Is it time for a Dublin lockdown?

Thelonious Monk · 15-09-2020 11:51AM

Cyrus wrote: »

yeah its not as if anyone who wants to goto a pub has too far to look.

There are about 10 pubs near me now where I could get a pint and some mickey mouse bit of food to make it ok.

JimmyVik · 15-09-2020 11:55AM

Im confused.
Supposed to meet a couple of friends in dublin city center on Friday for a pind and a meal.
3 people. From 3 different households.
Do the rules announced today mean we cant meet.

Busi_Girl08 · 15-09-2020 11:57AM

JimmyVik wrote: »

Im confused.
Supposed to meet a couple of friends in dublin city center on Friday for a pind and a meal.
3 people. From 3 different households.
Do the rules announced today mean we cant meet.

You should be fine. No changes to restaurant/eating out settings.

JimmyVik · 15-09-2020 11:58AM

Busi_Girl08 wrote: »

You should be fine. No changes to restaurant/eating out settings.

Phew. Thought we would have to go to Kildare or Wicklow

onmebike · 15-09-2020 11:58AM

JimmyVik wrote: »

Im confused.
Supposed to meet a couple of friends in dublin city center on Friday for a pind and a meal.
3 people. From 3 different households.
Do the rules announced today mean we cant meet.

Busi_Girl08 wrote: »

You should be fine. No changes to restaurant/eating out settings.

I thought someone - possibly Leo - said that those settings are for 1 household too? I.e. you and a person/people from 1 other household.

ixoy · 15-09-2020 11:59AM

Busi_Girl08 wrote: »

You should be fine. No changes to restaurant/eating out settings.

But you can't meet them in a wide open park setting. Just indoors in a restaurant.

onmebike · 15-09-2020 12:01PM

Here's what I thought I heard.

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1305836209885904896

sheepskin1234 · 15-09-2020 12:03PM

A recommendation isn't a restriction. :pac:

They couldn't wait to lockdown LOK yet they're using any ways possible not to do it to the disease ridden Dubs.

Busi_Girl08 · 15-09-2020 12:03PM

onmebike wrote: »

I thought someone - possibly Leo - said that those settings are for 1 household too? I.e. you and a person/people from 1 other household.

That's the restriction for outdoor or other gatherings.

There doesn't seem to be any distinction when it comes to dublin for bars/restaurant, unless the bit in bold is their get out of jail free card.

Bars, cafes and restaurants (including hotel restaurants and bars)
Open with protective measures in place (for example: physical distancing, table service only, cleaning regimes, noise controls).

Maximum numbers in restaurants and cafes linked to capacity of establishment, taking account of public health advice, but with individual groups limited to 6 people from up to 3 households.

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/18e18-level-2/#social-and-family-gatherings

15-09-2020 12:38PM

Edgware wrote: »

There is scope with a bit of ingenuity for partial return to the office. Lazy companies are taking the easy way out. But young employees working from bedrooms in rented accommodation cannot continue especially with dark evenings on the way. The mental health of people requires int3raction with colleagues over the water cooler etc

Absolute horsesh1t, my mental health has improved immeasurably since working from home began and I've been able to avoid 'interacting with colleagues at the water cooler' :rolleyes:. There are far more positives than there are negatives, and I'd wager that applies to the vast, vast majority of people.:

zero morning commute, improved cooking facilities for healthier lunches, proximity to local amenities for lunchtime exercise, having the dog with me all day, being able to clock off earlier most days, zero evening rush hour commute, less money spent on lunches/bus fare/pints/dry cleaning/doggy daycare/collections for people leaving, wearing comfortable clothing while you're working, having access to certain work stuff from home that you previously didn't.........do I need to continue?

The fact that I don't have to make idle chitchat with all the office gossip merchants is a BONUS instead of a hindrance. You can still speak to people, you know, doesn't have to be at the water cooler?

weldoninhio · 15-09-2020 01:01PM

DangerScouse wrote: »

Great to hear the pubs in Dublin will remain closed but more needs to done to stop Dublin infecting the rest of the nation.

I've next week off. Was hoping to go on a pub crawl one of the day. Looking at an overnight down the country now and a pub crawl down there. I reckon i'm not the only one.

no.8 · 15-09-2020 01:11PM

Deleted User wrote:

Absolute horsesh1t, my mental health has improved immeasurably since working from home began and I've been able to avoid 'interacting with colleagues at the water cooler' . There are far more positives than there are negatives, and I'd wager that applies to the vast, vast majority of people.:

This is just your own, individual and seemingly narrow-minded opinion, which is frankly worth bollix all to many of us.

The commenter however had a more open-minded approach to facilitate a partial return to the office where there's desire. Most people don't too be alone all the time.

weldoninhio · 15-09-2020 01:14PM

no.8 wrote: »

This is just your own, individual and seemingly narrow-minded opinion, which is frankly worth bollix all to many of us.

The commenter however had a more open-minded approach to facilitate a partial return to the office where there's desire. Most people don't too be alone all the time.

100%. Most normal people are social beings and like interactions with others.

Cyrus · 15-09-2020 01:14PM

no.8 wrote: »

This is just your own, individual and seemingly narrow-minded opinion, which is frankly worth bollix all to many of us.

The commenter however had a more open-minded approach to facilitate a partial return to the office where there's desire. Most people don't too be alone all the time.

agreed, hanging out with a dog all day in 'comfortable' clothes (what do you wear to work a hair shirt?) isnt everyones situation.

15-09-2020 01:25PM

no.8 wrote: »

This is just your own, individual and seemingly narrow-minded opinion, which is frankly worth bollix all to many of us.

The commenter however had a more open-minded approach to facilitate a partial return to the office where there's desire. Most people don't too be alone all the time.

No, they did not have any sort of open-minded approach to anything. They made a broad, sweeping, generalisation that "The mental health of people requires int3raction with colleagues over the water cooler etc" when this is, in fact, untrue. I gave multiple examples of how this isn't the case for many people, including myself, so calling this narrow-minded demonstrates to me that you haven't a clue what the correct meaning of 'narrow-minded' actually is.

Do you really require commuting into work so that you are interacting with people over the water cooler to keep yourself mentally healthy? Really and honestly, do you?

15-09-2020 01:27PM

Deleted User wrote: »

No, they did not have any sort of open-minded approach to anything. They made a broad, sweeping, generalisation that "The mental health of people requires int3raction with colleagues over the water cooler etc" when this is, in fact, untrue. I gave multiple examples of how this isn't the case for many people, including myself, so calling this narrow-minded demonstrates to me that you haven't a clue what the correct meaning of 'narrow-minded' actually is.

Do you really require commuting into work so that you are interacting with people over the water cooler to keep yourself mentally healthy? Really and honestly, do you?

You then said your situation applied for the 'vast, vast majority of people'.

So you are also making massive narrow minded generalisations

15-09-2020 01:27PM

Cyrus wrote: »

agreed, hanging out with a dog all day in 'comfortable' clothes (what do you wear to work a hair shirt?) isnt everyones situation.

Do me a favour, throw on a shirt, tie and shoes when you get up tomorrow morning at half 7 and wear them until about half 6 in the evening, then see how that compares to a pair of shorts or tracksuit bottoms, we'll see how long those inverted commas last around the word 'comfortable'.

Poor_old_gill · 15-09-2020 01:30PM

Are matches allowed to ahead in Dublin this weekend?

Under level 2 they are bit under level 3 they aren’t- gona make plans if soccer match is cancelled

15-09-2020 01:32PM

AdamD wrote: »

You then said your situation applied for the 'vast, vast majority of people'.

So you are also making massive narrow minded generalisations

But it does?

Commuting into work, having a dress code, not being able to get out for a bit of fresh air/exercise and spending money on the bits and bobs that go along with all that applies to the vast, vast majority of people. How could it not?

Also, for the record, I said "I'd wager" it applies to them.

15-09-2020 01:37PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

100%. Most normal people are social beings and like interactions with others.

Agreed. I too like interactions with others, however the point I was making is that the negative effects of talking bollocks 'at the water cooler' are clearly outweighed by all of the other varying positive factors that go along with not having to commute into the office. You can still get your interactions with others by using all that extra time you've saved commuting to interact with people of your choosing, instead of being forced to share a space with the same twenty people for 40hrs a week.

charlietheminxx · 15-09-2020 01:51PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Agreed. I too like interactions with others, however the point I was making is that the negative effects of talking bollocks 'at the water cooler' are clearly outweighed by all of the other varying positive factors that go along with not having to commute into the office. You can still get your interactions with others by using all that extra time you've saved commuting to interact with people of your choosing, instead of being forced to share a space with the same twenty people for 40hrs a week.

For what it's worth, I couldn't agree with you more!

I'm splitting my time at the moment between the office and WFH at the moment, which was a compromise with my boss, but I'm much happier working from home. Less of my time wasted commuting, I work more efficiently and more of my social interactions are with people I like

JimmyVik · 15-09-2020 01:57PM

charlietheminxx wrote: »

For what it's worth, I couldn't agree with you more!

I'm splitting my time at the moment between the office and WFH at the moment, which was a compromise with my boss, but I'm much happier working from home. Less of my time wasted commuting, I work more efficiently and more of my social interactions are with people I like

It took me a while to get used to working from home, but now I much prefer it to the days ive to go into the office.
My employer is dying to get the whole company back into the office though, which i will hate doing at this stage.

sheepskin1234 · 15-09-2020 02:00PM

Some lads should be careful what they wish for about WFH.

100% WFH makes you even more of just a number. No personal relationship grown, no banter before/after meetings. Even things like promotions would be harder got.

KaneToad · 15-09-2020 02:04PM

sheepskin1234 wrote: »

Some lads should be careful what they wish for about WFH.

100% WFH makes you even more of just a number. No personal relationship grown, no banter before/after meetings. Even things like promotions would be harder got.

Sounds like bliss to me.
Promotions would be based on ability/quality of work and not brown nosing.

tobefrank321 · 15-09-2020 02:06PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

I've next week off. Was hoping to go on a pub crawl one of the day. Looking at an overnight down the country now and a pub crawl down there. I reckon i'm not the only one.

You could have 3 pints at home in the comfort of your sitting room for the price of one in a pub and without the possibility of infecting someone else or yourself.

Some people treat a pint in a pub as if its oxygen and they can't live without it.

_Kaiser_ · 15-09-2020 02:09PM

sheepskin1234 wrote: »

Some lads should be careful what they wish for about WFH.

100% WFH makes you even more of just a number. No personal relationship grown, no banter before/after meetings. Even things like promotions would be harder got.

It depends on the role.

I've been WFH full-time since March and really very little changed for me.. but that's because most of my week involves dealing with 2/3 people locally and the rest are offshore (including the rest of my team and management). Because of this there's no "social life" in work to miss anyway and I was WFH'ing 1/2 days a week anyway.

As such I can pretty much work from anywhere with a phone, laptop and internet connection. The local offices are starting to plan for a staggered return to office but even then it'll be no more than 50% maximum.

There's no plans or need for me to return to an office so I'll likely go in only once a month or so for the day. I get more done from home than I do with no random walk-ups or having to find a meeting room for a call, or walking the corridors because I can't.

In fact, any new jobs I consider (and I'm getting more calls of late which is a good sign) will need to have a flexible/WFH policy. I won't be returning to a daily 2/3 hour commute unless absolutely unavoidable.

sheepskin1234 · 15-09-2020 02:11PM

KaneToad wrote: »

Sounds like bliss to me.
Promotions would be based on ability/quality of work and not brown nosing.

Not brown nosing, building connections and relationships.

What's the point of team bonding if it doesnt matter anyways and you and your colleague just doing your job would be just as effective.

Cyrus · 15-09-2020 02:20PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Do me a favour, throw on a shirt, tie and shoes when you get up tomorrow morning at half 7 and wear them until about half 6 in the evening, then see how that compares to a pair of shorts or tracksuit bottoms, we'll see how long those inverted commas last around the word 'comfortable'.

as a grown up i dont wear tracksuit bottoms but whatever you feel 'comfortable' in

KaneToad · 15-09-2020 02:23PM

sheepskin1234 wrote: »

Not brown nosing, building connections and relationships.

What's the point of team bonding if it doesnt matter anyways and you and your colleague just doing your job would be just as effective.

I don't think there is much point in team bonding. I do think just doing your job is just as effective.

I can work collaboratively with anyone, I don't need to have the banter with them to achieve this.

15-09-2020 02:30PM

Cyrus wrote: »

as a grown up i dont wear tracksuit bottoms but whatever you feel 'comfortable' in

Imagine being so judgemental that you thought tracksuit bottoms were for children, instead of being situation dependant. People are crazy.

Is it time for a Dublin lockdown?

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