How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

youngblood · 11-09-2020 06:37PM

Grandeeod wrote: »

If true, then that is so very careless.

Reported on Morning Ireland this, in news from the new roadmap being finalised and stages to be announced next Tuesday
Current Roadmap was due to end on the 13th but now extended by 2 days

utmbuilder · 11-09-2020 06:44PM

patsman07 wrote: »

utmbuilder,
From your entire post you seem very anxious about the whole situation. If you are a parent of a child in school you are unlikely to be old enough for your age to be a risk factor. I hope you and your family have none of the underlying conditions that cause issues with Covid. If that is the case I would worry that your anxiety is causing you to worry excessively. A relative of mine is hasn't left her house since March and no amount of re-assurance over the phone seems to help her. Contact your GP if you think you might have similar tendencies.

Thanks, yes i suffer from anxiety although its normally under control. We are extremely lucky as my spouse is 35 and im 38, other than having a bit of a gut and a touch of asthma we are all healthy.

I know other people have it way worse than us. Appreciate your experience in school, thank you so much for taking the time to reply.

I'll assure the test is done asap.

AUDI20 · 11-09-2020 06:55PM

Double O Seven wrote: »

It was madness to close the schools in the first place.

I totally disagree, it was the perfect breeding ground for this virus to be transmitted if they had been left open.

s1ippy · 11-09-2020 06:58PM

AUDI20 wrote: »

I totally disagree, it was the perfect breeding ground for this virus to be transmitted if they had been left open.

As opposed to now when it's completely fine!

Not a slight on you btw, you're completely right.

ceadaoin. · 11-09-2020 07:05PM

Normal colds and other viruses haven't gone away so chances are its probably that. Probably worse with the fact that our kids haven't been exposed to as many bugs this year as usual. Theyre bound to catch everything going once they start mixing again but even if they do catch covid, the effects on children are minimal and that is a verified fact. Try not to get too anxious, being in school is good for them in the longterm. Hope your child is OK and feels better soon, but you should get them tested just to be sure.

11-09-2020 07:07PM

Same here. Kids got the sniffles on Monday. One of them a cough Tuesday . Called the gp. No temp. Course of antibiotics just in case it's needed. Keep them home for 48 hours. They were back in class Thursday.

They were at a party on Saturday. Boumcy Castle, no jackets, no shoes, no socks. Feet were blue and they werent cold:)

Van.Bosch · 11-09-2020 07:23PM

SouthWesterly wrote: »

Same here. Kids got the sniffles on Monday. One of them a cough Tuesday . Called the gp. No temp. Course of antibiotics just in case it's needed. Keep them home for 48 hours. They were back in class Thursday.

They were at a party on Saturday. Boumcy Castle, no jackets, no shoes, no socks. Feet were blue and they werent cold:)

Same except GP sent him for a test.

PhoenixParker · 11-09-2020 07:31PM

s1ippy wrote: »

As opposed to now when it's completely fine!

Not a slight on you btw, you're completely right.

When the schools closed the presumption was that children were a big vector of transmission in society as that is the way with most bugs. Without strong evidence in either direction for covid specifically they leaned toward playing it safe and the schools were closed.

The evidence which has emerged since very strongly suggests that covid isn't spread easily by young children (the jury is still out on older kids). Therefore now evidence suggests it is indeed completely fine for creches and primary schools to be open. Secondary I'm personally not so sure about.

Murple · 11-09-2020 07:54PM

youngblood wrote: »

As of yesterday, 52 & 1 pre school

According to new reports, schools will not be closing again, regardless of how serious the spread becomes

It’s now 61 schools and 3 preschools with confirmed cases.

Locotastic · 11-09-2020 08:08PM

BonsaiKitten wrote: »

I feel as I did back then. Happy to be back but frustrated that the government have put in no real supports for schools. Also very annoyed that vulnerable teachers, students and families have been ignored.

I think they really let the ball drop on contingency plans and continuity for kids as well if they are out sick, or awaiting tests or self isolating which we are seeing plenty of this week.

They could have easily matched vulnerable teachers to an online education programme so that basic curriculum is still covered if kids can't go to school.

screamer · 11-09-2020 08:39PM

Again, time will tell with these things, schools only open a set week. Older kids can transmit the virus as readily as adults and under 5s have the highest viral load in their nasal passages...... but kids are generally healthier with stronger immune systems, it’s the risk to vulnerable family members which we all need to try and mitigate

11-09-2020 08:47PM

Murple wrote: »

It’s now 61 schools and 3 preschools with confirmed cases.

Some of them will surely start dropping of the list soon as the 14 days will be up

LilyShame · 11-09-2020 08:58PM

Plenty of kids out already with headcolds. In a way we are over cautious but it's understandable.. No one person wants to be blame for C getting into a classroom... But it's going to mean a huge amount of absences. For parents working at home it's almost incentive to keep child at home. But once the directive changes to All workers back to an office, its going to be a very different story. Will the 20 day absence alert per child be changed or scrapped for this year? Plenty of kids will have reached their quota by January!

khalessi · 11-09-2020 09:19PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Some of them will surely start dropping of the list soon as the 14 days will be up

As long as they dont spread it either in school or at home, which according to CDC is possible

https://twitter.com/AliNouriPhD/status/1304475776935440385

facehugger99 · 11-09-2020 09:38PM

irishblessing wrote: »

Well I'll be pulling my kids if it's a serious spread, as I suspect many others will do. They will need to address it.

Excellent, hopefully there’ll be plenty more like you.

Smaller classroom sizes and more focused teaching for my kids.

byhookorbycrook · 11-09-2020 09:40PM

PhoenixParker wrote: »

When the schools closed the presumption was that children were a big vector of transmission in society as that is the way with most bugs. Without strong evidence in either direction for covid specifically they leaned toward playing it safe and the schools were closed.

The evidence which has emerged since very strongly suggests that covid isn't spread easily by young children (the jury is still out on older kids). Therefore now evidence suggests it is indeed completely fine for creches and primary schools to be open. Secondary I'm personally not so sure about.

Evidence shows that young children can spread Covid is now available .And they can and do become seriously ill.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/toddler-with-covid-19-being-treated-in-intensive-care-39516866.html

Beasty · 11-09-2020 09:55PM

Threads merged

irishblessing · 11-09-2020 10:05PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

Excellent, hopefully there’ll be plenty more like you.

Smaller classroom sizes and more focused teaching for my kids.

Kinda like how it would be if the government did right by it's citizens and offered a hybrid remote learning plan or reduced the classes from the largest size in Europe anyway! :pac::rolleyes:

Since you're all for reduced class sizes, have you/will you be pushing your local TD to fight for this?

freak scence · 11-09-2020 10:08PM

health gimps blaming everything bar opening schools for new spike , they will be blaming cowen next

khalessi · 11-09-2020 10:16PM

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

Evidence shows that young children can spread Covid is now available .And they can and do become seriously ill.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/toddler-with-covid-19-being-treated-in-intensive-care-39516866.html

CDC would agree
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6937e3.htm?s_cid=mm6937e3_w

Icyseanfitz · 12-09-2020 09:16AM

freak scence wrote: »

health gimps blaming everything bar opening schools for new spike , they will be blaming cowen next

We all know that once a person enters a school building they are no longer human

khalessi · 12-09-2020 09:34AM

Ya know women and people aged 25-44 now at centre in rise of Covid according to the Irish Independent. What jobs would they have I wonder. It would be great if they would mention the ocuupations.

meeeeh · 12-09-2020 09:46AM

irishblessing wrote: »

Kinda like how it would be if the government did right by it's citizens and offered a hybrid remote learning plan or reduced the classes from the largest size in Europe anyway! :pac::rolleyes:

Since you're all for reduced class sizes, have you/will you be pushing your local TD to fight for this?

Is there a list of countries by class size? Everyone say clases in Ireland are the biggest but I never saw the source of that info.

giveitholly · 12-09-2020 09:47AM

khalessi wrote: »

Ya know women and people aged 25-44 now at centre in rise of Covid according to the Irish Independent. What jobs would they have I wonder. It would be great if they would mention the ocuupations.

Why does it matter what occupation they have?

KaneToad · 12-09-2020 09:50AM

giveitholly wrote: »

Why does it matter what occupation they have?

They might be...y'know.... primary school teachers...

khalessi · 12-09-2020 09:50AM

giveitholly wrote: »

Why does it matter what occupation they have?

Well we know some are in meat factories which are male dominated occupations and there are a lot of female dominated occupations, that I would be curious to see if they are represented especially since it is since in the week up to September 4th.

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/dublin-on-a-knife-edge-as-fears-grow-that-cases-may-double-in-a-fortnight-39524774.html

KaneToad · 12-09-2020 09:53AM

LilyShame wrote: »

. But once the directive changes to All workers back to an office, its going to be a very different story!

All those who can/want to work from home should do so indefinitely. Covid aside, it's a huge positive for environment, society and local communities for this policy to persist.

giveitholly · 12-09-2020 09:55AM

KaneToad wrote: »

They might be...y'know.... primary school teachers...

And....... y'know.......they might not be......

caveat emptor · 12-09-2020 09:56AM

facehugger99 wrote: »

Excellent, hopefully there’ll be plenty more like you.

Smaller classroom sizes and more focused teaching for my kids.

Hope there are no long term consequences to this. Might be tricky to explain in years to come.

khalessi · 12-09-2020 09:57AM

giveitholly wrote: »

And....... y'know.......they might not be......

So true so why not now give occupations to give a clearer picture.

How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

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