Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

DangerScouse · 17-09-2020 06:24PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Ah yes, you're one of 'those' people.

Whatever you think of me makes not an iota of difference.

Sierra Oscar · 17-09-2020 06:25PM

Whatever about Ireland, the trend across Europe is really worrying.

There are now more weekly cases than there were back during the peak in March.

The number of weekly coronavirus cases has exceeded the infections reported when the pandemic first peaked in Europe in March, the World Health Organization has warned.

"We have a very serious situation unfolding before us," the organisation's Europe director said in a press conference on Thursday.

Hans Kluge added that September's figures should serve as a "wake-up call" for European governments, as the region's weekly tally reached 300,000 patients last week.

WHO warns of 'very serious situation' in Europe

spookwoman · 17-09-2020 06:25PM

kksaints wrote: »

I would have always thought that the factory is actually located in Kilkenny but I assume the people who work there live in Waterford.

Pretty sure they use the home address of the infected and thats linked to the county number

ACitizenErased · 17-09-2020 06:26PM

DangerScouse wrote: »

Whatever you think of me makes not an iota of difference.

That's great because I'm not thinking much

niallo27 · 17-09-2020 06:26PM

For a bit of perspective, today you had a 1 in 20000 chance of catching covid and probably 1 in 200 chance of dieing from it if you did. That's 1 in 4 million. If your less than 50 its probably 1 in 20 million chance of dieing from it. More of a chance of being killed by a pineapple falling off a tree.

Eod100 · 17-09-2020 06:27PM

owlbethere wrote: »

What was the point in the lockdown back in March? Cases are rising now and the government will let the covid infection flow and rise and point to a 5 point plan that they may or may not implement.

Are you asking what the point of restrictions which greatly reduced case numbers is because the easing of restrictions has led to rising case numbers? Seriously?

DangerScouse · 17-09-2020 06:28PM

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Whatever about Ireland, the trend across Europe is really worrying.

There are now more weekly cases than there were back during the peak in March.

WHO warns of 'very serious situation' in Europe

And yet we have the boss of Ryanair moaning about the handling of the situation by our government.

hmmm · 17-09-2020 06:28PM

We're seeing waves of virus, this was predicted as one of the scenarios. The government, like most countries, has tried to reopen stuff and hoped it could keep the rise in cases manageable, but that hasn't worked anywhere really. That's unfortunate, but we're dealing with an unpredictable virus.

When we get through this wave, we can probably predict another one in Jan/Feb or similar, and another one perhaps in mid 2021. At that stage hopefully we should be vaccinating people and the waves will be getting smaller and more manageable.

Just a prediction.

CalamariFritti · 17-09-2020 06:28PM

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

The head of the National Virus Reference Laboratory dealt with that angle comprehensively, if you're interested.

https://twitter.com/CillianDeGascun/status/1305250887246458880

He explained it very well I thought, thanks for the link.

Its cool stuff really. The fact we have such things is amazing enough to someone like me.

But to be fair he is not exactly coming out saying there are no problems. He says its the current gold standard and its very good but its complicated stuff and the way it works means it has limitations. I wouldnt go as far as doubting the results though. Cool stuff.

DangerScouse · 17-09-2020 06:28PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

That's great because I'm not thinking much

Judging my your posts i think we all get that.

niallo27 · 17-09-2020 06:29PM

DangerScouse wrote: »

The point was to save lives.

No the point was to flatten the curve and allow our health service to ramp up as when we re opened cases numbers would rise.

Funsterdelux · 17-09-2020 06:29PM

niallo27 wrote: »

For a bit of perspective, today you had a 1 in 20000 chance of catching covid and probably 1 in 200 chance of dieing from it if you did. That's 1 in 4 million. If your less than 50 its probably 1 in 20 million chance of dieing from it. More of a chance of being killed by a pineapple falling off a tree.

Will you do my lotto numbers?

hmmm · 17-09-2020 06:29PM

niallo27 wrote: »

For a bit of perspective, today you had a 1 in 20000 chance of catching covid and probably 1 in 200 chance of dieing from it if you did. That's 1 in 4 million. If your less than 50 its probably 1 in 20 million chance of dieing from it. More of a chance of being killed by a pineapple falling off a tree.

Stupid statistics like this don't convince anyone that this is trivial. We all know that death rates are low when the virus is suppressed, and they will shoot up if we let the virus run rampant.

PowerToWait · 17-09-2020 06:30PM

niallo27 wrote: »

For a bit of perspective, today you had a 1 in 20000 chance of catching covid and probably 1 in 200 chance of dieing from it if you did. That's 1 in 4 million. If your less than 50 its probably 1 in 20 million chance of dieing from it. More of a chance of being killed by a pineapple falling off a tree.

This would be very comforting, if I was an absolute fcuking moron with no capacity for analysis and extrapolation.

ACitizenErased · 17-09-2020 06:30PM

DangerScouse wrote: »

Judging my your posts i think we all get that.

:pac::pac::pac::pac:

bodhrandude · 17-09-2020 06:30PM

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Whatever about Ireland, the trend across Europe is really worrying.

There are now more weekly cases than there were back during the peak in March.

WHO warns of 'very serious situation' in Europe

Hans Kluge is a very funny name indeed.

niallo27 · 17-09-2020 06:31PM

PowerToWait wrote: »

This would be very comforting, if I was an absolute fcuking moron with no capacity for analysis and extrapolation.

So are you comforted or not, I'm not sure.

SleetAndSnow · 17-09-2020 06:32PM

niallo27 wrote: »

For a bit of perspective, today you had a 1 in 20000 chance of catching covid and probably 1 in 200 chance of dieing from it if you did. That's 1 in 4 million. If your less than 50 its probably 1 in 20 million chance of dieing from it. More of a chance of being killed by a pineapple falling off a tree.

The virus does more then just kill people, it has potentially long term effects.

bb1234567 · 17-09-2020 06:32PM

niallo27 wrote: »

For a bit of perspective, today you had a 1 in 20000 chance of catching covid and probably 1 in 200 chance of dieing from it if you did. That's 1 in 4 million. If your less than 50 its probably 1 in 20 million chance of dieing from it. More of a chance of being killed by a pineapple falling off a tree.

In fairness you'd 'statistics' like this being done in March when there weren't many cases either to try and reassure peoople but what good did that do really, what happened still happened, obviously the risk is low when there isn't extremely widespread community transmission. So making some kind of point like this based on one day's cases is just meaningless

Alf Veedersane · 17-09-2020 06:32PM

niallo27 wrote: »

No the point was to flatten the curve and allow our health service to ramp up as when we re opened cases numbers would rise.

Which helps to save lives. Insufficient capacity in the hospitals would cost lives so ensuring the capacity is there saves lives

17-09-2020 06:32PM

niallo27 wrote: »

For a bit of perspective, today you had a 1 in 20000 chance of catching covid and probably 1 in 200 chance of dieing from it if you did. That's 1 in 4 million. If your less than 50 its probably 1 in 20 million chance of dieing from it. More of a chance of being killed by a pineapple falling off a tree.

Btw pineapples are air plants, don't grow on trees in Ireland or elsewhere

niallo27 · 17-09-2020 06:33PM

hmmm wrote: »

Stupid statistics like this don't convince anyone that this is trivial. We all know that death rates are low when the virus is suppressed, and they will shoot up if we let the virus run rampant.

Its not stupid, people are acting like the virus is already out of control and these numbers are crazy high and no coming back from them.

CiarraiManc · 17-09-2020 06:33PM

DangerScouse wrote: »

The point was to save lives.

All those sacrifices have been well and truly pissed down the drain now

niallo27 · 17-09-2020 06:33PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Btw pineapples are air plants, don't grow on trees in Ireland or elsewhere

Exactky.

ACitizenErased · 17-09-2020 06:33PM

CiarraiManc wrote: »

All those sacrifices have been well and truly pissed down the drain now

You are on fire today

bb1234567 · 17-09-2020 06:34PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Its not stupid, people are acting like the virus is already out of control and these numbers are crazy high and no coming back from them.

I don't think anyone is saying that, but obviously the current numbers a big cause for concern. A few weeks ago when Spain was the first country in Europe to report increased cases in Europe and you'd exact same thing people saying it was weakened , 'but there's no deaths' etc and now over 400 deaths in the last 48 hours and hundreds of ICU admissions in the last few days in Spain. You can keep saying it's not an issue until it is an issue, it doesn't help anything however

Benimar · 17-09-2020 06:35PM

kksaints wrote: »

I would have always thought that the factory is actually located in Kilkenny but I assume the people who work there live in Waterford.

The postal address is Waterford and the vast majority of staff would be living in Waterford. Plant is only 5k from Waterford City Centre.

JP Liz V1 · 17-09-2020 06:37PM

A total of 106 people with suspected Covid-19 were being treated at hospitals around the country, including seven people at the Mercy University Hospital and one person at Cork University Hospital.

Fourteen people with confirmed Covid-19 were being treated at critical care units around Ireland including one person who was being cared for at the Mercy University Hospital.

Source Echo Live

Jim_Hodge · 17-09-2020 06:38PM

CiarraiManc wrote: »

All those sacrifices have been well and truly pissed down the drain now

It's not too late at all. Everything we have done to date was to keep the case numbers manageable and we have done that. We just need to ensure it doesn't run out of control .

CalamariFritti · 17-09-2020 06:40PM

hmmm wrote: »

Stupid statistics like this don't convince anyone that this is trivial. We all know that death rates are low when the virus is suppressed, and they will shoot up if we let the virus run rampant.

I dont know how the OP arrived at those numbers and how correct or incorrect they are. It is true though that as we learn more and with case numbers going up the percentage of serious cases and deaths keeps going down and down and we still haven't seen anywhere near the full picture yet. It is nowhere near as dangerous as we thought at the start.

Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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