Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

Eod100 · 17-09-2020 04:22PM

Le Bruise wrote: »

Yea fingers crossed. Have a table booked to watch the rugby in a foodie pub, but would have to be level 4 before that would be kibosh-ed I think!

It's hard to know because the level 2 for Dublin isn't same as level 2 for rest of country so presume same for level 3. It's hard to know exact set of measures but with level 3 in Dublin wouldn't be majorly surprised if all food pubs are shut

Ger Roe · 17-09-2020 04:23PM

rob316 wrote: »

There isn't a whole pile of difference between level 2 and 3, it starts to get serious after that.

Like the previous road map... this one will be torn up and discarded when required. The last one didn't stick to all of the pre-stated conditions or timelines. This one will be no different.

When needs must. it will be binned - in light of new evidence, or best practice or in response to urgent developments etc.

wadacrack · 17-09-2020 04:24PM

I probably shouldn't post this, some likely to believe this might work.

https://twitter.com/standardnews/status/1306614656790863873

seamus · 17-09-2020 04:24PM

harr wrote: »

Probably alright with traveling In .. but hotel might not honour the booking . I know with kildare lockdown some hotels cancelled bookings for those traveling from kildare.

In level 3 hotels are still permitted to stay open. They won't be policing the origin of their guests.

It's only at level 4 that they're not permitted to allow non-essential guests, but tbh I expect most hotels will honour any bookings if it comes to that.

Akabusi · 17-09-2020 04:26PM

Just thinking how much more credibility the Government could have had if they'd had just come out on Monday and put Dublin at level 3. I used to give out that they were too reactionary in relation to this virus, they can't even manage that at the moment.

polesheep · 17-09-2020 04:27PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Me and my family are completely unpanicked, including my father who’s a healthcare worker. Just an observation that there does seem to be more panic around in general.

I wasn't suggesting that you are. Apologies if it came across as such. I think myself that the chicken littles are getting more panicked, partly because they fear that they won't get another lockdown.

mollser · 17-09-2020 04:32PM

They've made a bolli$ of this 5 level thing, it's too prescriptive and ties their own hands unneccessarily.

For example - if house gatherings are the issue, ban all house gatherings for 3 weeks. If gyms become an issue, close all gyms. Why, in order to do these, you then have to stop my 6 yo daughter playing hockey, is an utter nonsense. Or my dad watching AIL rugby outside from the sidelines.

I'm not one to criticise generally and have a positive spin mostly, but this approach is nuts.

Busi_Girl08 · 17-09-2020 04:34PM

Akabusi wrote: »

Just thinking how much more credibility the Government could have had if they'd had just come out on Monday and put Dublin at level 3. I used to give out that they were too reactionary in relation to this virus, they can't even manage that at the moment.

It think it would have reflected much better on them, because it would show that they stand behind the roadmap and individual levels.

17-09-2020 04:40PM

Ger Roe wrote: »

Like the previous road map... this one will be torn up and discarded when required. The last one didn't stick to all of the pre-stated conditions or timelines. This one will be no different.

When needs must. it will be binned - in light of new evidence, or best practice or in response to urgent developments etc.

Agreed it looks out of date as is. If this had been published in July August it might have made some sense.

drunkmonkey · 17-09-2020 04:44PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

at 5% case growth per day we could go from 200 cases per day to about 3,000 cases per day in less than 8 weeks.

I'm not saying that's going to happen, but it's our current trajectory

We could have 3000 if we tested 150,000 people tomorrow, only way were getting to 3000 cases a day is with a massive ramp in testing. If we get to 3000 a day it's over, we've done a sweden on it.

Thierry12 · 17-09-2020 04:49PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

We could have 3000 if we tested 150,000 people tomorrow, only way were getting to 3000 cases a day is with a massive ramp in testing. If we get to 3000 a day it's over, we've done a sweden on it.

That's a great point

3000 a day is impossible

We are not getting to 25% test prevalence

We have been at 0.5% to 1.5% for months

Even 2.5% prevalence is a way off

MrJoeSoap · 17-09-2020 04:51PM

Akabusi wrote: »

Just thinking how much more credibility the Government could have had if they'd had just come out on Monday and put Dublin at level 3. I used to give out that they were too reactionary in relation to this virus, they can't even manage that at the moment.

If they'd put Dublin at Level 3 then the "wet" pubs would have had to open. It's such a shambles!

fr336 · 17-09-2020 04:52PM

Covid has made it clear how many narcissists are out there. People with symptoms going to stylists and gyms etc and spreading this thing when they could spend two whole weeks of their exciting lives self isolating. They put their dull me me me lives ahead of people actually living or dying or going through months of hell. And even if you dont care about deaths, these people are the types prolonging the economic and social chaos. Good people!

stephenjmcd · 17-09-2020 04:52PM

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

If they'd put Dublin at Level 3 then the "wet" pubs would have had to open. It's such a shambles!

Ah but Leo says they could open in a few weeks

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1306620223257227264?s=19

ixoy · 17-09-2020 04:53PM

Wondering if they held off on putting Dublin at Level 3/3.5 while they ironed out some of the details for Level 3. For example in restaurants it says indoor eating is allowed but there'd be additional measures - maybe now allowing time to work out what on earth that means (restaurants being, for me, my outlet and it's just the husband and I going so we're not even mixing households).

political analyst · 17-09-2020 04:53PM

If everyone who has been in contact with someone who has been diagnosed with Covid has taken all recommended precautions then why would it be necessary for that person to inform his or her GP of contact with those people. In that case, contact-tracing causes unnecessary anxiety.

Scenario: If Person A, who had been diagnosed, informs the GP of being in contact with Person B, and it's just A's word against B's, what if B denies having contact with A?

manniot2 · 17-09-2020 04:57PM

why is nobody asking any questions about the pcr cycles being used in Ireland. we are hunting for noninfectious cases and making massive economic and social decisions based on flawed data.

Gadgetman496 · 17-09-2020 05:00PM

So SD was not negative, he was no covid detected.

Surely that could mean he is asymptomatic?

Eod100 · 17-09-2020 05:01PM

political analyst wrote: »

If everyone who has been in contact with someone who has been diagnosed with Covid has taken all recommended precautions then why would it be necessary for that person to inform his or her GP of contact with those people. In that case, contact-tracing causes unnecessary anxiety.

Scenario: If Person A, who had been diagnosed, informs the GP of being in contact with Person B, and it's just A's word against B's, what if B denies having contact with A?

Depends on the individual circumstances I guess. Close contacts will be contacted. Casual contacts may be also in certain instances. Maybe people provide details in order to prevent those people from passing it on to others even if risk is low?

More info on casual contacts here: https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/close-contact-and-casual-contact.html

NegativeCreep · 17-09-2020 05:02PM

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

So SD was not negative, he was no covid detected.

Surely that could mean he is asymptomatic?

Sure we could all have it so

rooney30 · 17-09-2020 05:02PM

On the Hopkins university worldometer site the Swedish daily covid numbers are no longer being recorded Does anyone know the reason for this.?

Eod100 · 17-09-2020 05:03PM

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

So SD was not negative, he was no covid detected.

Surely that could mean he is asymptomatic?

No asymptomatic would be testing positive without symptoms

MOR316 · 17-09-2020 05:07PM

ixoy wrote: »

Wondering if they held off on putting Dublin at Level 3/3.5 while they ironed out some of the details for Level 3. For example in restaurants it says indoor eating is allowed but there'd be additional measures - maybe now allowing time to work out what on earth that means (restaurants being, for me, my outlet and it's just the husband and I going so we're not even mixing households).

Speculating but, the rule of 1hr and 45mins is only applied to establishments that CAN'T provide social distancing of 2 metres. Can stay as long as you want in places that can.

So, with that in mind, maybe it would be 1hr 45 mins for all?

I don't know. This world doesn't make sense to me anymore tbh

ACitizenErased · 17-09-2020 05:14PM

Fergal Bowers reporting NPHET has recommended level 3 for Dublin now with additional measures. No change for any other county.

Eod100 · 17-09-2020 05:14PM

RTE reporting that NPHET have recommended Dublin going into Level 3.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0917/1165665-covid-19-dublin/

ACitizenErased · 17-09-2020 05:15PM

No change to third level in Dublin by the looks of it, despite NPHET recommendation

Eod100 · 17-09-2020 05:16PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

No change to third level in Dublin by the looks of it, despite NPHET recommendation

Won't Cabinet only consider it tomorrow though?

ACitizenErased · 17-09-2020 05:18PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Won't Cabinet only consider it tomorrow though?

Based on what Harris is saying they won’t be changing anything, given most is online anyway

SPDUB · 17-09-2020 05:18PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Fergal Bowers reporting NPHET has recommended level 3 for Dublin now with additional measures. No change for any other county.

Fergal was slow tonight , it was on Radio 1 at 5pm

DangerScouse · 17-09-2020 05:19PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Fergal Bowers reporting NPHET has recommended level 3 for Dublin now with additional measures. No change for any other county.

Putting it up to the government and Martins slow weak leadership

Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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