Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

12-09-2020 05:20PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

There's no narrative that we are all likely to be hooked up to a ventilator other than from the minority of semi retired docs and unqualified twitter commentators that are telling us everyone is overreacting. My take is that all people are generally saying is we have to continue to take precautions and not dismiss the risk that this could get on top of us again. I am interested to see how the 'no deaths' pans out though, and the reasons for the apparent weakening of the virus, but perhaps it hasn't weakened, perhaps it's just not reaching the vulnerable as much right now. Time will tell I guess.

Every day irish times/independent wheels out some person or family were a relatively young healthy person was in icu 30s 40 s with covid. The context for joe public is "it could be you". This is biased and fear mongering. Perhaps as all viruses it kills the weak and vulnerable in a big wave, then mass immunity to protect population, but small number will still die.

NIMAN · 12-09-2020 05:20PM

There's an interesting set of charts in the BBC website at present, and if I'm correct from what I heard someone say on Irish radio the other day, we are similar.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54064347

Cases are rising (among younger people and allowing these scary headlines to be made) but the numbers of hospital admissions, people in ICU and people dying aren't rising.

So it appears that the older and more vulnerable people are staying safe and obviously most people are still doing the proper thing as told.

Ficheall · 12-09-2020 05:21PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

I’m in my late 30s and broke up with someone over lockdown, and I wonder now will I ever meet anyone in time to to be able to start a family. I know a lot of people in the same boat. A year is a very long time for some people and what happens in that year will have consequences for the rest of their lives.

As a matter of interest, did lockdown help you realise they weren't the one for you? iirc, divorce rates increased in China after the lockdown.

DebDynamite wrote: »

...and what happens in that year will have consequences for the rest of their lives.

Especially if they die.

podgeandrodge · 12-09-2020 05:25PM

Cody montana wrote: »

Time to lockdown Dublin!

Cody montana wrote:

Time to lockdown Dublin.

Cody montana wrote:

Lock Dublin down.

#2

Cody montana wrote:

Shut it down!

Can you elaborate on what you want?

12-09-2020 05:25PM

Hardyn wrote: »

One of those four is OC43. It's believed that it's emergence led to the Russian Flu. A pandemic that killed over a million people in 1889/90. Fair chance the other three had similar histories.

Not having read up on this before, it does sound very like Covid 19. It’s is notable that it appears to have had 3-4 distinct waves between starting in 1889 and dissipating to the background in 1895. Using this a evidence that c-19 is weakening may be premature

Gruffalux · 12-09-2020 05:26PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

All very easy for a lot of people to say “let’s just give it a year”. A lot of people are coming out of this pandemic quite nicely - WFM on full wages, thousands saved on child care, money saved by not having to attend a child’s birthday party every week, while they could sit at home during lockdown with their families in their nice little bubble.

I’m in my late 30s and broke up with someone over lockdown, and I wonder now will I ever meet anyone in time to to be able to start a family. I know a lot of people in the same boat. A year is a very long time for some people and what happens in that year will have consequences for the rest of their lives.

A year is a long time for anyone. I was on my way to visit one of my children who lives in Europe in March and had to cancel. So I have not seen them since New Years day and who knows when we will meet again. We used to be back and forth regularly. Also my husband was in the first batch back out when lockdown lifted. Everyone has their own issues with this trip. But my overal point is that we cannot understand it til 1 year has passed and people should protect the whole community for the duration. That reality is unchanged by personal hardships.

inthenip · 12-09-2020 05:31PM

gifted wrote: »

I can't see cases hitting a thousand a day again.....3...4..or even 500 at a push but I can't see a 1000 a day.....

It will probably be another two/three months before we see the full impact of schools and colleges back and employers forcing people back to the office.

12-09-2020 05:31PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Not having read up on this before, it does sound very like Covid 19. It’s is notable that it appears to have had 3-4 distinct waves between starting in 1889 and dissipating to the background in 1895. Using this a evidence than c-19 is weakening may be premature

The virus has probably infected as many people
now due to increase in populations and globalisation. There was no ryan air in europe then.

petes · 12-09-2020 05:33PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Every day irish times/independent wheels out some person or family were a relatively young healthy person was in icu 30s 40 s with covid. The context for joe public is "it could be you". This is biased and fear mongering. Perhaps as all viruses it kills the weak and vulnerable in a big wave, then mass immunity to protect population, but small number will still die.

Do you read back what you type? We had no big wave and there is **** all immunity currently. If you have a link to back up anything that you say can you post it?

If not it's just an armchair opinion, a speculative one at that!

12-09-2020 05:38PM

petes wrote: »

Do you read back what you type? We had no big wave and there is **** all immunity currently. If you have a link to back up anything that you say can you post it?

If not it's just an armchair opinion, a speculative one at that!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8UvFhIFzaac

It's called the gompertz curve. Educate yourself.

12-09-2020 05:39PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The virus has probably infected as many people
now due to increase in populations and globalisation. There was no ryan air in europe then.

It was estimated at have infected between 300 and 900 million people and killed a million at a time when the world population was about 20% of what it is now. It spread from Central Asia to Moscow and St Petersburg by November 1889, and reached most of Europe and the United States before Christmas the same year.

Basq · 12-09-2020 05:42PM

Two deaths from Covid-19, 159 new cases confirmed
http://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0912/1164846-latest-covid-figures/

SleetAndSnow · 12-09-2020 05:43PM

Of the 159:
• 70 men, 89 women
• 65% are under 45
• 51% associated with outbreaks or are close contacts of a confirmed case; 23 from community transmission
• 75 in Dublin, 10 in Louth, 6 in Cork, 6 in Donegal, 6 in Meath, 5 in Laois, 5 in Wexford; remaining 46 in 17 counties

stephenjmcd · 12-09-2020 05:45PM

Basq wrote: »

Two deaths from Covid-19, 159 new cases confirmed
http://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0912/1164846-latest-covid-figures/

Not good in the sense that we now have a backlog created of nearly 100 cases today

PopTarts · 12-09-2020 05:45PM

Are they holding 100 back for Tuesday?

12-09-2020 05:45PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It was estimated at have infected between 300 and 900 million people and killed a million at a time when the world population was about 20% of what it is now. It spread from Central Asia to Moscow and St Petersburg by November 1889, and reached most of Europe and the United States before Christmas the same year.

It infected up.to 900 million and only killed 1 million when living conditions and health care very basic. That's actually made me more optimistic about this. Thanks good info.

mirrorwall14 · 12-09-2020 05:45PM

Van.Bosch wrote: »

Maybe but the person in our house is 7 so in school so not too different to a teacher in that potentially a class at risk.

I was very surprised to be honest. Maybe there are different testers for children so they’re further backed up?

GooglePlus · 12-09-2020 05:45PM

So 100 odd not announced. Nice high number early in the week.

Gadgetman496 · 12-09-2020 05:46PM

75 in Dublin, 10 in Louth, 6 in Cork, 6 in Donegal, 6 in Meath, 5 in Laois, 5 in Wexford, and the remaining 46 cases are in Carlow, Cavan, Clare, Galway, Kerry, Kildare, Kilkenny, Leitrim, Limerick, Longford, Mayo, Offaly, Roscommon, Tipperary, Waterford, Westmeath and Wicklow.

Feria40 · 12-09-2020 05:46PM

Perhaps a dumb question after so many threads but am I correct in saying that anyone with Covid19 on death cert is classified as a Covid19 death regardless of any other ailment?

Simple reason I ask is that like lots of people just now I am after getting the daily RTE notification on my phone advising of 2 deaths 'from Covid19'. Poor journalism or have they changed what is classified as a Covid19 death?

inthenip · 12-09-2020 05:47PM

I doubt the pubs will be back open the 21st now.

Seamai · 12-09-2020 05:48PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Not good in the sense that we now have a backlog created of nearly 100 cases today

There seems to be backlogs once or twice every week now. Why are they holding off?

stephenjmcd · 12-09-2020 05:48PM

inthenip wrote: »

I doubt the pubs will be back open the 21st now.

Why ? They're opening subject to any local restrictions.

Was mentioned in todays papers that government want people if meeting socially to do so in controlled environments such as pubs and not in houses.

They'll open

Gael23 · 12-09-2020 05:49PM

Keeping a few back for a nice high number when they announce new restrictions on Tuesday

Manitoban · 12-09-2020 05:49PM

Did anyone hear what’s going on in Louth? 15 a few days ago, then 17 yesterday and 10 today.

stephenjmcd · 12-09-2020 05:49PM

Seamai wrote: »

There seems to be backlogs once or twice every week now

Yes been following it for a long time but usually Saturday is a day that it works itself out with cases from Sunday & Monday spilling into Tuesday.

Ficheall · 12-09-2020 05:52PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Was mentioned in todays papers that government want people if meeting socially to do so in controlled environments such as pubs and not in houses.

This seems to be the UK approach - you're not allowed to meet friends in your house, but you are allowed to meet them in the pub. Doesn't make any sense to me. I can keep far more distance between myself and a friend at home than I can in a pub (assuming I want to be able to hear them), and I can completely avoid the scores of other potentially infected people.

I realise it's good for the economy to force people to go to the pub and not allow them to stay at home, but come on...

DebDynamite · 12-09-2020 05:52PM

Ficheall wrote: »

As a matter of interest, did lockdown help you realise they weren't the one for you? iirc, divorce rates increased in China after the lockdown.

Especially if they die.

I’m not even saying to open everything up. I’m just trying to say from a human psychology perspective, why it’s difficult for some people to say “ok, let’s just give it the year”. We are all in the same storm, but we are not in the same boat.

12-09-2020 05:53PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It infected up.to 900 million and only killed 1 million when living conditions and health care very basic. That's actually made me more optimistic about this. Thanks good info.

When life expectancy was in the 40’s. i.e. there were few old people to catch it

stephenjmcd · 12-09-2020 05:53PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Keeping a few back for a nice high number when they announce new restrictions on Tuesday

What restrictions?

The kite flying has begun, looks like several hundred will be allowed into sports fixtures, larger stadiums potential 5,000 but still tbc.

Entire country to be assigned level 2 according to Irish times and independent

Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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