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Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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  • #6422
    beaz2018
    Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭beaz2018


    Ger Roe wrote: »
    I don't agree, the plan as published is intended to avoid lockdown. The inability of people to observe some basic guidelines, intended to prevent lockdown, is why additional measures are then suddenly required.

    Obviously lockdown is worse case scenario, but when people won't play ball fairly, then the ball has to be taken away.

    What proof is there that the "inability of people to observe basis guidelines" is the reason for the rise in cases? Please show me the proof. As far as I have seen, the vast majority of cases were in households (people living together is not breaking the guidelines).

    They seem to have no idea where people are getting it in the community (as with all viruses, they are impossible to control) and hence restaurants are being targeted as their latest guess.


  • #6423
    Non solum non ambulabit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    Deleted User wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1306522638416830464

    Not sure ivors theory is standing up?

    Early days but it will be interesting to revisit some of these predictions in 6 months


  • #6424
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    RTÉ News understands that the Cabinet sub-committee on Covid-19 has agreed to adopt all of the National Public Health Emergency Team's recommendations - including a move to Level 3 for Dublin and a ban on indoor dining for the capital.

    However, the measures are subject to Cabinet approval at a full meeting which is now underway.

    If endorsed, the restrictions would be in place for three weeks.

    A Government announcement will be made around teatime.

    An exception been advised by the sub-committee for weddings this weekend, with the reduction from 50 to 25 guests likely to come in on Monday.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0918/1165961-restrictions-live-blog/


  • #6425
    crossman47
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭crossman47


    beaz2018 wrote: »
    What proof is there that the "inability of people to observe basis guidelines" is the reason for the rise in cases? Please show me the proof.

    Well the guidelines don't mean anything to some. I was in a restaurant at lunchtime. Luckily we got a table well screened off but there were large groups at other tables. They seemed to be celebrating communions, They were mingling freely without masks. I saw two older women (probably grannies) hugging one child. Smaller children were running around and they took no notice of staff telling them to sit down. All fairly worrying.
    I'm not a curtain twitcher - I just observed this as I waited for my meal. Ban or no ban, I won't be going back.


  • #6426
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,153 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0918/1165961-restrictions-live-blog/

    On 27th March Simon Harris told us it was for 2 weeks until April 12th. Ended up being 7 weeks so I don’t believe a word they say


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  • #6427
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    RTÉ News understands that the Cabinet sub-committee on Covid-19 has agreed to adopt all of the National Public Health Emergency Team's recommendations - including a move to Level 3 for Dublin and a ban on indoor dining for the capital.

    However, the measures are subject to Cabinet approval at a full meeting which is now underway.

    If endorsed, the restrictions would be in place for three weeks.

    A Government announcement will be made around teatime.

    An exception been advised by the sub-committee for weddings this weekend, with the reduction from 50 to 25 guests likely to come in on Monday.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0918/1165961-restrictions-live-blog/


  • #6428
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    1641 wrote: »
    I feel sorry for the restaurants and genuine food pubs. It is the pub-joints that are bringing in take-aways from the chipper to get around the no-pissups regulations that are spoiling it for the rest.

    Why? Care to explain why a pizza brought in from next door and served to your table in a properly controlled environment is different than cooking it on site and doing the same thing?


  • #6429
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,394 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Gael23 wrote: »
    On 27th March Simon Harris told us it was for 2 weeks until April 12th. Ended up being 7 weeks so I don’t believe a word they say

    It's not like they have crystal balls.


  • #6430
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0918/1165961-restrictions-live-blog/

    If they were going to make exceptions, they should have made exceptions for travel where bookings were made prior to this decision.

    I would have more faith in a system that warned me "Don't book anything from today" than a system that begs me (staycation) to book Irish holidays and then tells me "Tough ****, cancel them all, your plans are scrapped".


  • #6431
    Ger Roe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    Gael23 wrote: »
    On 27th March Simon Harris told us it was for 2 weeks until April 12th. Ended up being 7 weeks so I don’t believe a word they say

    No one ever put a definite timeline on any introduced restrictions ... it was always 'at least until' a certain date, meaning, no review until that date and no guarantee that they will be lifted on that date.

    I don't think this and the previous gov got/get everything right, by any means, but they shouldn't be misquoted.


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  • #6432
    beaz2018
    Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭beaz2018


    crossman47 wrote: »
    Well the guidelines don't mean anything to some. I was in a restaurant at lunchtime. Luckily we got a table well screened off but there were large groups at other tables. They seemed to be celebrating communions, They were mingling freely without masks. I saw two older women (probably grannies) hugging one child. Smaller children were running around and they took no notice of staff telling them to sit down. All fairly worrying.
    I'm not a curtain twitcher - I just observed this as I waited for my meal. Ban or no ban, I won't be going back.

    These antidotes are meaningless unless you can actually prove they resulted in cases.


  • #6433
    PopTarts
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭PopTarts


    Benimar wrote: »
    288 positive swabs on 14,507 tests - 1.99% positivity

    How does positivity go from 2.2% last 7 days (yesterday) to 2.3% today last 7 days if today is 1.99%.


  • #6434
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    PopTarts wrote: »
    How does positivity go from 2.2% last 7 days (yesterday) to 2.3% today last 7 days if today is 1.99%.

    The day being wrote off from the 7 days could be lower than 1.99%


  • #6435
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    https://twitter.com/DrZoeHyde/status/1306939228714971142?s=20


  • #6436
    The Master
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 14,324 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Master


    Will there just be a press release announcing the new Dublin restrictions?

    Or will one of the twats have the balls to face the cameras and announce it?


  • #6437
    Ger Roe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    My guess would be that Micheál will take a slot on the Six One news and do a state of the nation address from the podium at Government Buildings, no doubt flanked by Leo and Stephen, with maybe Dr Glynn on hand for backup.


  • #6438
    crossman47
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭crossman47


    beaz2018 wrote: »
    These antidotes are meaningless unless you can actually prove they resulted in cases.

    Of course I can't prove it in this specific instance. But they weren't observing the practices we should all adhere to and this behaviour clearly leads to spreading the virus.


  • #6439
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,953 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    If they were going to make exceptions, they should have made exceptions for travel where bookings were made prior to this decision.

    I would have more faith in a system that warned me "Don't book anything from today" than a system that begs me (staycation) to book Irish holidays and then tells me "Tough ****, cancel them all, your plans are scrapped".

    Have to agree with this as Iv said I know a couple due to get married in wedding only venue in Meath tomorrow everyone attending are from Dublin some are down at the venue tonight staying over so its OK for them,
    As tradition The groom isn't staying tonight and is still in Dublin so can they even get married tomorrow?


  • #6440
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,153 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    How long were the Kildare restrictions in place for?


  • #6441
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    A beer delivery today?


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  • #6442
    Busi_Girl08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,553 ✭✭✭✭Busi_Girl08


    Ger Roe wrote: »
    My guess would be that Micheál will take a slot on the Six One news and do a state of the nation address from the podium at Government Buildings, no doubt flanked by Leo and Stephen, with maybe Dr Glynn on hand for backup.

    Exactly. No Q&A. Just deliver the bad news, we're all in this together, sacrifices have to be made, etc etc etc, and then peg it.


  • #6443
    Busi_Girl08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,553 ✭✭✭✭Busi_Girl08


    Gael23 wrote: »
    How long were the Kildare restrictions in place for?

    About 5 or 6 weeks I think


  • #6444
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,045 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    The Master wrote: »
    Or will one of the twats have the balls to face the cameras and announce it?
    I'd give them kudos if they said, "And in solidarity with those businesses we've just shut down, all us ministers will be going on PUP for the next three weeks. We're all in this together."


  • #6445
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    PopTarts wrote: »
    How does positivity go from 2.2% last 7 days (yesterday) to 2.3% today last 7 days if today is 1.99%.

    Number are rounded off on the hub did some calcs and yesterday rolling week was 2.23% today it is 2.26%.
    If it is true that the daily testing reports have positives from different days then it would make sense for a week % positives.
    Day% positive went from 4.81% om Monday, that's 2 days worth of results to 1.99% today.


  • #6446
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Gael23 wrote: »
    How long were the Kildare restrictions in place for?
    About 23 days all told(8-31 August), that was two weeks plus 2 more but lifted early.


  • #6447
    Benimar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Busi_Girl08 wrote: »
    About 5 or 6 weeks I think

    24 days. 8 Aug to 1 Sept


  • #6448
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,197 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Gael23 wrote: »
    How long were the Kildare restrictions in place for?

    Nearly three weeks I think and it thankfully had the desired affect. It’s horrible that any county has to go back into some form of lockdown. I don’t think blaming the people of Dublin as a whole is correct or helpful either.


  • #6449
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    ixoy wrote: »
    "And in solidarity with those businesses we've just shut down, all us ministers will be going on PUP for the next three weeks. We're all in this together."

    They will in their sh!te, the people directing this sh!t show will not feel the consequences of what they impose.


  • #6450
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    If they were going to make exceptions, they should have made exceptions for travel where bookings were made prior to this decision.

    I would have more faith in a system that warned me "Don't book anything from today" than a system that begs me (staycation) to book Irish holidays and then tells me "Tough ****, cancel them all, your plans are scrapped".

    Tell me why they can't do this. Seriously. What harm in allowing existing bookings. Do I sound annoyed!


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  • #6451
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    RTÉ News understands that the Cabinet sub-committee on Covid-19 has agreed to adopt all of the National Public Health Emergency Team's recommendations - including a move to Level 3 for Dublin and a ban on indoor dining for the capital.

    However, the measures are subject to Cabinet approval at a full meeting which is now underway.
    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0918/1165913-cabinet-expected-to-tighten-restrictions-on-dublin/


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