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Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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  • #6482
    Hawthorn Tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 544 ✭✭✭Hawthorn Tree


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Not an easy time. Look at Spain's numbers. This is for the greater good. Hospitality and covid are a difficult mix.

    Covid loves to party...who said that?


  • #6483
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    sideswipe wrote: »
    Yes. But you'll address by our proper name ya little Bollix:p
    Rellies who are local, use that so just being authentic.


  • #6484
    1641
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭1641


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    The word expontial is being thrown around by TDs and RTE like confetti when its obvious they don't understand what it means.

    For something like covid 19 to be exponential the R0 would need to be at least 2. There's no evidence of that at the moment. The numbers have been growing slowly over the last couple of weeks.


    That is simply false. Once R is greater than 1 there is exponential acceleration.The only question becomes the rate of exponential growth. An R of less than 1 would indicate exponential decline.


  • #6485
    The Nal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Hawthorn Tree wrote: »
    He's just a slob like one of us.

    Just a stranger wearing a mask on the bus?


  • #6486
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    This clusterfook seems to be at partly as a result of deficiencies in the tracking/tracing system.

    Meanwhile yesterday Paul Reid was blaming the coalition and praising himself.


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  • #6487
    billybonkers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    Any idea in time for the announcement?


  • #6488
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,459 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    The Nal wrote: »
    Yeah. Woodbrook golf club is the Dublin/Wicklow border. The Coach Inn is in Bray but 50 feet from Corke Abbey estate which is in Dublin and makes up most of their regulars.

    That whole area around Old Conna is a grey area. Addresses are bray co.wicklow but they vote in DLR.

    Safe to say everyone sees it as Bray though.

    Shankill will probably migrate to Bray for the next few weekends


  • #6489
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    The Nal wrote: »
    Yeah. Woodbrook golf club is the Dublin/Wicklow border. The Coach Inn is in Bray but 50 feet from Corke Abbey estate which is in Dublin and makes up most of their regulars.
    So there'll be a Garda presence there on that border!


  • #6490
    Hawthorn Tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 544 ✭✭✭Hawthorn Tree


    billybonkers wrote: »
    Any idea in time for the announcement?

    Last Tuesday...


  • #6491
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Hawthorn Tree wrote: »
    Covid loves to party...who said that?

    https://twitter.com/colettebrowne/status/1296836142474698753?s=20


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  • #6492
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    is_that_so wrote: »
    So there'll be a Garda presence there on that border!

    Is there actual legislation under which the Gardai will be told to carry out checks at the edge of Dublin? If there is, does the legislation allow them to force people to turn around?


  • #6493
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Hawthorn Tree wrote: »
    Covid loves to party...who said that?

    A former argri minister soon after it came to light he also liked to party.


  • #6494
    fleet_admiral
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    The Nal wrote: »
    Yeah. Woodbrook golf club is the Dublin/Wicklow border. The Coach Inn is in Bray but 50 feet from Corke Abbey estate which is in Dublin and makes up most of their regulars.

    My brother Iives facing the coach, in Bray, co. Dublin.

    There is €1300 worth of food stock where I am now, myself and other pubs are strongly considering a French farmer style protest outside Leinster House, ie. We are thinking about dumping all food stock on at the main gate


  • #6495
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,459 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    is_that_so wrote: »
    So there'll be a Garda presence there on that border!

    Not a chance, neither Bray nor Shankill like to claim it, too much through traffic into Wicklow for checkpoints.

    Was different when there was nobody on the roads


  • #6496
    billybonkers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    https://twitter.com/sandra_hurley/status/1306981635087388672?s=19


  • #6497
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,459 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    fleet_admiral wrote: »
    My brother Iives facing the coach, in Bray, co. Dublin.

    There is €1300 worth of food stock where I am now, myself and other pubs are strongly considering a French farmer style protest outside Leinster House, ie. We are thinking about dumping all food stock on at the main gate

    Nice little pub, used to work in it myself.

    At this stage just go for it


  • #6498
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    fleet_admiral wrote: »
    My brother Iives facing the coach, in Bray, co. Dublin.

    There is €1300 worth of food stock where I am now, myself and other pubs are strongly considering a French farmer style protest outside Leinster House, ie. We are thinking about dumping all food stock on at the main gate

    Better feed it to homeless and collect their poop and dump that instead.

    Double whammy


  • #6499
    ednwireland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,742 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    fleet_admiral wrote: »
    My brother Iives facing the coach, in Bray, co. Dublin.

    There is €1300 worth of food stock where I am now, myself and other pubs are strongly considering a French farmer style protest outside Leinster House, ie. We are thinking about dumping all food stock on at the main gate

    go for it !

    tell people for weeks house parties are the source of the problem - solution close indoor dining, makes sense!

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • #6500
    1641
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭1641


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Why? Care to explain why a pizza brought in from next door and served to your table in a properly controlled environment is different than cooking it on site and doing the same thing?


    Well, the key is the properly controlled environment.

    It was restaurants that were supposed to opened - and pubs operating as restaurants. Some joints bringing in the sausages and chips were just using it as a way to serve up the pints.The more the merrier! Questionable regard to the "controlled" part of the environment. They were operating as pubs, not restaurants.


  • #6501
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    The ban on indoor dining is going to force people back into homes again, imo obviously


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  • #6502
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    The ban on indoor dining is going to force people back into homes again, imo obviously

    Where do people live when the restaurants are open?


  • #6503
    billybonkers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    The ban on indoor dining is going to force people back into homes again, imo obviously

    Will force more social gatherings indoors to homes. Also the communions that were due tomorrow will not have venus and be forced to peoples homes


  • #6504
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    fleet_admiral wrote: »
    My brother Iives facing the coach, in Bray, co. Dublin.

    There is €1300 worth of food stock where I am now, myself and other pubs are strongly considering a French farmer style protest outside Leinster House, ie. We are thinking about dumping all food stock on at the main gate

    Offering the food to the homeless Or indeed cooking and giving for free outside the Dail might be a nice symbolic gesture and get a positive reaction.


  • #6505
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    The word expontial is being thrown around by TDs and RTE like confetti when its obvious they don't understand what it means.

    For something like covid 19 to be exponential the R0 would need to be at least 2. There's no evidence of that at the moment. The numbers have been growing slowly over the last couple of weeks.
    Not every single person that ever contracted or spread this has been detected. The testing and tracing is not adequate, Philip Nolan said as much on twitter earlier.

    The more cases going around undetected, the more people spreading it. Consider all the people who had it here some time in early February, when we could have gotten the detection system up and running to stop the spread completely. How many of those gave it to several others who also weren't tested?

    The figures are tokenistic and the spread is much bigger than we can detect with the current inadequate system. If you divide the million tests we've done by the amount of weeks we're doing them, that's only 9,000 tests per week. If you adjust the positivity rate to the average of 3.5% per week that's about 34000, almost exactly what we have.

    If we were testing close contacts and everyone with symptoms, it could be about 50,000 per week and our percent positivity would be lower but we would be finding many more cases, it would be a more accurate picture of the spread in every county but NPHET weighed it up early on and determined that it's not worth investing in that because they assumed it would never get out of hand.

    They seemingly didn't consider the reopening would be so careless and that the government would be so slow to adopt their recommendations at crucial times in the last few weeks.

    A teenager threw a drink in Leo's face earlier.
    https://twitter.com/NoelRock/status/1306967632516714497?s=09

    I feel kind of sorry for him and then I remember what a prick he is and don't.


  • #6506
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    billybonkers wrote: »
    Will force more social gatherings indoors to homes. Also the communions that were due tomorrow will not have venus and be forced to peoples homes

    Rather than go out for dinner people will just host dinner at home. Exactly what they don’t want people to do.


  • #6507
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,459 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Standby for more ramblings
    https://twitter.com/SeanDefoe/status/1306984228840787973?s=19


  • #6508
    alentejo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 965 ✭✭✭alentejo


    This will not be for 3 weeks, Would recon a minimum of 5 to 8 weeks.

    No doubt when it comes to reopening, the issue of wet pubs will re-emerge!


  • #6509
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    The ban on indoor dining is going to force people back into homes again, imo obviously

    They'll save a few bob, maybe even try out a few different recipes.


  • #6510
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    i mean if they have 5 levels but they have decided no level works for dublin, then the level system fundamentally doesn't work. it's farcical.

    i suspect the indoor dining ban is due to widespread loopholing by pubs serving crisp sandwiches with business as usual or whatever, but if so they should just come out and say it. or else just be stricter about what qualifies as a restaurant, which they should have done from the start.


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  • #6511
    Allinall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,334 ✭✭✭Allinall


    s1ippy wrote: »
    .....
    A teenager threw a drink in Leo's face earlier.
    https://twitter.com/NoelRock/status/1306967632516714497?s=09

    I feel kind of sorry for him and then I remember what a prick he is and don't.

    Stay classy.


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