snowflake for them even having a seat at the table.

While they deserve a fair bit of flack as it isn't exactly acting in the national interest, politically FG are playing a blinder by standing aside and letting FF make and own all the terrible decisions at the moment while essentially playing opposition in public but supporting Martin at least in practice with votes. I think they will pull the plug very soon.

niallo27 · 19-09-2020 05:14PM

Curious_Case wrote: »

No answer to that really until a vaccine comes --

Reduce the heat if the pot starts to boil over, more heat can be allowed if it goes off the boil

A balancing act really, react appropriately to a dynamic situation.

So reduce contacts and presume you have it until there is a vaccine. You realise how crazy that sounds.

Dionaibh · 19-09-2020 05:15PM

JJayoo wrote: »

Any post that offers the daily mail...I just can't do it

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/09/18/almost-one-third-covid-deaths-july-august-primarily-caused-conditions/

The Telegraph do?

WoollyRedHat · 19-09-2020 05:15PM

Can there be a ban on linking to the cesspit that is the Daily Mail please and thank you.

WoollyRedHat · 19-09-2020 05:16PM

Dionaibh wrote: »

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/09/18/almost-one-third-covid-deaths-july-august-primarily-caused-conditions/

The Telegraph do?

The Torygraph? No.

Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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