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Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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  • #1442
    Masala
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,543 ✭✭✭Masala


    Hi all. As of 13 sept 2020...... what is the latest limit on Indoor Meetings??

    I was working on the govt release on 18 Aug saying max 6. But I see where IHF are advisin* their member hotels that this now gone out to 50. But I dont see the govt rowing in behind this new number

    Can anyone link me to the definitive answer. Many thanks in advance


  • #1443
    SusanC10
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    Selfishly, I would love the work from home to continue for my Husband. (He has no interest in returning to the long commute).
    It has made such a positive difference to our family life and for us one of the very few positives of this pandemic.
    Pre-Covid, he spent 3 hours every day Mon-Fri commuting to Dublin. He travelled a lot for work too so the Kids barely saw him. They love having him here now. It is great that if he finishes work at 6.30pm then he just has to switch off the computer and he is done.


  • #1444
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    screamer wrote: »
    Jees you’re full of solutions. My prism of reality, presumptious aren’t we...... ignore button clicked

    Well most of us like working with colleagues and the social aspect of work. It also helps in my own line of work when a collaborative approach is needed.

    If you don't care if you never see your co workers again that's your problem and probably says more about the workplace than anything else.


  • #1445
    drunkmonkey
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    Will all these rules need to be underpinned with legislation, they need to be very clear this time on what people can and can't legally do.
    They can't say people can' only have 10 people in the house unless there's a law and punishment to underpin it, I'd say there waking into a legal minefield if the special covid committee was anything to go by last week.


  • #1446
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    screamer wrote: »
    Jees you’re full of solutions. My prism of reality, presumptious aren’t we...... ignore button clicked
    Yeah, solutions to problems are my thing! You have a nice day now. Seriously though judging by this you might want to reflect internally on how you deal with external "stimuli".


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  • #1447
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Give it a rest will you. I don't like wearing masks, who does? Can't wait to get rid of the things.

    Anti vaccine crowds wouldn't have the slightest clue about safety data and go off whatever the local Facebook conspiracy group status is for the day.

    If a vaccine is a way to get back to normal then just go with it, christ read up on it if you prefer before taking it. Its what I've been doing and learned an awful lot about the process

    Over the years I've had more than the average number of vaccines and if a Covid vaccine is proven safe I would have no issue with getting it. But what has that got to do with my post? Can't you see how dictatorial some people are becoming?


  • #1448
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Will all these rules need to be underpinned with legislation, they need to be very clear this time on what people can and can't legally do.
    They can't say people can' only have 10 people in the house unless there's a law and punishment to underpin it, I'd say there waking into a legal minefield if the special covid committee was anything to go by last week.
    We actually have these rules going back to the complete restrictions in March. The house "rule", as unenforceable as it is, is an appeal to personal responsibility backed up by that ultimate threat of Level 5 of March all over again. I think the plan is more to show we have a plan and even if it has big holes in it that we have a strategy of sorts for the next 6 months.


  • #1449
    [Deleted User]
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    SusanC10 wrote: »
    Selfishly, I would love the work from home to continue for my Husband. (He has no interest in returning to the long commute).
    It has made such a positive difference to our family life and for us one of the very few positives of this pandemic.
    Pre-Covid, he spent 3 hours every day Mon-Fri commuting to Dublin. He travelled a lot for work too so the Kids barely saw him. They love having him here now. It is great that if he finishes work at 6.30pm then he just has to switch off the computer and he is done.

    What time did he finish before covid?
    I used to start my commute at 6:45, arrive at work at 7:15, Leave at 4:45, pick up kids at 5:30 and arrive home at 5:45 Very quickly after lockdown I found my workday started checking emails over breakfast at 6:45, and didn't finish until I shutdown the laptop at 5:30 as my workday expanded to fill my commute time.


  • #1450
    Gruffalux
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    SusanC10 wrote: »
    Selfishly, I would love the work from home to continue for my Husband. (He has no interest in returning to the long commute).
    It has made such a positive difference to our family life and for us one of the very few positives of this pandemic.
    Pre-Covid, he spent 3 hours every day Mon-Fri commuting to Dublin. He travelled a lot for work too so the Kids barely saw him. They love having him here now. It is great that if he finishes work at 6.30pm then he just has to switch off the computer and he is done.

    That's not selfish at all. It is really good for families to have more time together. One of the things I heard from the young children in our extended families was that they loved the lockdown because they had Mammy and Daddy at home.

    As for the febrile exchange of ideas in offices, feck that! I have all the ideas I need in my head and a quick phone call or whatsapp face time, or a speed chat when we briefly meet on a quick visit sorts out any sharing thats needed. The amount of time that gets wasted at work yammering on and bloody on about nothing. It is horribly distracting if you have stuff that needs concentration. And for a rest if at home one can go lie out under a tree! Woohoo!


  • #1451
    wadacrack
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    60 now confirmed in hospital. 10 in ICU


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  • #1452
    GooglePlus
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    screamer wrote: »
    Yep, we’ll be herded into town and city offices because forget COVID-19, our money is more important to prop up some small sandwich shops than anything else.
    Sure, we should just open the country up and to hell with the consequences, well just take our chances....

    Nobody is forcing your employer to stop you working from home.


  • #1453
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    wadacrack wrote: »
    60 now confirmed in hospital. 10 in ICU
    Still very low, especially in ICU, but maybe starting to go the wrong way as they might say.


  • #1454
    SusanC10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    What time did he finish before covid?
    I used to start my commute at 6:45, arrive at work at 7:15, Leave at 4:45, pick up kids at 5:30 and arrive home at 5:45 Very quickly after lockdown I found my workday started checking emails over breakfast at 6:45, and didn't finish until I shutdown the laptop at 5:30 as my workday expanded to fill my commute time.

    He would have finished approx 6.30pm. Then approx 1.5 hours on a bus to where he has parked his car. Would arrive home 8pm-8.30pm depending on traffic. He would have left home at approx 6.30am.
    Now, he starts at 8am. Finishes usually by 6pm but even if it is 6.30pm some days, he is still done then.


  • #1455
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    SusanC10 wrote: »
    Selfishly, I would love the work from home to continue for my Husband. (He has no interest in returning to the long commute).
    It has made such a positive difference to our family life and for us one of the very few positives of this pandemic.
    Pre-Covid, he spent 3 hours every day Mon-Fri commuting to Dublin. He travelled a lot for work too so the Kids barely saw him. They love having him here now. It is great that if he finishes work at 6.30pm then he just has to switch off the computer and he is done.

    Same here, the only thing I actually miss is the commute, as it was my exercise and I've been finding it hard to fit that in. I've eaten almost every meal with my wife and daughter since March, can walk her to school and pick her up. We also had some team issues at the start where people were finding it hard being dispersed, but those have all ironed themselves out and we're more productive than ever before.


  • #1456
    Polar101
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    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Well most of us like working with colleagues and the social aspect of work. It also helps in my own line of work when a collaborative approach is needed.

    I'm in a pretty strange situation myself, at the start of the year a lot of my colleagues in Ireland were let go, and I've mostly been working with people from overseas. Three months later the office was closed, but I'm still working with those overseas people I wouldn't be seeing face to face anyway - so nothing has actually changed for me during the pandemic (except my commute is down to 9 seconds from 9 minutes). Work-wise nothing has changed, that is.

    While that sounds all right, in the medium term I'd expect I'll get sacked too - but that's another story. :)


  • #1457
    [Deleted User]
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    SusanC10 wrote: »
    He would have finished approx 6.30pm. Then approx 1.5 hours on a bus to where he has parked his car. Would arrive home 8pm-8.30pm depending on traffic. He would have left home at approx 6.30am.
    Now, he starts at 8am. Finishes usually by 6pm but even if it is 6.30pm some days, he is still done then.

    Can see how that would make a huge difference. I am eternally grateful for never having had to work in the capital. My commute is now down to 20 mins with reduced traffic


  • #1458
    PCros
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    Still very low, especially in ICU, but maybe starting to go the wrong way as they might say.

    How many ICU beds do we have again in total?


  • #1459
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    PCros wrote: »
    How many ICU beds do we have again in total?

    Heard a mention of about 280 on Morning Ireland this morning.


  • #1460
    What Username Guidelines
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    Seamai wrote: »
    Heard a mention of about 280 on Morning Ireland this morning.

    On one hand, you've surge capacity to get more, but on the other hand you've to consider availability and staffing levels.

    I ignorantly looked around at a load of empty ICU beds in Crumlin before and said to a nurse, I suppose the bright side is that you've lots of beds available and there aren't that many sick kids. She said they were empty due to staffing levels. :(


  • #1461
    MerlinSouthDub
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    wadacrack wrote: »
    60 now confirmed in hospital. 10 in ICU

    Is it the case that the 60 are people who are Covid-19 positive and are in hospital for any reason? So, they may be in hospital specifically for Covid-19 treatment or they may be in hospital for treatment of some other condition and have tested Covid-19 positive?


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  • #1462
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    Is it the case that the 60 are people who are Covid-19 positive and are in hospital for any reason? So, they may be in hospital specifically for Covid-19 treatment or they may be in hospital for treatment of some other condition and have tested Covid-19 positive?

    There was a post earlier that made reference to this.

    I think it was an interview saying hosptial labs had started to see more routine tests for admissions coming back postive.

    Post in question might have been early this morning or late last night.


  • #1463
    [Deleted User]
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    what age profile were the last 5 deaths? anyone know?
    why don't they say anymore? it was always, age/setting/sex and noted underlying health condition. why has that changed?


  • #1464
    Sweet.Science
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    rusty cole wrote: »
    what age profile were the last 5 deaths? anyone know?
    why don't they say anymore? it was always, age/setting/sex and noted underlying health condition. why has that changed?

    Because if they released the information people will realise its no threat to them and breach social distancing guidelines


  • #1465
    Polar101
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    https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/are-your-symptoms-flu-or-covid-19-how-to-tell-the-difference-1.4345752
    Approximately 4,300 people were hospitalised for flu in Ireland in the 2019-2020 flu season, according to figures presented at the Oireachtas Special Committee on Covid-19
    the amount of testing for influenza virus in a normal winter is between 15,000-20,000 tests
    What happens if people catch Covid and flu at the same time? Dr Lucy Jessop, director of public health at the National Immunisation Office, says that early studies from China during the end of the 2019/2020 flu season found that there are more likely to be complications and poorer outcomes in people who have Covid-19 and the flu virus at the same time.

    Some pretty interesting numbers regarding the flu season (now with added Covid), which is "officially" starting on October 1st.


  • #1466
    gipi
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    rusty cole wrote: »
    what age profile were the last 5 deaths? anyone know?
    why don't they say anymore? it was always, age/setting/sex and noted underlying health condition. why has that changed?

    The daily numbers are so low that to give out information like that might identify the deceased.


  • #1467
    Boggles
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    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    Is it the case that the 60 are people who are Covid-19 positive and are in hospital for any reason? So, they may be in hospital specifically for Covid-19 treatment or they may be in hospital for treatment of some other condition and have tested Covid-19 positive?
    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    There was a post earlier that made reference to this.

    I think it was an interview saying hosptial labs had started to see more routine tests for admissions coming back postive.

    Post in question might have been early this morning or late last night.

    You don't get near a hospital if you test positive in screening for elective surgery.

    It's why they are doing it.


  • #1468
    stephenjmcd
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    Boggles wrote: »
    You don't get near a hospital if you test positive in screening for elective surgery.

    It's why they are doing it.

    As I mentioned in my post, originally linked by Spookwoman last night

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1305222456504979457?s=19


  • #1469
    Non solum non ambulabit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    gipi wrote: »
    The daily numbers are so low that to give out information like that might identify the deceased.

    Hardly. If there are 3 deaths with Covid in a week there will be 630 other deaths not related to Covid.


  • #1470
    Boggles
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    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    As I mentioned in my post, originally linked by Spookwoman last night
    to see significant increases in positive COVID tests among people awaiting routine hospital admission

    They are testing people 72 hours before they are allowed attend a hospital for elective procedures.

    If they test positive, it is canceled.

    They don't get anywhere near them.


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  • #1471
    Non solum non ambulabit
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    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    As I mentioned in my post, originally linked by Spookwoman last night

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1305222456504979457?s=19

    I assume these patients are then not allowed into the Hospital for the their procedure?


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