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Sam and DQS v Bora, battle for the Green, Stage 19

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    #32
    JMcL
    Registered Users Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭JMcL


    REBELSAFC wrote: »
    LeMond was 50secs down at the start of that stage though.That wouldn't have been recuperated over a flat stage.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLzpYRQvJe8

    I think the aero bars made the difference - nobody else was using them. That was a nail biter - I remember well watching it live. Was disgraceful the reaction of some elements of the crowd in booing Fignon though


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    #33
    Macy0161
    Registered Users Posts: 9,274 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Mefistofelino wrote: »
    Kelly lost the green jersey to Frank Hoste in the final sprint in the '84 Tour
    I was going to say Kelly had, but thought I'd made it up!


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    #34
    Inquitus
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    JMcL wrote: »
    I think the aero bars made the difference - nobody else was using them. That was a nail biter - I remember well watching it live. Was disgraceful the reaction of some elements of the crowd in booing Fignon though

    Booing Lemond surely?


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    #35
    dastardly00
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    Inquitus wrote: »
    Booing Lemond surely?

    It wouldn't be atypical for the French fans to boo their own compatriot!
    (I don't know who was being booed)


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    #36
    Macy0161
    Registered Users Posts: 9,274 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    JMcL wrote: »
    I think the aero bars made the difference - nobody else was using them.
    Gained with the bars, lost time with the helmet I think I heard him say since.

    He put more into Fignon at the Giro. Actually that's where Fignon is really done a disservice imo - not just 8 seconds from that Tour, 8 seconds from Giro - Tour double.


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    #37
    Inquitus
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    JMcL wrote: »
    I think the aero bars made the difference - nobody else was using them. That was a nail biter - I remember well watching it live. Was disgraceful the reaction of some elements of the crowd in booing Fignon though

    Aye it was highly controversial using them at the time.


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    #38
    cunavalos
    Registered Users Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭cunavalos


    Some interesting tables for the tour so far,
    Individual Rider Prizemoney
    Pos Rider Prizemoney(€)
    1 Pogačar Tadej 41350
    2 Roglič Primož 36720
    3 Bennett Sam 34100
    4 Hirschi Marc 33290
    5 Ewan Caleb 28970
    6 van Aert Wout 28200
    7 Alaphilippe Julian 22020
    8 López Miguel Ángel 21590
    9 Kämna Lennard 18550
    10 Carapaz Richard 18430
    11 Peters Nans 14950
    12 Sagan Peter 14840
    13 Kragh Andersen Søren 14470
    14 Kristoff Alexander 13510
    15 Lutsenko Alexey 12680
    16 Kwiatkowski Michał 12630
    17 Martínez Daniel Felipe 12400
    18 Trentin Matteo 11720
    19 Rolland Pierre 11420
    20 Bol Cees 11000

    Total Team Prizemoney
    Considering Arkea have already picked up €600 in team fines there wont be much left for an afterparty there.Movistar's obsession with the team classification does not translate to a lot of daily prizemoney (But is worth €50,000 to the the overall team classification winner)
    Pos Team Prizemoney(€)
    1 Team Jumbo-Visma 82300
    2 Team Sunweb 71030
    3 Deceuninck - Quick Step 57660
    4 UAE-Team Emirates 56010
    5 BORA - hansgrohe 44970
    6 Trek - Segafredo 44850
    7 Astana Pro Team 43180
    8 INEOS Grenadiers 40170
    9 AG2R La Mondiale 35120
    10 Lotto Soudal 29470
    11 EF Pro Cycling 29150
    12 CCC Team 27110
    13 Mitchelton-Scott 25800
    14 B&B Hotels - Vital Concept p/b KTM 24680
    15 Cofidis, Solutions Crédits 24510
    16 Groupama - FDJ 18180
    17 NTT Pro Cycling 14250
    18 Movistar Team 13600
    19 Israel Start-Up Nation 13510
    20 Team Total Direct Energie 12480
    21 Bahrain - McLaren 10520
    22 Team Arkéa Samsic 6600


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    #39
    mcgratheoin
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    Mark Renshaw tipping Wout for the stage win today followed by Sagan and Trentin - obviously doesn't think Sam can hang on or will have anything in the legs if he does.


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    #40
    Dodge
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    I seem to remember that prize money is split evenly throughout the team. So Bennett and Markov get the same. Roglic and Kuss get the same etc

    That’s definitely the way it used to be and I assume it still is

    The leaders are compensated by getting the big salaries


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    #41
    Macy0161
    Registered Users Posts: 9,274 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Dodge wrote: »
    I seem to remember that prize money is split evenly throughout the team. So Bennett and Markov get the same. Roglic and Kuss get the same etc

    That’s definitely the way it used to be and I assume it still is

    The leaders are compensated by getting the big salaries
    The GC winner normally takes no prize money and splits it between the team.

    I think it was on the Cycling Tips podcast this week, they were discussing how TJV would be able to afford to keep all the team together, as well as keep them all happy. They mentioned the money the GC winner normally gets for the Japanese Crits, in the context of Rog missing out. €100,000's just for those two crits, never mind the ones in Europe. In a normal year...


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    #42
    Tim76
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    cunavalos wrote: »
    1 Team Jumbo-Visma 82300
    2 Team Sunweb 71030
    3 Deceuninck - Quick Step 57660
    4 UAE-Team Emirates 56010
    5 BORA - hansgrohe 44970
    6 Trek - Segafredo 44850
    7 Astana Pro Team 43180
    8 INEOS Grenadiers 40170
    9 AG2R La Mondiale 35120
    10 Lotto Soudal 29470
    11 EF Pro Cycling 29150
    12 CCC Team 27110
    13 Mitchelton-Scott 25800
    14 B&B Hotels - Vital Concept p/b KTM 24680
    15 Cofidis, Solutions Crédits 24510
    16 Groupama - FDJ 18180
    17 NTT Pro Cycling 14250
    18 Movistar Team 13600
    19 Israel Start-Up Nation 13510
    20 Team Total Direct Energie 12480
    21 Bahrain - McLaren 10520
    22 Team Arkéa Samsic 6600
    [/TABLE]

    6 grand for Arkea Samsic, it wouldn't even pay for one of the bikes.


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    #43
    Tim76
    Registered Users Posts: 953 ✭✭✭Tim76


    And they're off!


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    #44
    mhiggy09
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    Anyone know what the red thing on DQT riders helmets are? Don't think it's the GPS transceiver as they still have that on their bikes.


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    #45
    lennymc
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    The TGV. LOL. That's some nickname...


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    #46
    Tim76
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    One of the Bora boys stung in the mouth by a bee


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    #47
    Dodge
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    Bora already on the front of the peloton. That’s very early...


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    #48
    Junior
    Registered Users Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭Junior


    Posti abandons.


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    #49
    neris
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    mhiggy09 wrote: »
    Anyone know what the red thing on DQT riders helmets are? Don't think it's the GPS transceiver as they still have that on their bikes.

    some sort of a tracker. its made by specialised for DQS & Bora who wear their helmets. Heard Sam on a podcast saying theyre given to all the riders for training so if theres an accident they can be found. Sam got his 1st one not realising what it was and tore it off the helmet only to get an earful from someone


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    #50
    Macy0161
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    lennymc wrote: »
    The TGV. LOL. That's some nickname...
    He really should sign for Jumbo. The TGV from TJV...

    He may as well sit out front on his own than be sat out front of the peloton. Also gets Bora working early.


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    #51
    [Deleted User]
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    Junior wrote: »
    Posti abandons.

    Bee sting in the mouth. Ouch!!!!


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    #52
    Inquitus
    Registered Users Posts: 13,734 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Seems the Bora tactics are keep the break on a tight leash until 75km in when it gets lumpy then try and blow it to bits, postelberger is a big loss to them though!


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    #53
    [Deleted User]
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    Chromecast broken for anyone else ?


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    #54
    happytramp
    Registered Users Posts: 2,596 ✭✭✭happytramp


    So far, so good for BORA.


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    #55
    CrowdedHouse
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    What's Richie Kavanagh doing up the road?

    Seven Worlds will Collide



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    #56
    Dodge
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    CrowdedHouse wrote: »
    What's Richie Kavanagh doing up the road?

    Making Bora work all day


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    #57
    Itziger
    Registered Users Posts: 4,015 ✭✭✭Itziger


    CrowdedHouse wrote: »
    What's Richie Kavanagh doing up the road?

    Dry run for World's ITT.


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    #58
    bazermc
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    Hirschi looks like he’s gone ten rounds with my ex wife.


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    #59
    Dodge
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    Bora didn’t push on the cat 4 climb. All the peloton over together including Sam, Ewan, Sagan etc


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    #60
    Gallant_JJ
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    Roche doing Sam a favour setting a modest pace


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    #61
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users Posts: 3,107 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    From the TDF website live feed...
    Peter Sagan spoke to TV this morning. "Maybe two more sprinting stages, today and after in Paris", the Slovakian said. "Today's a little bit more up and down. We will see. We try to control. I think also with other teams we're going to come to the sprint. It's very difficult because Sam is always on my wheel if I want to try to go in the break, or stuff like that. And after he's faster in the sprint, you know. We are sprinting, I don't know, 200-300 metres for the sprint, then taking points. Then we will see. I have to try my best in the sprint, and we'll see how it's going. I will try.


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