2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

biko wrote: »

Out of these two then Trump, I doubt Biden will be a better president and that Trump has broken a 39-year-old streak of American Presidents either starting a war or bringing the United States into an international armed conflict.

Whereas Biden helped start the Iraq war, Trump is now pulling out troops (just in time for election day as it happens).


You?

Trump is doing is damnedest to start one, only he's looking for it to take place on home soil.

Trumps strategy to not engage in foreign affairs of a security and military persuasion extended to letting Saudi Arabia away with killing and dismembering an American Citizen, allowing Russia to put bounties on US soldiers and abandoning the Kurds within the SDF in Syria.

Overheal wrote: »

Are we pretending that Obama and Biden didn’t withdraw troops, and weren’t crucified for doing so?

Apparently so, it seems they only sent troops in and now Trump is the saviour of those soldiers and will bring them all home. The fact he hasn't donenit yet is because he has been too busy but he promises he will get around to it any day now

biko wrote:

Out of these two then Trump, I doubt Biden will be a better president and that Trump has broken a 39-year-old streak of American Presidents either starting a war or bringing the United States into an international armed conflict.

Trump managed to potentially start a war, in America!

Bob Woodward sitting in a lifeboat, watching the Titanic sink:

“This seems like a good time to mention I have a recording of that iceberg letting us know it was gonna be in the way.”

This election has now become a battle between a Nobel Peace Prize nominee, and a nearly 80 year old loon whose best argument is "hey I'm not the other guy"

Leroy42 wrote: »

There are certainly a question on having such information, but would it really have made a difference?

Are people really of the view that Trump would have changed course if only people had known how serious it was? THere were plenty of people pointing out that exactly, and many questions were asked about either Trump knew and didn't care, or didn't know and therefore the US system of protection was completely broken. Neither was a good look for Trump.

Is there anybody really of the opinion that Trump wasn't fully aware of the reality?

But just as now, Trump would turn the argument to the journalist.

Instead of sitting on this for his millionth book, Bob Woodward should have taken a lesson from that journalist who helped bring down Nixon through aggressive daily reporting of the scandal to reveal crucial information to the public

the one Redford played

I forget his name

Wanderer78 wrote: »

hes certainly after bringing peace to his own country! what a sham! who really is the loon here?

In fairness Trump is not responsible for the actions of the superwoke. I'd imagine there's zero crossover between the superwoke and trump supporter base.

salmocab wrote: »

Yet the “Nearly 80 year old loon” Is far and away the better candidate.

Guess we'll see.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Instead of sitting on this for his millionth book, Bob Woodward should have taken a lesson from that journalist who helped bring down Nixon through aggressive daily reporting of the scandal to reveal crucial information to the public

the one Redford played

I forget his name

Would it though? We all saw the impeachment, where the GoP refused to even listen. The only 'news' to this book is that Trump openly admitted it on tape, nobody can be actually surprised that Trump knew the reality, surely?

Trump knew all about it but chose to downplay to try to keep the economy going long enough to get to the November election. You don't need a Woodword book to tell you that. All it does it 100% back it up.

Are you expecting Trump supporters to suddenly start ot take the virus seriously now? That people will stop going to rallies? Start wearing masks? That Trump will stop pretending that everything is perfrectly fine?

Fox News took the angle yesterday that it was somehow Graham fault, or the journalists fault. It is never Trump. It is never a question of his decisions.

When the story came out is irrelevant. It is nothing but a deflection tactic to try to shir the narrative away from POTUS who took a deliberate decision to put more people in harms way for the simple reason as to try to enhance his prospects of winning reelection.

ELM327 wrote: »

This election has now become a battle between a Nobel Peace Prize nominee, and a nearly 80 year old loon whose best argument is "hey I'm not the other guy"

It's been a while since I've seen so much hay made from so little.

He got a nomination from some crank and you'd swear that he actually won it.

salmocab wrote: »

Well labelling is the rights thing, lefty loons, libtards, sleepy joe, superwoke They use name calling as a weapon because otherwise their arsenal is pretty empty.

It's easier than making a well-reasoned defence.

mcmoustache wrote: »

It's been a while since I've seen so much hay made from so little.

He got a nomination from some crank and you'd swear that he actually won it.

How many Nobels have you been nominated for?

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

Looks like the Russians are up to no good again.

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1303979247980220417?s=19

The left and the MSM getting the excuses in already!

ELM327 wrote: »

The left and the MSM getting the excuses in already!

I suppose there'll have to be another collusion investigation when Trump wins!

ELM327 wrote: »

What term would you prefer for those who are "peacefully protesting" alleged endemic violence with burning looting mobs?

Are you saying all people who are exercising their constitutional guarded rights are all looters and rioters?

duploelabs wrote: »

Are you saying all people who are exercising their constitutional guarded rights are all looters and rioters?

Anyone excersising their right to peaceful protest, no. But these mobs are burning down buildings. That's not peaceful.

Wanderer78 wrote: »

these protests are clearly not peaceful, trump has played a critical role in inciting them, he has little or no interest in other humans, hes a typical cluster b narcissist, creates disruption by any means, ultimately for personal gain

Or these people could just, you know, not burn down and attack property and people who have actually bothered to work and build up a business. Or a nice house etc.