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Near Misses Thread Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • #692
    crosstownk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    One big disadvantage to parking on the right hand side of the road.
    VonLuck wrote: »
    Not defending the driver at all, but I can see how it happens. Car pillars can easily block the view of a cyclist when they're a much smaller object than a moving vehicle. Need to be doubly sure when you look over your shoulder for oncoming traffic.

    In some states in the US it's an offence to park on the opposite side of the road. The video above certainly shows the reasoning for such a law.
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  • #693
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,876 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I had to pick up some stuff earlier from near Park West so rather than take the car, I hopped on the bike and got in a bit of exercise.
    Typical! Met Eireann app tells me no rain due but of course there was plenty.

    On my way home, this bin lorry came a bit close at Adamstown. At the time it felt bad, especially the second pass.
    Looking back at the footage, I'm having second thoughts about it - am I just used to close passes or was he too close in your view?
    https://streamable.com/zi8euf
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  • #694
    DeadSkin
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    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    I had to pick up some stuff earlier from near Park West so rather than take the car, I hopped on the bike and got in a bit of exercise.
    Typical! Met Eireann app tells me no rain due but of course there was plenty.

    On my way home, this bin lorry came a bit close at Adamstown. At the time it felt bad, especially the second pass.
    Looking back at the footage, I'm having second thoughts about it - am I just used to close passes or was he too close in your view?
    https://streamable.com/zi8euf

    The rear view of the second pass looks bad - to answer your question in the video I think he is fckin stupid.
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  • #695
    Seth Brundle
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    suffering golfer wrote: »
    Took up cycling to work during the lockdown. Thankfully no near miss until this morning. Going straight through a four way junction with the lights in my favour. Taxi coming in the opposite direction turning right somehow didn't see me and turned on me, missing by millimeters. Think he genuinely didn't see me but really dumb move.
    You must have done somehting wrong because a taxi driver is a professional driver and therefore surely wouldn't drive without due care and attention.
    :D
    suffering golfer wrote: »
    Main cause of ire for me is the teenagers using phones when cycling. Seen a few of them around and they are a goddamned menace to themselves and other users. Have no common sense whatsoever!! I almost knock over one or two off them when they suddenly swerve on the road. Seem to be popular on Amiens street and North Strand road for some reason.
    Just give teenagers a wide berth if you see them.
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  • #696
    magicbastarder
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    general advice for life in general, not just cycling?
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  • #697
    irlirishkev
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    magicbastarder wrote: »
    general advice for life in general, not just cycling?

    Beat me to it :D
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  • #698
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,876 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    general advice for life in general, not just cycling?
    Being the owner of two teenagers, I'd say it's general advice for life! :D
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  • #699
    Duckjob
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    CramCycle wrote: »
    Took me by surprise as well but it made a miserable day into an acceptable one, and to be honest, it was all I needed after a rough week. It's amazing the power of a kind word.

    ...especially from a most unlikely source :D
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  • #700
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,876 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Meanwhile in the UK, the West Mercia Police show that cycling on a road is just too dangerous for their officers (it's worth looking at her other responses in the twitter thread)...

    https://twitter.com/SuptBrighton/status/1305471453811310592
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  • #701
    Seth Brundle
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    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Does that mean all drugs busts are cancelled too.
    I'm trying hard to come up with something funny but I simply can't think of anything funnier than her statement to the public.
    Tragic but funny!
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  • #702
    5uspect
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    Hope you get well soon and that driver gets what they deserve.
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  • #703
    Johnny Jukebox
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    barrier86 wrote: »
    Thanks for the well wishes.

    Once the investigation has been complete and finalised I’ll give the details of the outcome on here.

    To echo a previous poster; sounds like the driver is being a pr1ck here - I'd advise to lawyer up and let them worry about all the legals etc. - you'll have enough on your plate getting back to full health.
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  • #704
    Traumadoc
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    barrier86 wrote: »
    Thanks for the well wishes.

    Once the investigation has been complete and finalised I’ll give the details of the outcome on here.

    Keep a diary/record on mobile phone of all the things you cannot do as well as analgesia and all the extra costs eg taxis to physio /fracture clinics- keep all receipts.


    It will make things a lot easier when you submit for medical assessment/costs
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  • #705
    Seth Brundle
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    Just saw this on twitter (supposedly yesterday despite the date in the tweet)...
    https://twitter.com/hevehan/status/1306162418800889856
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  • #706
    magicbastarder
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    could have been a miscreant fleeing the rozzers.
    i once saw a fairly full on crash which happened during a car chase. was very lucky that there was no-one injured.
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  • #707
    Breezer
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    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    Just saw this on twitter (supposedly yesterday despite the date in the tweet)...
    https://twitter.com/hevehan/status/1306162418800889856

    That cycle lane is madness. I was nearly knocked off years ago on the equally bad other side of the road, by someone driving exactly like that.

    I take the lane there now, or deviate through the park (it’s not my commute; I tend to meander out that way on a weekend). Not sure that a**hole would even have seen someone taking the lane at the speed he was going!
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  • #708
    crosstownk
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    I've a fair bit of tolerance for close passes. Having spent many years commuting across Dublin City from Terenure to Swords, and even more years cycling up and down the N81 with all the HGVs that road has to offer, I've experienced many close passes from all types of vehicles. Some have been scary, most have been annoying. Maybe I'm too tolerant but I've never felt the need to report any incident via Traffic Watch.

    Until yesterday.

    I was travelling south on East Wall Road towards the Tom Clarke (East Link) Bridge. Yes, there's a cycle track but the surface is crap and strewn with glass, flint, stones, etc so I stuck to the road as I've done many times before.

    An articulated truck drawing a container on a flatbed trailer, passed me with less than 20cm to spare. I'm not easily frightened but this really scared the crap out of me. I froze, stopped pedaling, held a straight line, uttered "fcuking hell" in a worried tone and waited for it to clear my elbow which, thankfully, it did without incident. The truck stopped at the roundabout 50m later. WTF?

    I contemplated following the truck to the toll plaza and confronting the driver but decided to leave it. However, unlike most other close passes this one really bothered me so I left it to sleep on it. I woke up this morning and it was still bothering me so I called Traffic Watch for the first time. I got a call back this evening and the Garda seemed sound. He'll get back to me next week.
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  • #709
    5uspect
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Saw this one on stickybottle over the weekend, some of the replies beggar belief

    https://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/irish-club-cyclists-head-on-close-pass-with-tractor-trailer-no-reg-plates-video/

    I live just around the corner. Lots of people cycle and stroll along that road. We bring our children down there in the cargo bike regularly.
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  • #710
    Breezer
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    Aegir wrote: »
    It’s supposedly a QBC. Why it hasn’t got some form of CCTV monitoring is daft.

    I’d hate to see the quality of the bus that fits in that corridor! The bus lane, without the cycle lane bit, is about a metre wide at some points. They’ve actually altered the “Lána Bus” markings to make them fit. It’s like they’ve been skewed in Microsoft Paint or something.

    Does any QBC have CCTV monitoring?
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  • #711
    Dr_Colossus
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    Dr_Colossus wrote: »
    That old nugget of the roundabout at the Castleknock end of Chesterfield Avenue again this morning, coming from Farmleigh direction and taking the 3rd exit onto Chesterfield Avenue. 06:30 in the morning with little traffic but a sleepy woman in a <snip> grey BMW decides to ignore the strong front light (was flashed earlier by an oncoming driver that took umbrage with it) and continue into the roundabout without yielding. I let a roar and she braked hard stopping the car halfway through and I continue on noting the reg. No wave of an apology or any acknowledgment, just totally transfixed on the car in front and never looked.

    Still the most dangerous section of my commute which includes the full length of the quays and this supposed to be a recreational park. The hard should in the park as the cycle lane is a great improvement but they need to replace the unsightly cones with a permanent solution. Going through the park yesterday evening and a car clipped one of the cones in the cycle lanes sending it a good 0.5m inwards, if a cyclists was inline they’d have been felled.

    Same roundabout again this morning, 04 Donegal modified car (reg, exhaust etc) enters the roundabout without yielding but finally stops with the front end well onto the roundabout. I continue without taking much more notice until 20 mins later see the same car to my left sitting at O’Connell bridge (left turn only) trying to gun it straight onto Eden Quay. Straight they go followed by breaking a red light at Butt Bridge before being caught at the next red light just after Custom House. I note also the NCTS site shows their NCT was due back in Apr and from experience with my own car site has all Covid extensions included but at least they have a test scheduled. Could I be bothered reporting to TrafficWatch tough (maybe if they had an online facility) but where’s all the extra police presence on the streets of Dublin.
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  • #712
    hesker
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    TheChizler wrote: »
    Got practically forced off the road by an oncoming Landcruiser on the way home from work this afternoon, they were swerving around the "pedestrian area, no cars" sign blocking their lane and decided they were more entitled to the side of the road I was on than I was. Didn't realise they weren't turning right until the last second and I kind of just automatically moved of the way but I got progresively more annoyed until I got home. It's widely known that the marina in Cork is closed to traffic and they thought nothing of forcing a more vulnerable road user out of the way so they wouldn't have to slow down.

    Should I ring Traffic Watch?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU29CPjFXBw

    I had a scary encounter at that very spot a couple of years ago. Travelling in same direction as you and a 4x4 waiting to turn right across me at the junction. Only she didn’t wait and started creeping across as I approached until I had to swerve left to avoid being hit. Bloody scary.

    Up to you if you want to report. Definite impatience there from the driver.
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  • #713
    Breezer
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    breezy1985 wrote: »
    I keep trying to explain to driver I know that often this cycling infrastructure will help them too by getting us out of their way

    You’re up against it with some people. I had a “discussion” with my mother at the weekend, in the course of which she insisted that all the new cycles lanes she has to pay for are too wide and too narrow, and there’s too many of them taking up road space, and they need to put more in because cyclists, including kids, are having to go down the middle of the road when there’s none there.

    Now I think of it, half of that was positive. I ended up being wrong anyway, though.
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  • #714
    Alanstrainor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    Alanstrainor wrote: »
    I rewatched and my blood is boiling. Just off the phone with the extremely helpful traffic watch. Call logged there, but she suggested I go straight to the station given contact was made, and this was more likely a hit and run rather than a dangerous overtake. One way or another I should have contact from Gardai soon.

    I'd like to show the video, but for now I'll sit on it before posting it online.

    Just a small update on this. I have had one call from a Garda, it was only 2 days after the incident, so no complaints on timing. I explained again what happened in this incident and was then asked what would I like the Gardai to do. This was a bit unexpected honestly, and I responded as such. The Gard suggested maybe having a chat with the driver, to which I pushed back and reiterated that there was contact made in this pass, and that there was a 'Dangerous Pass of Cyclists' penalty point offence. I did mention that given there was contact I wondered if this more than a dangerous pass, to which I had no real response.

    Not much else was said, just a question of whether I was willing to give a statement to which I said I was, and I would be willing to do whatever was required. I did pass on the video footage via email, and I have since been asked if I could transfer it to a USB stick, all through email.

    So in short, they have seen the footage and have asked if I can provide a physical copy. A fast start, but I feel things are starting to drag now. I wonder how long this will take.
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  • #715
    magicbastarder
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    what i suspect it is - spitballing here - is that there's a cohort of gardai, who when there's a prang between cars are likely to expect the motorists to just go to the insurance company if necessary, why involve the gardai?
    but they don't see an issue with that 'no harm no foul' approach when it comes to cyclists.
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  • #716
    5uspect
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    You’ll get Gardai that are very proactive and take you seriously but more likely they treat you as if you’re wasting their time.

    One told me that the standard of driving in Ireland was awful and then with a straight face that I’d have to be knocked of the bike for him to do anything.

    I flat out asked him was I just wasting his time reporting such incidents and he said I should continue to do so. Something has to change regarding roads policing in Ireland.
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  • #717
    Alanstrainor
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    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Just curious - did you sent them a low-res version by email or a link to an uploaded version? I've had different responses like 'oh, you can't put it anywhere on d'Internet, even with a private link'. Their email limit seems to be 10mb, which doesn't give much scope for video.

    Sent a link to an unlisted youtube video. Which they watched on their phone from the looks of the youtube stats. As you say, there was no other way to send it, as email limits are tiny, and linking to a file sharing site wouldn't be ideal.

    There was no push back on receiving the youtube link, just a request for the file on a USB after. Fingers crossed it doesn't cause any issues.
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  • #718
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,876 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Thanks, I've done that myself in the past too. More recently, I've got the 'oh no, it couldn't be up on the Internet in any form' before going to Court.
    . They really need a simple way of submitting video, hopefully one not owned by a commercial vendor such as Nextbase as done by some UK police forces.
    I submitted this one I previously posted about via email at the Garda's request.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=113259042&postcount=1314
    The Garda was great and the driver has apparently been done on a charge that will have a longer impact on their record.

    In saying that, I've submitted statements along with hard copy video evidence and the response from AGS has been complete silence. I think it really depends on who you get behind the counter in the station. Some gardai will keep you in the loop whereas others simply don't care. I've a garda in Lucan who has called me up two or three times regarding an incident to give me updates (the delays aren't his fault).

    Given the technology should be really cheap to impliment, it should be easy to roll out. However, in this country you'll still have to make the formal statement because evidence on video isn't "stand-alone" evidence. It is merely a backup to your written statement, so even with a tech solution, you still have to go to the station and watch the garda write out the stupid description of how you got scared by the drivers actions.
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  • #719
    DeadSkin
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    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    I submitted this one I previously posted about via email at the Garda's request.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=113259042&postcount=1314
    The Garda was great and the driver has apparently been done on a charge that will have a longer impact on their record.

    In saying that, I've submitted statements along with hard copy video evidence and the response from AGS has been complete silence. I think it really depends on who you get behind the counter in the station. Some gardai will keep you in the loop whereas others simply don't care. I've a garda in Lucan who has called me up two or three times regarding an incident to give me updates (the delays aren't his fault).

    Given the technology should be really cheap to impliment, it should be easy to roll out. However, in this country you'll still have to make the formal statement because evidence on video isn't "stand-alone" evidence. It is merely a backup to your written statement, so even with a tech solution, you still have to go to the station and watch the garda write out the stupid description of how you got scared by the drivers actions.

    Was the passenger charged with anything?
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  • #720
    Seth Brundle
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    DeadSkin wrote: »
    Was the passenger charged with anything?
    Not to my knowledge. My understanding is that it could possibly be construed that they were simply re-closing the door if you follow me.
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  • #721
    DeadSkin
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    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    Not to my knowledge. My understanding is that it could possibly be construed that they were simply re-closing the door if you follow me.

    My ar$e :eek::pac: - the door was closed when they left the lights.
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