What Whisky/Whiskey are we drinking this month?

BonnieSituation · 07-09-2020 06:31PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

O'Briens are running a special promotion on Method & Madness:

From September 7th, those who purchase any 700 ml bottle from the METHOD AND MADNESS range in selected O’Briens outlets or from their online store, will be entitled to a special sampling kit. Each one will contain a 50 ml miniature bottle of the METHOD AND MADNESS Single Pot Still, METHOD AND MADNESS Single Grain and METHOD AND MADNESS Single Malt.
Once you purchase any 700 ml bottle of METHOD AND MADNESS Irish whiskey from the O’Briens online store at www.obrienswine.ie or any of the outlets listed below, you can register for the complimentary sample bottles and tasting. These will be then sent straight to your home.
Only 100 sample kits are available for the entire promotion so places are strictly limited and it will be available until October 1st. On October 8th, participants will be invited to get their sample bottles ready and join a Zoom tasting at 7pm hosted by prestige whiskey ambassador Gerard Gerland and Larissa Marrichi from Midleton’s micro distillery team.

https://thetaste.ie/wp/method-and-madness-irish-whiskey-and-obriens-announce-tasting-event-promotion-when-knowledge-and-discovery-collide/?goal=0_4ef45a18c7-c516eb395d-188822433&mc_cid=c516eb395d&mc_eid=cb39237d91

I was just about to come in and say this.

Picked up a bottle of the single grain in O'Briens Lucan earlier and had my name added to the list. They only had 16 spots available and I was no. 12 FYI lads.

Gonna have a wee drop of this later.

Rocks, neat or water? Hmmmmmmmm...

dobman88 · 07-09-2020 08:04PM

Long time lurker here and with all the talk of Method and Madness, I popped into O Briens today to pick up a bottle. Had a wee drop and it's fantastic. A nice little kick to it and a great after taste. Definitely one I could see myself drinking easily of an evening.

BonnieSituation · 07-09-2020 08:35PM

dobman88 wrote: »

Long time lurker here and with all the talk of Method and Madness, I popped into O Briens today to pick up a bottle. Had a wee drop and it's fantastic. A nice little kick to it and a great after taste. Definitely one I could see myself drinking easily of an evening.

You're not wrong. Opened it there for a drop. Oh my God, it's glorious. Neat too.

Cazale · 07-09-2020 10:00PM

Waterford 1st Cuvée Pilgrimage going for over a grand. I wish I had got one!

https://www.whiskyauctioneer.com/lot/283606/waterford-1st-cuv%C3%A9e-pilgrimage

BonnieSituation · 07-09-2020 10:22PM

Cazale wrote: »

Waterford 1st Cuvée Pilgrimage going for over a grand. I wish I had got one!

https://www.whiskyauctioneer.com/lot/283606/waterford-1st-cuv%C3%A9e-pilgrimage

I wished I kept my Ratheadon now...

http://coopersofflicence.com/product/waterford-single-farm-origin-ratheadon-irish-single-malt-whisky/

€450.00

Disgraceful.

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That being said, I really don't. It was worth the drinking.

Hogzy · 07-09-2020 10:38PM

BonnieSituation wrote: »

I wished I kept my Ratheadon now...

http://coopersofflicence.com/product/waterford-single-farm-origin-ratheadon-irish-single-malt-whisky/

€450.00

Disgraceful.

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That being said, I really don't. It was worth the drinking.

I actually cant believe there are people out there willing to pay that sort of money for a new make whiskey. The Irish whiskey market at present has quite a few hallmarks of a bubble so to speak. I really cant see how sustainable charging such high prices for new make whiskey can be(even RRP for Waterford or some of the stuff JJ Corry are sending out). At the end of the day you need to compare irish whiskey prices to its Scottish counterpart to see what sort of pricing people will put up with when higher aged releases start to come about. If we're paying €75-€80 now for a new make bottle of waterford, what sort of price will be paid for a 12 year release? At present Powers Johns Lane, Redbreast 12 and yellowspot are all either cheaper or the same price as a bottle of waterford, and yes obviously both distilleries are vastly different in terms of their output and industrial scale. But the question still exists, how long more can people be expected to pay these ridiculous prices at retail for Irish Whiskey.

Also, the distilleries will need to look beyond the shores of Ireland to sell their produce in order to see any sort of decent return and do you really think a non enthusiast irish whiskey drinker will pick up a new make Irish for $80-90 when he could have a Lagavulin 16, Macallan 12 etc because at the end of the day, at an international level, thats what youre competing with.

Its just food for thought and something to consider if investing in a cask of whiskey.

EDIT: My motto is buy what you'll enjoy drinking. If the bubble bursts and your collection is worth diddly squat, id rather be sat there drinking a 27yr bottle of Redbreast than a Rathedon.

newbie runner · 07-09-2020 11:28PM

BonnieSituation wrote: »

World best bourbon apparently.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradjaphe/2020/08/16/the-worlds-best-bourbonaccording-to-the-international-wine-and-spirits-competition/

What was it you didn't like?

It was sickly sweet.Given that I had never really had bourbon before, I should have researched more.Anyway,I'll live and learn hopefully.Dont know what to do now with the rest of the bottle.

BonnieSituation · 07-09-2020 11:57PM

Hogzy wrote: »

I actually cant believe there are people out there willing to pay that sort of money for a new make whiskey. The Irish whiskey market at present has quite a few hallmarks of a bubble so to speak. I really cant see how sustainable charging such high prices for new make whiskey can be(even RRP for Waterford or some of the stuff JJ Corry are sending out). At the end of the day you need to compare irish whiskey prices to its Scottish counterpart to see what sort of pricing people will put up with when higher aged releases start to come about. If we're paying €75-€80 now for a new make bottle of waterford, what sort of price will be paid for a 12 year release? At present Powers Johns Lane, Redbreast 12 and yellowspot are all either cheaper or the same price as a bottle of waterford, and yes obviously both distilleries are vastly different in terms of their output and industrial scale. But the question still exists, how long more can people be expected to pay these ridiculous prices at retail for Irish Whiskey.

Also, the distilleries will need to look beyond the shores of Ireland to sell their produce in order to see any sort of decent return and do you really think a non enthusiast irish whiskey drinker will pick up a new make Irish for $80-90 when he could have a Lagavulin 16, Macallan 12 etc because at the end of the day, at an international level, thats what youre competing with.

Its just food for thought and something to consider if investing in a cask of whiskey.

EDIT: My motto is buy what you'll enjoy drinking. If the bubble bursts and your collection is worth diddly squat, id rather be sat there drinking a 27yr bottle of Redbreast than a Rathedon.

Absolutely spot on and it's exactly how I feel about it.

The "bubble" as you call it is even bringing the bottom shelf whiskeys up in price. I mean, seeing Jameson et al for 28-30euro on the regular is an indictment to how it's gone.

You can even see the fact that other Waterfords' are remaining on shelves the last few weeks, that they are certainly not gonna go the same way as the early releases.

BonnieSituation · 07-09-2020 11:59PM

newbie runner wrote: »

It was sickly sweet.Given that I had never really had bourbon before, I should have researched more.Anyway,I'll live and learn hopefully.Dont know what to do now with the rest of the bottle.

Make it into some Old Fashioned's

Cazale · 08-09-2020 09:56AM

Cazale wrote:

Waterford 1st CuvÃ©e Pilgrimage going for over a grand. I wish I had got one!

Went for 1,100 pound which when you add on the 10% buyers commission works out at over 1,350 euro for the winner.

Wailin · 08-09-2020 09:58AM

Happy days

ZV Yoda · 08-09-2020 09:58AM

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Absolutely spot on and it's exactly how I feel about it.

The "bubble" as you call it is even bringing the bottom shelf whiskeys up in price. I mean, seeing Jameson et al for 28-30euro on the regular is an indictment to how it's gone.

You can even see the fact that other Waterfords' are remaining on shelves the last few weeks, that they are certainly not gonna go the same way as the early releases.

I agree with this to a very large extent. Distilleries are really chancing their arm (price-wise) on new whiskeys. That said, I'll try anything once, but if I don't like it, I just won't buy it again.

Of the newer whiskeys, I think Roe & Co is a cracker. It's also great value compared to, say, RB12 (which I also love). There's good & bad to be found.

Cazale · 08-09-2020 09:59AM

Hogzy wrote:

Also, the distilleries will need to look beyond the shores of Ireland to sell their produce in order to see any sort of decent return and do you really think a non enthusiast irish whiskey drinker will pick up a new make Irish for $80-90 when he could have a Lagavulin 16, Macallan 12 etc because at the end of the day, at an international level, thats what youre competing with.

Agree 100%. Here is a review of an Irish Whiskey I saw on masters of malt which sums it up.

Another distinctly average new Irish Whiskey

There seems to be so many new Irish Whiskey brands around at the moment so after getting myself a mixed sample set of some from MOM i have to say i am underwhelmed by the majority of them. They all seem to taste like they have been sourced from the same distillery who have provided young and raw tasting grain, malt and pot still. Think i will stick to the established and proven brands until some of these new ones come of age and start producing their own liquid and there is a danger that this new dawn of Irish whiskey is a false one until something a little more exciting comes along. So sorry Tipperary/Hyde/Quiet man/Egan's/West Cork i will be staying with the Midleton, Teeling and Bushmills for my Irish for now! seems only Waterford have approached things from a different angle and actually released liquid of their own instead of just repackaging the same old Cooley stock?

odyssey06 · 08-09-2020 10:01AM

ZV Yoda wrote: »

Of the newer whiskeys, I think Roe & Co is a cracker. It's also great value compared to, say, RB12 (which I also love). There's good & bad to be found.

The Roe and Co Curators series is €50 in CWS. I like basic Roe and Co but thought this was a big step up in quality.

Cazale · 08-09-2020 10:06AM

Rew wrote:

A couple of years ago friend of mine was telling me buys a Middleton every year and he has them going back over 10 years. I showed him the price list and it blew his mind. He had 2009 which has appreciated considerably. He sold them in a recent auction and it paid for a heap of work he was doing to his house.

We had a baby girl this year and I'm going to buy a Midleton for each of her birthdays until she is 21. I was talking to a fella who runs a whiskey auction and he was saying that they are the best investment. Brands like Dingle/JJ Corry have seen big prices but they level out once they release so many. He thinks the same will happen to Waterford. If it doesn't work out at least I'll have a load of bottles of midleton to drink!

Starlord_01 · 08-09-2020 10:30AM

Anyone tried the Jameson Crested x Eight Degrees Brewing edition?

BonnieSituation · 08-09-2020 10:34AM

Cazale wrote: »

We had a baby girl this year and I'm going to buy a Midleton for each of her birthdays until she is 21. I was talking to a fella who runs a whiskey auction and he was saying that they are the best investment. Brands like Dingle/JJ Corry have seen big prices but they level out once they release so many. He thinks the same will happen to Waterford. If it doesn't work out at least I'll have a load of bottles of midleton to drink!

But if we all do this then there's a glut in 2 decades? Hmmm...

I was thinking the same when I saw the Macallan story a few weeks back.

Now which Midleton edition to buy...

Hogzy · 08-09-2020 10:55AM

Starlord_01 wrote: »

Anyone tried the Jameson Crested x Eight Degrees Brewing edition?

No, where can you get it! Caskmates Stout is lovely and Crested is even nicer so I can only imagine what the two together would be like.

Cant see anything in the usual stores.

BonnieSituation wrote: »

But if we all do this then there's a glut in 2 decades? Hmmm...

I was thinking the same when I saw the Macallan story a few weeks back.

Now which Midleton edition to buy...

Iv been doing this the last 3 years and quite a few friends who have little to no interest in whiskey seem to be doing the same. It appears to be quite common practice now but you then gotta ask yourself how many people will actually continue to do it for 18/21/25yrs etc.

You might see a better return collecting something a little less obvious.

Mellor · 08-09-2020 11:15AM

odyssey06 wrote: »

The Roe and Co Curators series is €50 in CWS. I like basic Roe and Co but thought this was a big step up in quality.

I tried them all at the distillery and decided to pick up a curator’s series at the airport. In my rush on the day I didn’t buy it. Regrets.

Birthday today. Added a Glenfiddich 12 to the collection. Will add a few more by the weekend.

Starlord_01 · 08-09-2020 11:36AM

Hogzy wrote: »

No, where can you get it! Caskmates Stout is lovely and Crested is even nicer so I can only imagine what the two together would be like.

Cant see anything in the usual stores.

Just seen it's exclusive to Midleton, Bow Street & Terminal 2 in the airport.

According to Twitter it'll be available on the Jameson online store in the coming weeks, €45.

Hogzy · 08-09-2020 12:20PM

Starlord_01 wrote: »

Just seen it's exclusive to Midleton, Bow Street & Terminal 2 in the airport.

According to Twitter it'll be available on the Jameson online store in the coming weeks, €45.

Cant see anything on the Jameson twitter page. Is it for sale to the general public?

irish_goat · 08-09-2020 12:21PM

Hogzy wrote: »

Cant see anything on the Jameson twitter page. Is it for sale to the general public?

https://twitter.com/Timothyoc/status/1301629529866240000

Hopefully getting a bottle picked up for myself today. Big fan of beer cask aged whiskey.

Hogzy · 08-09-2020 01:01PM

Gonna head to the Distillery in Midleton and buy a bottle. Ill be heading back up the M8/M7 to Dublin if anyone isnt near Midleton/Bow Street and wants me to pick them up a bottle and meet them on the motorway!

Cazale · 08-09-2020 01:30PM

Mellor wrote:

Birthday today. Added a Glenfiddich 12 to the collection. Will add a few more by the weekend.

Happy birthday!

killbillvol2 · 08-09-2020 01:49PM

Got my samples for the CWS Bunnahabhain tasting this morning. Nice selection and, going by an initial sniff, some lovely whisky.

There's a Stiuireadair, a 12 yo, an 18 yo and a Toiteach a Dha.

Insect Overlord · 08-09-2020 09:14PM

I'm finally finishing off the Laphroaig 10 year old I bought in July 2014. Celebrating a bit of family news.

The stuff hasn't lost even a hint of its flavour. I think I still slightly prefer Lagavulin, but I'll definitely be buying this one again sometime.

Cheers, folks.

Adyx · 08-09-2020 09:15PM

Cazale wrote: »

Went for 1,100 pound which when you add on the 10% buyers commission works out at over 1,350 euro for the winner.

Wonder would a signed bottle be worth a few quid more? :pac:

lawrencesummers · 08-09-2020 09:25PM

Cazale wrote: »

Went for 1,100 pound which when you add on the 10% buyers commission works out at over 1,350 euro for the winner.

£1600 for one on Scottish whiskey auction. That’s surely about 2k euro.

einn32 · 09-09-2020 01:16AM

Buffalo Trace Bourbon Whiskey. I got it as a present and I'm using it in whiskey sours which are quite enjoyable to make and drink! I want blown away by it on it's own.

Twee. · 09-09-2020 09:17AM

einn32 wrote: »

Buffalo Trace Bourbon Whiskey. I got it as a present and I'm using it in whiskey sours which are quite enjoyable to make and drink! I want blown away by it on it's own.

Always handy to have something in the press for cocktails though! I had a hankering for a Manhattan recently but wasn't on a big budget. Super Valu sorted me out with Jim Beam (on special offer) and Martini Rosso, did the job :pac: Worth a try with your Buffalo Trace if you like sipping on boozy cocktails.

What Whisky/Whiskey are we drinking this month?

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