Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

bb1234567 · 09-09-2020 12:34PM

the merchant wrote: »

84 cases - 4 deaths

Are all the deaths from September ?

yourdeadwright · 09-09-2020 12:35PM

Just wonder what age do they count you as a a Kid ?
Under 18 or younger ?

JP Liz V1 · 09-09-2020 12:35PM

US2 wrote: »

The kid could be in ICU because of anything and happen to have covid. It's highly doubtful a healthy kid would be hospitalized nevermind ICU with Covid

Healthy kids died from it in the US

09-09-2020 12:35PM

DangerScouse wrote: »

Well iv'e had covid and i can guarantee you i was not grand after a few days. I went for my first run only this past Sunday after contracting the virus months ago. I wasn't at deaths door at any stage but i'm big enough to admit it scared the sh1t out of me in particular when i thought i was over the worst of it only for it to floor me again.

I can easily see that if for instance i didn't exercise or have a good diet i could have ended up in ICU or maybe worse. I guess i was unlucky and must have gotten a high viral load i don't know but i think it's a tad disingenuous to call it scaremongering by the media. This is not a pleasant virus to contract.

All that said i am very hopeful that somehow the virus isn't as letal now as it was when it first appeared on the scene.

Glad you are recovering and back running.

Of course we know it can be a serious illness and if I get I will be concerned and anxious.

Some of the media however are picking the most extreme cases at younger ages.

Some people recover quite quickly. Perspective and hope is needed also, whilst still being careful.

I'm certainly not saying it's the flu and open up nothing to see hear. Hopefully you get back to full health soon.

If you don't mind me asking do you know how you picked it up?

09-09-2020 12:36PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Some more information from HPSC on the cases by epidemiological date.

Note that despite days with 200+ cases being announced there hasn't been a day with 200+ cases assigned recently.

A small point but something worth stating.

It’s a very important chart. Especially when there is the need to combat misinformation, or at the very least the inaccurate interpretation of information. Based on this chart, the second “surge” has plateaued, and may go to explain why pubs openings are now being considered

US2 · 09-09-2020 12:36PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Healthy kids died from it in the US

Massively overweight kids from what I've read

JP Liz V1 · 09-09-2020 12:37PM

brick tamland wrote: »

Read the post you replied to.

according tho that article the are 45 kids in hospital with covid 19 even though the total in hospital for the whole country is 50.

Independent.ie on Twitter: "Three children with Covid-19 are being treated in intensive care https://t.co/RcqZkpJk1G https://t.co/PJbiI5lFzG" / Twitter
https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1303638095355686915

09-09-2020 12:39PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1303638095355686915

Is your intention to deliberately mislead? Troll? Or do you just not read your own sources?

podgeandrodge · 09-09-2020 12:42PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Spreading potential of some patients via breath? :eek::eek:

So...it's everywhere. Not much we can do about it. Wash hands. Live life!

caveat emptor wrote: »

Calm down. No need to panic just take precautions and you should be fine.

I'd be more worried if we take the option to live with it and we are in same situation next year. This is a corona virus, we get the others ever year. That's a distinct possibility if
there is no vaccine

no robust immunity

long term morbidity even with low mortality

No need to panic yet.

I think you have misunderstood my facetiousness for panic. Right now, I'm sick of all the "it's everywhere" studies. Fine, so it is. Now, must book pub for Friday!

Goldengirl · 09-09-2020 12:42PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

Can nobody see the sheer absurdity of what we are trying to do. We cannot keep people from engaging in social activity forever.
It is particularly absurd in the case of the younger generation, (teens and 20s), where there is an overwhelming need to engage in social activity, make new friends, form relationships etc.
When this crisis started it was generally assumed that the restrictions would be in place for a few months at most. Now the realisation is dawning that the virus is not going away and we are telling our young people that they must never meet new people or form new relationships or engage in normal social activity and must keep ‘social distancing’. We are telling our young people that these measures must be adhered to, not for a few weeks or months, but forever.
This deliberate attempt at the destruction of our social fabric will not work and should not work. It is contrary to nature.

It is tough, yes.
Not fair and very difficult especially for that age group.
It is asking a lot to protect others , and asking everybody to be selfless until there is a vaccine .

MerlinSouthDub · 09-09-2020 12:47PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I hope all 45 kids in hospital full recover from it

Positive news on that front. 44 of them are already out of hospital (as I'm sure you were already aware)

ACitizenErased · 09-09-2020 12:47PM

According to the HSE report last night there was 0 ICU COVID patients in any of the children hospitals.

ACitizenErased · 09-09-2020 12:47PM

Briefing is tonight, 6pm.

09-09-2020 12:48PM

Yesterday I contacted my GP surgery informing them I had developed an sharp exacerbation of a chronic sinus-asthma problem and am not feeling good, with cough etc, and thought it might be wise to have a Covid test. I have quite a medical history with heart issues etc. The youngest, newest GP in the practice, hitherto unknown to me, phoned me back and advised me a test was unnecessary,, that he would email the chemist with a prescription for amoxicillin, and that if that didn't work I could get tested. In the meantime, he advised, I can go out and about as normal with mask etc, but not to attend any night parties. This is Southside Dublin suburbs. Feeling worse today, just started the antibiotic, hoping he is right in his decision not to request testing. Personally I am more than glad not to be bothered with a prod up the nostrils, and I am reasonably sure it is indeed a bacterial infection, but looking at it objectively it think it is some chance he might be taking in view of its increasing prevalence in the capital.

Eod100 · 09-09-2020 12:49PM

https://twitter.com/RobOHanrahan/status/1303657200494182400?s=19

ACitizenErased · 09-09-2020 12:50PM

Eod100 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/RobOHanrahan/status/1303657200494182400?s=19

Simply scheduling reasons again apparently

stephenjmcd · 09-09-2020 12:54PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Independent.ie on Twitter: "Three children with Covid-19 are being treated in intensive care https://t.co/RcqZkpJk1G https://t.co/PJbiI5lFzG" / Twitter
https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1303638095355686915

Do you read the articles no ?

Its now been updated as it was incorrect

drunkmonkey · 09-09-2020 12:55PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

It is tough, yes.
Not fair and very difficult especially for that age group.
It is asking a lot to protect others , and asking everybody to be selfless until there is a vaccine .

There might never be one, the thinking coming out of SA now is that a lot of immunity out there from all the other coronavirus's that have been passed around.
We really shouldn't be sacraficing youth completely unfair on them and not sustainable. We done our bit saved the hospitals as asked now there about to bring in more Restrictions and laws, you can see the signalling happening were about to be asked to wear masks walking down the street.
Protests will get bigger and they'll end up losing control completely, you need people to buy in voluntary not by force.

You know if we acterd like this every winter we'd save lives, same with older people getting the flu and pneumonia jab. We can't continue to turn our lives upside down for something that has no impact on a lot of us, let the vunrable and health care workers take every precaution possible, the rest of us need to get on with things though and stopping living in fear of breathing the air around us.

DebDynamite · 09-09-2020 12:59PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Is your intention to deliberately mislead? Troll? Or do you just not read your own sources?

To be fair, it’s an absolute disgrace of a headline by the Indo. I’d say all the parent’s WhatsApp groups were blowing up after seeing it. Unfortunately if a newspaper reports something, some people cannot apply critical thinking to question it, and take it as gospel.

09-09-2020 12:59PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

There might never be one, the thinking coming out of SA now is that a lot of immunity out there from all the other coronavirus's that have been passed around.
We really shouldn't be sacraficing youth completely unfair on them and not sustainable. We done our bit saved the hospitals as asked now there about to bring in more Restrictions and laws, you can see the signalling happening were about to be asked to wear masks walking down the street.
Protests will get bigger and they'll end up losing control completely, you need people to buy in voluntary not by force.

You know if we acterd like this every winter we'd save lives, same with older people getting the flu and pneumonia jab. We can't continue to turn our lives upside down for something that has no impact on a lot of us, let the vunrable and health care workers take every precaution possible, the rest of us need to get on with things though and stopping living in fear of breathing the air around us.

Maybe if the media and the government didnt try and scare the **** out of the population in the first place and currently. There is very poor communication from government and rules sometimes that appear to make little sense.

I think a lot of the media in ireland have not come out of this looking well.

stephenjmcd · 09-09-2020 01:01PM

The UK is only to mandate bars and restaurants to collect contact details now. Up to now its been up to each establishment

Eod100 · 09-09-2020 01:03PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Simply scheduling reasons again apparently

Yup his next tweet said that alright. Dunno why they don't thread tweets on here.

Sconsey · 09-09-2020 01:07PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

There might never be one, the thinking coming out of SA now is that a lot of immunity out there from all the other coronavirus's that have been passed around.
We really shouldn't be sacraficing youth completely unfair on them and not sustainable. We done our bit saved the hospitals as asked now there about to bring in more Restrictions and laws, you can see the signalling happening were about to be asked to wear masks walking down the street.
Protests will get bigger and they'll end up losing control completely, you need people to buy in voluntary not by force.

You know if we acterd like this every winter we'd save lives, same with older people getting the flu and pneumonia jab. We can't continue to turn our lives upside down for something that has no impact on a lot of us, let the vunrable and health care workers take every precaution possible, the rest of us need to get on with things though and stopping living in fear of breathing the air around us.

How is wearing a mask stopping you getting on with things? are you covering your eyes instead of your mouth maybe :pac:

big syke · 09-09-2020 01:09PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

3 kids in ICU hope they all pull through

Cop on

Wolf359f · 09-09-2020 01:13PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I think the HPSC graph Stephen posted above that shows we haven’t crossed 200 actual reported cases on a single day shows that daily figures are becoming irrelevant.

Swab figure is actually more accurate than the new cases, that's how bad this 'backlog' has gotten. They should report the new cases followed by an updated chart of when the cases were identified. Paints a different picture.

drunkmonkey · 09-09-2020 01:15PM

Sconsey wrote: »

How is wearing a mask stopping you getting on with things? are you covering your eyes instead of your mouth maybe :pac:

You might think it's normal, I think it's retarded, no evidence to back it up. I want to live my life without wearing one. What happened to my body my choice.

saabsaab · 09-09-2020 01:16PM

Many have wondered why the death rate seems to be falling recently. Could it be that a certain herd immunity is starting?

An infected person will expel millions of virus particles, if no one is nearby these in the main will die from heat, drying out, UV etc etc. These dead or severely weakened particles will have spread everywhere by now and may slowly inoculate many of the nearby population? Mainly cities.

Wolf359f · 09-09-2020 01:17PM

seanb85 wrote: »

I don't think it's any surprise most spread is in households, that is inevitable given proximity. The question is how it is getting into households; are people picking it up at work, school, socialising, randomly? You cannot prevent household spread without stopping it getting into homes in the first place.

Maybe they could look again at isolation facilities to reduce household spread?

I think what they are seeing is household to household transmission as in they are not isolated. You can't prevent workers or people out shopping from picking it up and starting a cluster at home. I think that's very hard to prevent 100%, but then said household mixes with another and it creates another household cluster.

If that's the problem we're facing in Dublin, they need to come out and state that and give the figures behind it. Otherwise people just assume it's picked up in the community in each and every household cluster.

douglashyde · 09-09-2020 01:18PM

il gatto wrote: »

We did flatten the curve. And now we’re undoing that work rapidly. We’re going to open primary, secondary and third level education and pubs all in the same month. Without waiting to see what effect each one has on case levels.
At 200-300 a day, it could spread like wildfire in the next 2 months. We pride ourselves on being one of the wealthiest countries in the world and yet apparently we cannot subsidise one industry, staffed by mainly low paid workers, to stay shut for the greater good.
There’s lots of landlords agitating for reopening. There’s not so many bar staff, glass collectors etc. because they’re going to have to come face to face with drunk customers for rock bottom pay.
Per capita, today we had more cases than the UK who already have pubs open and are bringing in new restrictions and local lock downs. We’re so busy patting ourselves on the back for our initial response that I fear we’ve taken our eye off the ball.

There seems to be two things spoke about in isolation but rarely considered together by the public.

1. The seriousness of the disease: i.e. hospital loading / death rates / long term impact.

2. Number of cases going up. As a proxy this should increase point 1, above.

The data is clearly showing that while cases are going up because of a mix of factors notable an increase in referrals & testing ; Deaths or hospital loading is not going up.

As I've heard it put: It's a casedemaic not a pandemic.

Sconsey · 09-09-2020 01:18PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

You might think it's normal, I think it's retarded, no evidence to back it up. I want to live my life without wearing one. What happened to my body my choice.

Thats all just misdirection not an answer...how is a mask stopping you getting on with things?

Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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