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Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    niallo27 wrote: »
    For a bit of perspective, today you had a 1 in 20000 chance of catching covid and probably 1 in 200 chance of dieing from it if you did. That's 1 in 4 million. If your less than 50 its probably 1 in 20 million chance of dieing from it. More of a chance of being killed by a pineapple falling off a tree.
    For a bit of perspective, by your "logic", in July, your chances of catching covid at some point during the year were 1 in 1342, and currently your chances of catching covid at some point during the year are 1 in 54..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,497 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Totally out of control in Spain again, over 400 deaths in the last 48 hours. I do not undertsand how this can happen with restrictions, so much testing, hygiene awareness, how can cases grow to this extent that so many people are dying again. I don't get it at all how they have been taken by surprise by COVID yet again after having learned so much from March and April.

    Central Government washed their hands of it about 5 weeks.

    Left it up to the regions.

    The regions are not coping.

    Also the Prime Minister seems like a massive bellend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    I dont know how the OP arrived at those numbers and how correct or incorrect they are. It is true though that as we learn more and with case numbers going up the percentage of serious cases and deaths keeps going down and down and we still haven't seen anywhere near the full picture yet.
    He divided today's cases by the population and picked a lowball estimate for fatality rate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭Munsterman12


    The problem of house parties and people not wearing masks is an extremely easy problem to solve. Just fine them! I know thats scarey to think about but we do it for parking on double yellow lines!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    The problem of house parties and people not wearing masks is an extremely easy problem to solve. Just fine them! I know thats scarey to think about but we do it for parking on double yellow lines!

    Civil liberties blah blah blah, never think of the people who want to be able to go out and do basic stuff without becoming infected because of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,445 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    On level 3 for pubs and restaurants in Dublin from the independent. Personally I dont see what these establishments being open has to do with the case numbers currently, its been said time and time again they aren't the ones contributing to spread. But anyway,

    "Some concerns were raised at the meeting about the need for more clarity around the measures outlined in level three of the plan such as the suggest additional restrictions for pubs and restaurants.

    However, other members argued against the proposal saying it was too heavy handed."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭Blondini


    niallo27 wrote: »
    For a bit of perspective, today you had a 1 in 20000 chance of catching covid and probably 1 in 200 chance of dieing from it if you did. That's 1 in 4 million. If your less than 50 its probably 1 in 20 million chance of dieing from it. More of a chance of being killed by a pineapple falling off a tree.

    If you're going to post such sad nonsense, at least have the decency to make it readable.

    Kids these days...tsk..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Ficheall wrote: »
    For a bit of perspective, by your "logic", in July, your chances of catching covid at some point during the year were 1 in 1342, and currently your chances of catching covid at some point during the year are 1 in 54..

    How did you get your 1 in 54 chance please. We have 27000 cases so far if it continues like this, it will be 36k so that's 1 in 138 for the year. If 1 in 200 die that is 1 in about 28k chance of dieing from it. If your under 50 its about 1 in 140k.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,951 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    All those sacrifices have been well and truly pissed down the drain now

    No. They haven't . They worked at the time.
    That was then .
    This is a new phase and hopefully we will be able to get this under control with less severe restrictions now that we have some clue about this virus .
    Just wish our government would be a little more reliable , they don't inspire confidence at all .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Blondini wrote: »
    If you're going to post such sad nonsense, at least have the decency to make it readable.

    Kids these days...tsk..

    The great blondini, what do you think of this tightrope we are crossing.


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    Contact tracing seems to have been ok. The app just too sensitive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,951 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    A total of 106 people with suspected Covid-19 were being treated at hospitals around the country, including seven people at the Mercy University Hospital and one person at Cork University Hospital.

    Fourteen people with confirmed Covid-19 were being treated at critical care units around Ireland including one person who was being cared for at the Mercy University Hospital.

    Source Echo Live

    Yes it is rising everywhere now around the country .
    But only gathering pressure in Dublin in the last fortnight .
    Hopefully it will be squashed around the country before it hits the rates in Dublin .


  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Is it a given, we will move to level 4 and level 5 in the coming weeks, or is the thinking, that we should stay at level 3 for a couple of weeks, then move back to level 2?

    Is there any guidance on that , at the moment?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yeah and to those saying transmission can’t occur in schools...
    Or to those who said statistically they all probably brought it in.

    Hang on to the weasel word ‘may’ if you must.

    You were wrong unfortunately.
    Dr Henry said that cases in schools do not seem to be driving community transmission, adding that community transmission remains the greatest threat to schools and not the other way round.

    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,246 ✭✭✭MOR316


    So essentially, once they announce it tomorrow afternoon, from 12am on Saturday, Dublin will be in Level 3.

    Fair enough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    .
    Shout that louder for people in the back, who cannot comprehend that schools will not be closing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,951 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    I dont know how the OP arrived at those numbers and how correct or incorrect they are. It is true though that as we learn more and with case numbers going up the percentage of serious cases and deaths keeps going down and down and we still haven't seen anywhere near the full picture yet. It is nowhere near as dangerous as we thought at the start.

    No , it is . It is getting into the older age groups now and a lot , who , btw, are nowhere near their pension yet , are being admitted .

    9 percent healthcare workers infected , all ages . Two thirds of these are still suffering after effects even though they are " recovered" , from a survey recently published
    They were deemed recovered sooner than most in the the community because they were needed back at work !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,542 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    It amazes me the amount of people moaning about how tough life is with restrictions. First world problems for sure.
    It's time all these people learned to man up, live with restrictions and accept them.
    I haven't found it tough at all. I'm happy to protect myself and my family. Obviously there are things I miss but I can live without them.
    If we all stfu and do the right thing for a couple of months we won't have a problem and we can go back to something near normal.
    And hopefully we have a vaccine by February or March and we can all go back to doing what we want.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,951 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Boggles wrote: »
    Central Government washed their hands of it about 5 weeks.

    Left it up to the regions.

    The regions are not coping.

    Also the Prime Minister seems like a massive bellend.

    I thought that was MM you were talking about .
    Similarities are disturbing :/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Jake1 wrote: »
    Is it a given, we will move to level 4 and level 5 in the coming weeks, or is the thinking, that we should stay at level 3 for a couple of weeks, then move back to level 2?

    Is there any guidance on that , at the moment?

    Not a given at all. The intention of restrictions at each level is that they prevent moving to the next level. It could go either way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    eagle eye wrote: »
    It amazes me the amount of people moaning about how tough life is with restrictions. First world problems for sure.
    It's time all these people learned to man up, live with restrictions and accept them.
    I haven't found it tough at all. I'm happy to protect myself and my family. Obviously there are things I miss but I can live without them.
    If we all stfu and do the right thing for a couple of months we won't have a problem and we can go back to something near normal.
    And hopefully we have a vaccine by February or March and we can all go back to doing what we want.

    Have you been affected financially eagle, did you lose your job.


  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Not a given at all. The intention of restrictions at each level is that they prevent moving to the next level. It could go either way.

    ok, thank you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,991 ✭✭✭growleaves


    eagle eye wrote: »
    It amazes me the amount of people moaning about how tough life is with restrictions. First world problems for sure.
    It's time all these people learned to man up, live with restrictions and accept them.
    I haven't found it tough at all. I'm happy to protect myself and my family. Obviously there are things I miss but I can live without them.
    If we all stfu and do the right thing for a couple of months we won't have a problem and we can go back to something near normal.
    And hopefully we have a vaccine by February or March and we can all go back to doing what we want.

    You are so wrong. The Royal College of Psychiatrists in England are studying the ill effects of social distancing on health. It is a parallel health crisis, not a minor inconvenience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,497 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    On level 3 for pubs and restaurants in Dublin from the independent. Personally I dont see what these establishments being open has to do with the case numbers currently, its been said time and time again they aren't the ones contributing to spread. But anyway,

    Of course they are contributing to the spread.

    We don't know how much they are because our level of sophistication when it comes to tracking the virus is at best basic. But the idea that the only indoor space in the country where people are not required to wear masks is not causing community transmission is pretty farcical.

    They'll be the first thing to go in Dublin when it becomes apparent they acted too late and they have to bump it up to 4.5 or 3.7 with measures from 4 and 5.

    Also one thing I did notice was at Level 3, wet pubs get to stay open whilst Museums where you have to wear a mask and numbers are limited have to close.

    #culture


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,237 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    eagle eye wrote: »
    It amazes me the amount of people moaning about how tough life is with restrictions. First world problems for sure.
    It's time all these people learned to man up, live with restrictions and accept them.
    I haven't found it tough at all. I'm happy to protect myself and my family. Obviously there are things I miss but I can live without them.
    If we all stfu and do the right thing for a couple of months we won't have a problem and we can go back to something near normal.
    And hopefully we have a vaccine by February or March and we can all go back to doing what we want.
    I presume your business or employment didn't go down the swanny last March,What about people who have lost their livelihood and now face the possibility of defaulting on their mortgages? Are you going to tell them to man up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭manofwisdom


    Average amount of cases per day for each county over the last two weeks. (not counting this evenings reported cases)

    Dublin 109
    Kildare 9
    Limerick 8
    Louth 8
    Waterford 6
    Wicklow 5
    Cork 5
    Donegal 5
    Meath 4
    Galway 4
    Wexford 4
    Offaly 4
    Clare 3
    Westmeath 3
    Laois 3
    Tipperary 2
    Kilkenny 2
    Kerry 2
    Leitrim 2
    Mayo 2
    Longford 2
    Carlow 2
    Cavan 1
    Monaghan 1
    Roscommon 1
    Sligo 0.35


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭thegreengoblin


    Boggles wrote: »
    Of course they are contributing to the spread.

    We don't know how much they are because our level of sophistication when it comes to tracking the virus is at best basic. But the idea that the only indoor space in the country where people are not required to wear masks is not causing community transmission is pretty farcical.

    They'll be the first thing to go in Dublin when it becomes apparent they acted too late and they have to bump it up to 4.5 or 3.7 with measures from 4 and 5.

    Also one thing I did notice was at Level 3, wet pubs get to stay open whilst Museums where you have to wear a mask and numbers are limited have to close.

    #culture

    The idea that museums have to close is farcical when you consider how much time and effort has gone into keeping them safe. I've been to a couple since they reopened and they were great experiences.

    Same with underage sports. Matches expected to be cancelled from tomorrow, teams limited to non contact training... and all for what? Bloody joke.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    No. They haven't . They worked at the time.
    That was then .

    The health service is not ready for an increase in cases. That is shameful. We should have built capacity over the summer to be fully prepared for the winter. Hospitals should now be ready to take a few thousand patients and several hundred ICU patients without impacting otber services. They clearly are not.

    Totally wasted time.

    Flatten the curve was sold as a chance to get the health services ready. This didn't happen. Hence the panic now.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,439 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    I presume your business or employment didn't go down the swanny last March,What about people who have lost their livelihood and now face the possibility of defaulting on their mortgages? Are you going to tell them to man up?

    Naive question, but could not the government come to some arrangement with the banks so that mortgages are put on hold for those people who are out of work due to the pandemic?

    I mean, they do owe us, the banks.


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