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Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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  • #4982
    DangerScouse
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 466 ✭✭DangerScouse


    It's obvious now the lobby groupings are running the show and not the government. This can only end badly for the average Joe/Jane as putting profits before health will result in exponential growth of the virus leading up to winter.


  • #4983
    theballz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭theballz


    /\/ollog wrote: »
    You can do push-ups are home and jog on roads.

    People seem to be pulling the mental health excuse more lately.

    It's not an excuse. Whats your issue?


  • #4984
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Death projections total by end of 2020 per worldometer. 1982 total. Less than 200 deaths between now and year end. Not all that bad if true.


  • #4985
    SPDUB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭SPDUB


    Boggles wrote: »
    Like we will be allowed.

    Brown Thomas opened their Christmas Shop yesterday.

    Yeah, 16th of September.

    Dealz had some Xmas stuff available on September 15th and God knows how long before that


  • #4986
    DangerScouse
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 466 ✭✭DangerScouse


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I honestly cannot believe someone on here just suggested forgetting about Christmas.....

    They didn't though did they. They said forget about your usual Xmas, but of course you already know this.


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  • #4987
    CiarraiManc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 204 ✭✭CiarraiManc


    DangerScouse wrote: »
    People need to forget about their usual Xmas this year. It's best they prepare for that reality now instead of being in some sort of denial and having their mental health suffer. Hopefully next year we get a vaccine and they can enjoy Xmas again.

    people can forget about their Christmas piss up one year won't bloody kill them


  • #4988
    Drumpot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    theballz wrote: »
    I live in dublin in an apartment on my own.

    I struggled during lockdown and the only thing that got me out of that funk was going to the gym. I really hope they dont close our gyms, exercise is critical for peoples wellbeing and mental health.

    I agree but you need to do what I am doing and start diversifying your workouts. Bike, outside runs, dip in the sea etc.

    My mum said "I cant handle another lockdown" but I suggested she plans as if there will be one and at least she will be prepared. People are making themselves victims of something they can actually do things about. We actually have a warning that things may get worse again, so what do you do ? Hope that it doesn't happen and be devastated when it does or prepare for it and see what changes you can make or things you can do that may reduce the pain?

    Ive been saying for months, stop putting all your hope in a vaccine and plan as if this will be around for years. It doesnt mean it will be terrible for years, it means you are prepared for blips in the road as we try to manage this.

    Just feels like alot of people are setting themselves up for big falls by constantly looking for positive news or something that suggests things wont be too bad. You can objectively do a reasonable risk assessment, work out what a probable worse case scenario will be for you (most likely not as bad as you think) and take action now to mitigate the physical, financial and emotional toll this pandemic might take on you or your family.

    I have been trying to get my house organised for a relatively tough winter. Mentally I am prepared for a quiet Christmas and am looking at ways to try and reduce the impact on the children (eg PS5). I think me and my wife just being mentally ok with the long haul suffering makes it easier on the children. We act as if its normal and just part of life and they are less stressed as a result.

    People need to start taking control of what they can control and accepting that there are elements of this we are just going to have to suck up.


  • #4989
    US2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    https://twitter.com/_BenFinnegan/status/1306522863982333952?s=19


  • #4990
    DangerScouse
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 466 ✭✭DangerScouse


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Nah

    I’ll be doing what I feel like doing at Xmas regardless of what level we are at on the “5” point plan.

    Others can hide under the bed if they feel it’s appropriate.

    You'll do what you like even if against the restrictions laid down :eek:


  • #4991
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    CiarraiManc wrote: »
    people can forget about their Christmas piss up one year won't bloody kill them

    You must have a riproaring christmas. Mine involves sitting around and watching movies with the family to be honest....


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  • #4992
    Nollog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,709 ✭✭✭Nollog


    theballz wrote: »
    It's not an excuse. Whats your issue?

    My mental health is suffering hearing/reading people talk about how their mental health is suffering from the restrictions.


  • #4993
    DangerScouse
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 466 ✭✭DangerScouse


    CiarraiManc wrote: »
    people can forget about their Christmas piss up one year won't bloody kill them

    They won't though that's the problem. Just look at some of the posts here.

    Same people more than likely clapping for the HSE few months back. :rolleyes:


  • #4994
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,188 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    US2 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/_BenFinnegan/status/1306522863982333952?s=19

    I shouldn't be shocked but the cheek of this. ''Wah you printed a story we didn't like''. Time for them to grow up


  • #4995
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    US2 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/_BenFinnegan/status/1306522863982333952?s=19

    What’s the story with the censorship? Remember a presser a few weeks back the PR woman was tryna stop golfgate questions too.


  • #4996
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Why are they sticking to “it doesn’t spread in classes?” We are not even two weeks back fully.

    That’s four schools with multiple infections in class or school.

    This is madness.

    https://twitter.com/albertoangelo17/status/1306313631341203456?s=21


  • #4997
    Thierry12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Thierry12


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Estimated IFR is ~0.5%. Five times lower than our CFR.

    CFR seems to be trending at 0.20% now

    https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/covid-1914-dayepidemiologyreports/COVID-19_14_day_epidemiology_report_20200915_Website.pdf

    2524 cases and only 3 went to the ICU

    Even if we get to 1000 cases a day, only 1 will need to go to the ICU daily, reading that


  • #4998
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    /\/ollog wrote: »
    So we've saved around 4000 lives the past 3 months ?
    Maybe we should do this forever.

    You have 3 months to register a death last three months should be looked at with caution. Important point is only April had excess deaths.


  • #4999
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Thierry12 wrote: »
    CFR seems to be trending at 0.20% now

    https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/covid-1914-dayepidemiologyreports/COVID-19_14_day_epidemiology_report_20200915_Website.pdf

    2524 cases and only 3 went to the ICU

    Even if we get to 1000 cases a day, only 1 will need to go to the ICU daily, reading that

    Our CFR is 5.7%. IFR is estimated to be 0.5%, 10 times lower.


  • #5000
    Sanjuro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    /\/ollog wrote: »
    You can do push-ups are home and jog on roads.

    People seem to be pulling the mental health excuse more lately.

    I've seen some idiotic comments on many boards over the last six months. But none as utterly **** as this one.


  • #5001
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    CiarraiManc wrote: »
    people can forget about their Christmas piss up one year won't bloody kill them

    Exactly. How many people get colds every Christmas?

    Nobody wants covid as a Christmas gift.


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  • #5002
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    Ah cheers I get you, I've totally been reading that page wrong!

    You are one of many. It was deliberately designed to be misinterpreted, while still stating the facts. Very underhand.


  • #5003
    SPDUB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭SPDUB


    US2 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/_BenFinnegan/status/1306522863982333952?s=19

    Can anyone explain to me why he is linking to another journalist story and not his .
    I presume it's a similar story to that journalist so why doesn't he link to his version.


  • #5004
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Looks like there’s been a discharge from ICU this morning, hospital numbers stable so far with 3 in and 3 out


  • #5005
    Thierry12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Thierry12


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Our CFR is 5.7%. IFR is estimated to be 0.5%, 10 times lower.

    That report is saying different


  • #5006
    lucernarian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,236 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    I've never seen a politican to handle the media as well. I wonder what he makes of this clown show, he was on a completely different wavelength to Government, the minute he didn't follow the party line he was cancelled like everyone else.
    We opened up foreign travel not long after him speaking out about it and subsequent leaving, we brought in masks as we thought it would even out the problem from travel.
    Now we've next to no Travel related cases, seems odd Tony could have been so wrong.
    Cherrypicking how the numbers work, which only show the nature of each immediate mode of transmission. The virus doesn't arise out of the ground, it was snuffed out here with practically no spread taking place, and now it's re-emerged in the community. The reality is that all cases ultimately come from travel, or are you thinking it's been manufactured in Ireland all along?

    The situation with masks was always about supply, and not having much info on how well cloth masks would work early on. But unlike measures involving travel that's clear and easy to enforce, many people's idea of wearing a mask is like some sort of chin guard over the last couple of months.

    It's pretty disingenuous.


  • #5007
    Nollog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,709 ✭✭✭Nollog


    Sanjuro wrote: »
    I've seen some idiotic comments on many boards over the last six months. But none as utterly **** as this one.

    Exercise must be done in a gym. Got it.

    I've been doing push-ups and sit-ups daily, all at home. Anecdotal evidence I know, feel free to disregard.


  • #5008
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Yeah nothing to do with that excuse of a government. They have been completely supportive of the advice given to them while simultaneously throwing NPHET under the bus and inserting layers of bureaucracy to distance themselves from any responsibility or anything the lobby groups won't like.


    every time they do make a decision theres another fifty posts from lunatics here about "tyranny"

    the idea, again, that you can manage an emergent, high risk and complex situation like this in any of the ways any of the massively contradictory posts on here suggest and keep anything like a majority of people happy (who the **** could be happy about any of this?) is such transparent nonsense

    but im consistently shocked by the level of immaturity and perspective people are
    proud to exhibit on the whole thing.

    toys out of prams isnt in it.

    makes the early days where it felt like everyone was pulling together a fond bloody memory tbh


  • #5009
    lucernarian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,236 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Our CFR is 5.7%. IFR is estimated to be 0.5%, 10 times lower.
    The Irish one is a fairly useless statistic, given many thousands of cases were probably missed in the spring while we wasted time testing obvious cases while healthcare professionals weren't even prioritised at one point.


  • #5010
    the corpo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭the corpo


    Deleted User wrote: »
    For what it's worth I'm I (alive) having coffee in Dundrum SC and just observing a couple of clusters of well-spoken women, in late 30/early 40s speaking together very closely, mother's' morning coffee meetings. They don't appear to have any awareness of the concept of physical distancing. I'm wondering if this is one of the significant ways the virus is spreading household to household, as I'm seeing mothers gather in little groups everywhere after leaving their kiddies off to school.

    This is something that's annoyed me from the get go, in any cafe or restaurant I've gone into. For all the good intentions of staff wearing masks, tables being spaced apart, people keeping distance going in etc., the people at the actual tables are almost always elbow to elbow, completely defeating the purpose of SD. I'm only sitting down at a table inside a restaurant when it's members of my household, otherwise take it outside.


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  • #5011
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Thierry12 wrote: »
    That report is saying different

    CFR = number of deaths / number of confirmed cases

    = 1784 / 31192 = 5.7%


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