Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

ChikiChiki · 12-09-2020 02:38PM

Incredible video from the states. Such a fundamental lack of understanding on the implications of mixing and the spread of the virus.

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1304502679482310659?s=19

caveat emptor · 12-09-2020 02:47PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Not being one to usually agree with the poster Caveat Emptor, at least 50% of his links are to studies and reports based on real world data, compiled by clinicians and scientists from all around the world.

Thanks raind, I certainly try to post stuff which is better than my anonymous opinion. I respect your thoughtful disagreement and improves the debate although we rarely agree. Sometimes things posted are wrong unbeknownst to me but it's important that it's discussed. This thing is so new it's a continuous challenge to keep up with it and understand the implications of developments.

P.S the restaurant thing being 2X more likely was statistically significant but it wasn't a distribution. It's an odds ratio, i.e comparison between two likelyhoods.
We were both wrong and right.

i.e say people who didn't go to a restaurant are 5% likely to contract covid.
whereas those who do go to a restaurant are 10% likely to contract covid.

You can say they are twice as likely. The confidence interval on the comparison was very large which is what I was getting at. The lower bound was 2X though.

context
https://twitter.com/linseymarr/status/1304104615730991106?s=20

DebDynamite · 12-09-2020 03:03PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Incredible video from the states. Such a fundamental lack of understanding on the implications of mixing and the spread of the virus.

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1304502679482310659?s=19

Jesus wept. That’s the level of stupidity we’re dealing with. Interesting that the cops could find out someone was positive from their database. There’d be riots if they tried to bring something like that in here!

On the other hand, there seemed to be no bother on the whole house who tested positive. They looked fit and well.

Away With The Fairies · 12-09-2020 03:08PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Incredible video from the states. Such a fundamental lack of understanding on the implications of mixing and the spread of the virus.

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1304502679482310659?s=19

America is fcuked. I saw another video on YouTube where one girl was talking about her experience with covid. She was staying at her boyfriend's house and was recovering at the boyfriend's house and because he didn't have symptoms, he continued to work!!!

spookwoman · 12-09-2020 03:08PM

eigrod wrote: »

9 in ICU now. 50 in hospital.

https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/pages/hospitals-icu--testing

52 in hospital now, ICU still at 9

Non solum non ambulabit · 12-09-2020 03:13PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

On the other hand, there seemed to be no bother on the whole house who tested positive. They looked fit and well.

Idiots but yes didn't seem too sick

ChikiChiki · 12-09-2020 03:18PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

Jesus wept. That’s the level of stupidity we’re dealing with. Interesting that the cops could find out someone was positive from their database. There’d be riots if they tried to bring something like that in here!

On the other hand, there seemed to be no bother on the whole house who tested positive. They looked fit and well.

Yeah it's the fact though that they thought nothing of having people over and then sending them on their way so nonchantly that doesn't sit well.

Likelyhood is these guys have been in liquor stores and everything else in between. Obviously this crowd are fit an healthy to fight it but their actions are completely wrong.

It does come across like they don't understand how easily transmission happens. Even the cop was way more calm than he should have been.

Benimar · 12-09-2020 03:23PM

250 positive swabs on 12,226 tests. 2.04% positivity

12-09-2020 03:26PM

arrianalexander wrote: »

Flu season hasn't kicked in yet so the number would be very low to zero I'd imagine

I see your point and when flu season kicks in there would be nice to see a comparison

(As with other illnesses)

As for young people and the flu been more dangerous. For those who are infected with coivid and are affected, they will probably (imo) have longer effects of it v a long dose of a flu.

I live with someone who is in their early 30s (not sure if that's regarded a young )

Had the aussie flu few years back and was knocked for two weeks , I had it aswell. (It was then I learnt the big difference between a cold and a flu)
Took another two weeks before she felt ok again so in total a month.

She contracted coivid in May , was confined to bed for nearly three weeks. And now can't walk up stairs without losing her breathe. Her immune system is now very poor picking up infections quite easily. (The chemist knows us by name now unfortunately)

I hope I don't come across as shooting you down, you had valid points, I was just giving my view and my experience.

I'm 35-44 age bracket and I have never had flu in my life as far as I know. Colds maybe 2 in last 20 years. Never been off sick in work with a cold in my life or bed ridden Maybe this will go against me. Who knows...

Your poor friend. Just shows you nobody is immune. You did,nt pick it up then?

Oranage2 · 12-09-2020 03:26PM

Benimar wrote: »

250 positive swabs on 12,226 tests. 2.04% positivity

OMG Dreading tonight figures now. We're not far off February and May's figures

stephenjmcd · 12-09-2020 03:28PM

Benimar wrote: »

250 positive swabs on 12,226 tests. 2.04% positivity

Should be fairly close to whats announced so. Little backlog if any I think

Roots 2020 · 12-09-2020 03:28PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

OMG Dreading tonight figures now. We're not far off February and May's figures

Stop the hyperbole.

drunkmonkey · 12-09-2020 03:29PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Yeah it's the fact though that they thought nothing of having people over and then sending them on their way so nonchantly that doesn't sit well.

Likelyhood is these guys have been in liquor stores and everything else in between. Obviously this crowd are fit an healthy to fight it but their actions are completely wrong.

It does come across like they don't understand how easily transmission happens. Even the cop was way more calm than he should have been.

So has anyone else with Covid, there's a lot of questions around the PCR testing, you can get a positive results up to 78 days with one. It doesn't mean your sick or were ever sick, it's the test picking up some remaining rna. The UK are going back to look at their previously positive tests now probably with a number revision in mind.
The big thing to take away is a positive test does not mean you have active covid. It's why the daily numbers are pointless in relation to cases.

giveitholly · 12-09-2020 03:29PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

OMG Dreading tonight figures now. We're not far off February and May's figures

Which is it,February or May's figures? Had we even any cases in February?

DangerScouse · 12-09-2020 03:31PM

Benimar wrote: »

250 positive swabs on 12,226 tests. 2.04% positivity

Good lord that's a high number.

Was hoping to see sub 100

blowitupref · 12-09-2020 03:31PM

Benimar wrote: »

250 positive swabs on 12,226 tests. 2.04% positivity

Another big testing number for a 24 hr period. Last 4 Saturdays had 231, 156,174 and 200 cases. I'd expect at least 200 cases reported tonight.

stephenjmcd · 12-09-2020 03:32PM

DangerScouse wrote: »

Good lord that's a high number.

Was hoping to see sub 100

Sub 100 with the amount of tests being carried out ? Not a chance on recent trends

stephenjmcd · 12-09-2020 03:33PM

Roots 2020 wrote: »

Stop the hyperbole.

Same sort of posts every afternoon

12-09-2020 03:33PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

OMG Dreading tonight figures now. We're not far off February and May's figures

But no deaths.

Benimar · 12-09-2020 03:36PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Should be fairly close to whats announced so. Little backlog if any I think

There may be a handful (a dozen or so) but should be fairly close to whats announced - assuming they don't hold some back!

12-09-2020 03:36PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

You dismissed Professor Carl earlier and he's still practicing weekly, now we're knocking the clinical director. I'd assume he sticks his head in the door and has an idea what's happening.
You have to stop finding reason to ignore professionals. Why your hell bent on following the misery guts brigade is beyond me.
Were on the road back to Normal, hold on tight.

I think some people are still traumatised by Mar May deaths. The penny will just take longer to drop for some that this may will be over.

12-09-2020 03:37PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

That's the 3rd doctor today you've dismissed and there more than just your average country GP. The penny has to drop at some stage you may be misinterpreting the situation and people on the ground involved with treating parentis could be correct.

I am dismissing those on all sides who cherry pick who to reference. 3 doctors may be providing some suggestions that they believe this is not very serious, or has passed, however most do not. Spain are still experiencing a death rate over 1%

stephenjmcd · 12-09-2020 03:38PM

Benimar wrote: »

There may be a handful (a dozen or so) but should be fairly close to whats announced - assuming they don't hold some back!

Thats true, first Saturday in a while where there isn't a large number to come in from during the week

GooglePlus · 12-09-2020 03:40PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Should be fairly close to whats announced so. Little backlog if any I think

They'll probably announce 100 cases today and tomorrow only to scare the bejaysus out of everyone with 500+ on Tuesday.

drunkmonkey · 12-09-2020 03:41PM

Seems like a big crowd at the yellow jacket parade..

https://twitter.com/Gargle29/status/1304791082367057920?s=20

https://twitter.com/pbmosligo/status/1304791997375541248?s=20

12-09-2020 03:41PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

OMG Dreading tonight figures now. We're not far off February and May's figures

May not be a long way off those numbers in reports, but in real terms we are detecting 10x what we were a few months ago. Most people with symptoms were not even tested early in the pandemic

wowzer · 12-09-2020 03:43PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Thats true, first Saturday in a while where there isn't a large number to come in from during the week

Also the first Saturday in a long time that there has been 250 positive swabs in a 24hr period. Things are going in the wrong direction.

DangerScouse · 12-09-2020 03:45PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Seems like a big crowd at the yellow jacket parade..

https://twitter.com/Gargle29/status/1304791082367057920?s=20

https://twitter.com/pbmosligo/status/1304791997375541248?s=20

Was wondering why the thread was so quiet today.

spookwoman · 12-09-2020 03:45PM

Discrepancy in the numbers again for week total testing of 137

Total Tests = 961,579 (Hospital)352,244, (Labs)609,132
Total Positive = 34,064 @3.5% Today = 250
24hr Total tests = 12,226 , Week total on hub is 71,685. Should be 71,822. Week positive is now at 1.8%.

OscarMIlde · 12-09-2020 03:47PM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

Shut down polluting power stations, ban polluting cars, remove plastic from the food system, remove chemicals from the food system, ban alcohol and smoking, ban processes sugar, the list is endless. All of these measures would save 10s of thousands of lives a year in Ireland alone

People are bitching because pubs were closed for a few months due to a pandemic, how on earth do you think the level of societal change you are looking for would be received by the general public?

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