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Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP
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Irish Steve wrote: »Some of the attitudes here are laughable, or they would be if they were no so absurd, and that's relating to some posters here and to some of the more laughable political contributions that are coming out of the woodwork.
Melbourne is almost 5 times larger than Dublin, the population there is near enough the same as the entire Island here, and the lockdown they have there at present has been eased a little, but for a number of weeks, there was an almost total curfew between 20:00 and 05:00, with very few exception, only one person per day is allowed out for essential shopping, and most other places are completely closed, including bars etc, and they have been operating with a 5Km limit on movement, initially for 1 hour per day, now increased to 2 hours per day, and that can be split into 2 trips out.
if you want to see how tight it's been, have a look
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/how-draconian-are-melbourne-s-coronavirus-lockdown-measures-1.5105833
They are starting to very slowly reduce the lock down now, as the cases are starting to reduce, and their figures are remarkably similar to Ireland's figures for Dublin, the difference is that their peak happened in July, we're only ramping up towards a new peak here at the moment, so we're up to 6 weeks behind them, and the relevant leadership here is dithering, ducking and weaving in all directions, and clearly nowhere near on top of what's happening on the ground, despite the clear warnings they are being given by the medical guidance.
from another site
https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/averages-easing-restrictions-covid-19
Metropolitan Melbourne 694 total cases over the last 14 days, with a case number of 49.6 per 100,000.
There are 1,040 cases currently active in Victoria. 18,079 people have recovered.
118 people are in hospital. This includes 11 patients in intensive care.
IF needed, Victoria State has a capacity of 695 intensive care beds and the capacity to rapidly expand that number if cases surge.
ICU bed capacity in Ireland increased by 39 per cent from 255 at baseline to 354 beds during the pandemic peak, according to the National Office of Clinical Audit.
On that basis, and given that the Irish system was close to breaking during the first wave, I find it worrying that the relevant leaders seem paralysed by indecision when it's become clear that the numbers are only going in one (wrong) direction.
They are seeing the figures decrease after the peak of around 700 cases per day in mid July.
Without wishing to be overly negative, anyone here that thinks we're not at risk of significant problems here, based on the figures that are being reported on a daily basis is living in a very delusional position.
Melbourne has seen close on 19000 cases, and 729 deaths.
Many of the figures being reported are so similar to what's happening here, it's scary, and they have been in severe lock down for nearly 6 weeks.
Also very interesting is the figures that are being posted to the public domain on a daily basis, where the number of tests and active cases by area are being posted, so to put that in local terms, they are giving result for areas, so you can see how many cases are happening in the equivalent of Dun Laoghaire, or Sandymount, or Clontarf, or Malahide, or where ever, and they are also giving specific geographic details of where outbreaks are occurring, by location, or company name.
Looks to me like we need to learn very rapidly from what they have done and are doing in Melbourne, and get similar reporting going here, as only when people can see which specific areas or locations are the hot spots will people then (hopefully) start to respond to that information in ways that will help to contain this pandemic.
Somebody show me where I am reading it wrong, from what I am seeing, we're in trouble, we just haven't taken it on board yet.
Perfect post .
Also this is why I don't understand people wanting to come to Dublin at the moment or that to be honest it is safe to do so .
Their part of the country does not have the community transmission and rates of infection as parts of Dublin, but hey they still want to come up and mix with the probably infected locals , and then bring it all back home with them , and this is allowed ?
Our government are so inept and worried about their images with the voters that they are paralysed, unable to stop inward or outward travel either within the country or out of it , except for essential purposes.
Unable to break up gangs of drinking and socialising teens or idiots having house parties, but now the cases are rising and they wring their hands and plead with people to obey some very confusing and badly phrased guidelines , while their own ministers and tds either don't know what they should be doing or saying , or don't care .
Its pathetic .
It's been flagged over and over again since the summer .
We are heading for major numbers and a healthcare crisis this November and December .
Sorry for the rant but fed up of this government, or lack of it .
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Goldengirl wrote: »Perfect post .
Also this is why I don't understand people wanting to come to Dublin at the moment or that to be honest it is safe to do so .
Their part of the country does not have the community transmission and rates of infection as parts of Dublin, but hey they still want to come up and mix with the probably infected locals , and then bring it all back home with them , and this is allowed ?
Our government are so inept and worried about their images with the voters that they are paralysed, unable to stop inward or outward travel either within the country or out of it , except for essential purposes.
Unable to break up gangs of drinking and socialising teens or idiots having house parties, but now the cases are rising and they wring their hands and plead with people to obey some very confusing and badly phrased guidelines , while their own ministers and tds either don't know what they should be doing or saying , or don't care .
Its pathetic .
It's been flagged over and over again since the summer .
We are heading for major numbers and a healthcare crisis this November and December .
Sorry for the rant but fed up of this government, or lack of it .
No such problem in Sweden or Belarus0 -
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No they are not it is only dangerous for elderly and vulnerable people. Protect the elderly and vulnerable and let the rest of us get on with it.
If young and healthy people get it, it’s dangerous as they will spread it and need medical treatment possibly, more money the state cannot afford.
Protect, so lock everybody away, who is elderly or vulnerable with say a preexisting condition? ‘Getting on with it’ as you so eloquently put it puts lives, the economy and the health of the nation further at risk too...
Adhere to restrictions, be the fück sensible, selfless and jobs a good one.
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If young and healthy people get it, it’s dangerous as they will spread it and need medical treatment possibly, more money the state cannot afford.
Protect, so lock everybody away, who is elderly or vulnerable with say a preexisting condition? ‘Getting on with it’ as you so eloquently put it puts lives, the economy and the health of the nation further at risk too...
Adhere to restrictions, be the fück sensible, selfless and jobs a good one.
And don't forget you'll also have to lock away everyone who lives with these people or who unavoidably interacts with them like carers, doctors, nurses etc.0 -
If young and healthy people get it, it’s dangerous as they will spread it and need medical treatment possibly, more money the state cannot afford.
Protect, so lock everybody away, who is elderly or vulnerable with say a preexisting condition? ‘Getting on with it’ as you so eloquently put it puts lives, the economy and the health of the nation further at risk too...
Adhere to restrictions, be the fück sensible, selfless and jobs a good one.
Just a troll , don't feed him Strumms0 -
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Mercy hospital in Cork had four covid admissions in the last 24 hours.
14th September
15th September
Wow so cases are rising down the country .
I am not happy to see that , but there seems to be such an anti Dublin bias lately , it is like every place else is doing it right and we are failing .0 -
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