Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

15-09-2020 07:29PM

snowgal wrote: »

See this is the mad confusion we are getting from changes here there and everywhere. This is 3rd reply to initial post and all slightly different responses. Not getting at any posters btw but just goes to show the different interpretations we all have! Ie confused.com

Don’t take my word for it

https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/managing-coronavirus-at-home/if-you-live-with-someone-who-has-coronavirus.html

- Restricted movements
Last updated: 14 September 2020 at 9.43am

You are advised to restrict your movements for 14 days if you:

are a close contact of a confirmed case of coronavirus
live with someone who has symptoms of coronavirus, but you feel well
arrive into Ireland from a country that is not on the COVID-19 green list - this list is reviewed regularly based on advice from officials including public health experts and will be updated if needed

If you are a close contact of a confirmed case you have to restrict your movements for 14 days even if your test comes back negative. This is because it can take up to 14 days for the virus to show up in your system after you have been exposed to it.

drunkmonkey · 15-09-2020 07:29PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Schools go back, the number of new cases rise. It was to be expected.

They've been rising since mandatory masks were introduced in retail, people back hanging around in shops, not cleaning their hands and not keeping their distance.
It's not schools/creches.

political analyst · 15-09-2020 07:31PM

With all the measures being taken - social distancing, mandatory face-covering, provision of hand sanitiser - why are so many people in Dublin still being infected with the virus?

Van.Bosch · 15-09-2020 07:31PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

They've been rising since mandatory masks were introduced in retail, people back hanging around in shops, not cleaning their hands and not keeping their distance.
It's not schools/creches.

Even if it is schools what’s the alternative?

delly · 15-09-2020 07:31PM

Funny how there is a suspected case in the Dail and the whole place goes into knee jerk lockdown, the exact thing they said would not be done with schools, oh the double standards are beyond funny. MM then rows in with the Dail continuing with junior ministers, as they would be hammered for it otherwise.

Goldengirl · 15-09-2020 07:32PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

There's very little growth if any in hospitals outside of Dublin (42 of 64 last night in Dublin), so I very much doubt that.

I am talking about countrywide .

bb1234567 · 15-09-2020 07:33PM

political analyst wrote: »

With all the measures being taken - social distancing, mandatory face-covering, provision of hand sanitiser - why are so many people in Dublin still being infected with the virus?

Because people are relaxing when socialising in groups. These measures are only really in place in large gatherings with strangers

the corpo · 15-09-2020 07:34PM

Rang the GP for my 10 year old daughter at 9am this morning, and was told they're so busy call back wouldn't be til the afternoon. Got call about 3pm, but in fairness she was referred and we had an appointment within 20 minutes.
Was at the Aviva at 6pm, and my god the queues were huge (a friend got tested at Vincents yesterday, said there were only two or three cars). Army administering the whole thing, and they did a fantastic job. Despite the queue we were through in 35 minutes.

Despite what I'd read earlier, she did get a deep nasal swab though. Now we wait!

normanoffside · 15-09-2020 07:34PM

Arghus wrote: »

I agree with all of that. But I do think that the message MM and SD have to deliver is more complicated and less stark. In a sense the messaging delivered by LV and SH was much more black and white and people weren't as tired listening to it.

Though Leo is a master in fairness. How he's managed to keep the stink of every bad government decision off him - The Tainiste! - and have it always associated with FF is pretty amazing.

He stepped away at just the right time.
You'd have to wonder if the timing of forming the coalition was pre-planned

KillTheTories · 15-09-2020 07:34PM

The country needs to go into a 4-6 month full lockdown. No one but the most essential of essential workers should be let operate and not even shops should be open. Have groceries delivered to people's houses. If we do open up after that it should be in a strict New Zealand/ Australia system. We've pissed away our chance to end covid im ****ing raging

Goldengirl · 15-09-2020 07:35PM

is_that_so wrote: »

It was also up and down from 6 to 12 earlier in the summer. In terms of managing numbers it's fine.

During the summer we did not have rising cases and community transmission, outside of ICU.
These numbers are doubling every fortnight now.

drunkmonkey · 15-09-2020 07:36PM

Van.Bosch wrote: »

Even if it is schools what’s the alternative?

There is none, schools are staying open no matter what. Quicker it flushes through them now the better, that's if it already hasn't back between November and February.

yourdeadwright · 15-09-2020 07:36PM

Can you leave Dublin if your going to a wedding?

15-09-2020 07:36PM

political analyst wrote: »

With all the measures being taken - social distancing, mandatory face-covering, provision of hand sanitiser - why are so many people in Dublin still being infected with the virus?

Yes, I see quite a few wearing face coverings, less wearing the more effective "medical" masks, and people are at times rather lax about social distancing in supermarket aisles. My nearest Supervalu on Southside Dublin has very narrow aisles where close encounters happen all the time, and virus may be getting through the flimsy face covers worn.

15-09-2020 07:36PM

delly wrote: »

Funny how there is a suspected case in the Dail and the whole place goes into knee jerk lockdown, the exact thing they said would not be done with schools, oh the double standards are beyond funny. MM then rows in with the Dail continuing with junior ministers, as they would be hammered for it otherwise.

The analogy would be sending all the front of house staff home because all the kitchen staff were out. They found a few waiters who claimed they could cook a bit though so everyone is coming back. don’t think I would like to eat in that restaurant however.

growleaves · 15-09-2020 07:38PM

Arghus wrote: »

Though Leo is a master in fairness. How he's managed to keep the stink of every bad government decision off him - The Tainiste! - and have it always associated with FF is pretty amazing.

Do you remember when L. Varadkar became Health Minister in 2014?

One of the first things he did was make an emotional statement about all the people suffering stuck on trolleys. From then on the crisis of numbers on trolleys was never blamed on him unlike all the previous Health Ministers, M. Martin included.

The problem with this is that anyone over the age of 12 should be able to see that he's engaging in a kind of emotional anchoring and resist it. Instead people lap it up which is how he rose to the top job.

Goldengirl · 15-09-2020 07:38PM

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Gods Gift wrote: »

Clair daly is an mep now.

I was thinking Ming Flanagan , strange that

froog · 15-09-2020 07:39PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Can you leave Dublin if your going to a wedding?

as far as i understand there is nothing legally stopping anyone leaving dublin. it's just advisory.

snowgal · 15-09-2020 07:39PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Don’t take my word for it

https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/managing-coronavirus-at-home/if-you-live-with-someone-who-has-coronavirus.html

No I get it and know the rules,I think! as said wasn’t getting at anyone it’s just this is the mess we’re in because of different feckin changes and ppl just not being sure...

KillTheTories · 15-09-2020 07:40PM

froog wrote: »

as far as i understand there is nothing legally stopping anyone leaving dublin. it's just advisory.

I suppose people's selfishness and desire to get pissed at a wedding comes before the health of others. That's why we had 300+ cases today

Sconsey · 15-09-2020 07:40PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

They've been rising since mandatory masks were introduced in retail, people back hanging around in shops, not cleaning their hands and not keeping their distance.
It's not schools/creches.

But the numbers are still rising...those lethal masks, people must be wearing two or three now :rolleyes:

little bess · 15-09-2020 07:40PM

the corpo wrote: »

Rang the GP for my 10 year old daughter at 9am this morning, and was told they're so busy call back wouldn't be til the afternoon. Got call about 3pm, but in fairness she was referred and we had an appointment within 20 minutes.
Was at the Aviva at 6pm, and my god the queues were huge (a friend got tested at Vincents yesterday, said there were only two or three cars). Army administering the whole thing, and they did a fantastic job. Despite the queue we were through in 35 minutes.

Despite what I'd read earlier, she did get a deep nasal swab though. Now we wait!

That was fast. My adult daughter hasn’t been well since yesterday, has been self-isolating at her home and rang gp reception this morning with symptoms of cough and temperature. No call back from gp yet!

rob316 · 15-09-2020 07:46PM

KillTheTories wrote: »

The country needs to go into a 4-6 month full lockdown. No one but the most essential of essential workers should be let operate and not even shops should be open. Have groceries delivered to people's houses. If we do open up after that it should be in a strict New Zealand/ Australia system. We've pissed away our chance to end covid im ****ing raging

Put yourself into lockdown

snotboogie · 15-09-2020 07:48PM

KillTheTories wrote: »

The country needs to go into a 4-6 month full lockdown. No one but the most essential of essential workers should be let operate and not even shops should be open. Have groceries delivered to people's houses. If we do open up after that it should be in a strict New Zealand/ Australia system. We've pissed away our chance to end covid im ****ing raging

Vaccine is on the way. Treatments and testing improving rapidly. We are in for a tough few months but I think we'll start to see vaccinations in January and improved testing and treatments having an effect then too. We should have gone for zero covid back in March but at this stage we might as well hang on.

ShyMets · 15-09-2020 07:49PM

KillTheTories wrote: »

The country needs to go into a 4-6 month full lockdown. No one but the most essential of essential workers should be let operate and not even shops should be open. Have groceries delivered to people's houses. If we do open up after that it should be in a strict New Zealand/ Australia system. We've pissed away our chance to end covid im ****ing raging

Dear God. I dont even know where to start with that post

Goldengirl · 15-09-2020 07:50PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Can you leave Dublin if your going to a wedding?

No

bb1234567 · 15-09-2020 07:50PM

Mad to think this is all kicking off again in Europe just as winter approaches,almost1000 COVID deaths in Europe in the last 48 hours, could that timing really just be coincidence or could it be a seasonal illness?

Klonker · 15-09-2020 07:51PM

KillTheTories wrote: »

The country needs to go into a 4-6 month full lockdown. No one but the most essential of essential workers should be let operate and not even shops should be open. Have groceries delivered to people's houses. If we do open up after that it should be in a strict New Zealand/ Australia system. We've pissed away our chance to end covid im ****ing raging

I don't even know what to say in response to this. I just feel sorry for you to be honest that you think the above is some kind of reasonable solution.

Goldengirl · 15-09-2020 07:52PM

KillTheTories wrote: »

I suppose people's selfishness and desire to get pissed at a wedding comes before the health of others. That's why we had 300+ cases today

yourdeadright is not selfish though ...he risks life and limb to bring us the cases every day !

odyssey06 · 15-09-2020 07:53PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Can you leave Dublin if your going to a wedding?

Theres no legal restrictions right now.
Just advisory.
Some fussy hotels might start cancelling bookings from Dublin addresses though.

Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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