Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

Boggles wrote: »

Saw that. Definitely true.

Did you see the one where the mask ate the baby?

Horrifying!

Would the stupid post about the mask still have eaten the baby and it be as ‘horrifying’ if whatsapp reported the real figure was as high as 3245 i wonder?

Didn't Spain have a short full lockdown - very like Wuhan's - and yet their infections are now skyrocketing? I'm happier with the halfway restrictions we have now, rather than being locked in my house with my three children for four weeks, only allowed out once a week to the shops.

And that's not to say I'm happy with the half-life we have now. Just that it's preferable to a short term severe lockdown if those are the options.

Zero Covid is a fantasy. You can be full sure that China has had a second wave, they just haven't told anyone.

screamer wrote: »

Posts like these show me that people really don’t see the transmission routes for Covid at all.
Staff handling dirty glasses, then serving other customers, lovely.
Using dirty glasses on the optics bottles, where your saliva has been, then next person etc, sure it’ll be grand.
Think about the ways someone’s germs and viruses can transmit TBH I won’t set foot in a pub guidelines or not.

Fomite transmission is rare though. Surfaces don't need to be sanitised every few minutes.

If a glass is visibly dirty of course get a new one but you will never have a sterile glass. It's not a sterile environment but picking up COVID that way isn't likely. A room full of people speaking/shouting/singing is much more likely to spread it.

podgeandrodge wrote: »

I see in the Irish Times today that under the new guidelines for opening pubs, "Fresh glasses are to be used for each drink, which staff “must handle ... by the stem or base”.

Would it not be better for people to use the same glass where possible rather than a new glass every time, would this not reduce the amount of handling by staff - encourage same glass use rather than new glasses? (Not suggesting that pints are using same glass)

plastic pint glasses would be handier for them

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Waste of time unless you have all of the UK and us on the same page . Then there is that little matter of opening up again.

Scotland are already onboard. NI could be convinced. Wales might then follow suit.

And then we all red-list England.

Micky 32 wrote: »

Would the stupid post about the mask still have eaten the baby and it be as ‘horrifying’ if whatsapp reported the real figure was as high as 3245 i wonder?

For a similar level of batshít in the other direction, that figure would be at least 20,000+.

#maths

Boggles wrote: »

For a similar level of batshít in the other direction, that figure would be at least 20,000+.

#maths

Well i didn’t want to use a figure of 20k+ in my post, just incase i caused panic and hysteria in the thread.

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Em, what? I referred to using the same glass (such as if I am drinking bottles of beer) rather than a different one each bottle. So staff only handle one glass in total rather than my "dirty glass" every time I get a new one.

But good to hear you won't set foot in a pub guidelines or not. I'd say they always find you in the kitchen at parties!

So if you get a bottle of beer you use the same glass, a pint or anything else you need a new glass.... rules have to be simple and clear, not with this exception or that allowance or you’ll have all the usual whingers giving out and refusing to do what’s asked.

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JDD wrote: »

Didn't Spain have a short full lockdown - very like Wuhan's - and yet their infections are now skyrocketing? I'm happier with the halfway restrictions we have now, rather than being locked in my house with my three children for four weeks, only allowed out once a week to the shops.

And that's not to say I'm happy with the half-life we have now. Just that it's preferable to a short term severe lockdown if those are the options.

Zero Covid is a fantasy. You can be full sure that China has had a second wave, they just haven't told anyone.

From a scientific point of view if you closed borders for months on end and gave time to isolate all cases and allow them to recover or unfortunately die, it could happen. It would literally mean zero people in zero people out. No freight deliveries, no shipping, no trade whatsoever.

However in the meantime your population will inevitably starve as supply chains are cut off. Just goes to show it is a daft theory.

The only nation anywhere in the world that would possibly even think of implementing such measures would be North Korea.

HSE Operations report for last night.

48 cases in hosptial, down 2.

6 in ICU all 6 ventilated. No change

4 cases confirmed through hosptial labs yesterday, 2 in Beaumont, 1 each St James's & Tullamore.

stephenjmcd wrote:

NHS unable to give anyone else a covid test at the moment. Labs said to have reached "critical pinch point".

Testing sites have capacity, labs don't

In the UK theyve diverted lab reagents to labs in cities where there are large outbreaks. It means more rural areas don't have enough resources to carry out tests and people have to travel great distances to be swabbed.

Labs of course have capacity. When there is still worldwide demand for the same supplies, your hands are tied by the supply. Staff shortages also limit capacity if smaller labs dont have staff to process samples at night.

These shortages are impacting other tests as well. We couldn't get disposable plastic tips for months to do Haemachromatosis testing and had to ask around other hospitals to send us some.

Labs are always running at capacity and that will give sooner or later.