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Brendan Bendar · 06-09-2020 06:34PM

Yurt! wrote: »

Does anyone else find it a bit unsettling that there's a drunk man having a conversation with himself on this thread?

Explain yourself, coach?

blanch152 · 06-09-2020 07:35PM

smurgen wrote: »

Leo Varadkar is a pathetic person worthy of ridicule. He jumped on the gay rights bandwagon when it suited him this article is a great run down of how he done this. Starting to me are his comments on the civil partnership bill in 2009 :

"Two men cannot have a child, two women cannot have a child… That is a fact, nobody can deny otherwise. Every child has a right to a mother and father, and as much as possible, the State should try and vindicate that right, and that the right of a child to have a mother and father is much more important than the right of two men, or two women, to have a family."

I wouldn't trust that man as far as I could throw him. He'd sell his soul for personal gain.He has zero integrity and no identifiable values or ethics.

https://m.independent.ie/opinion/its-easy-to-do-the-right-thing-when-its-cool-and-profitable-37042890.html

That is nearly as vile as the organised SF smears about Mairia Cahill.

Understand those are still under investigation and some SF branch Twitter accounts are in real trouble. Will be one to watch.

As for Leo, the evidence of the homophobic smears on social media are clear.

cryptocurrency · 06-09-2020 08:01PM

an election now will see ff wiped out at the polls. They have gone full taliban in power in two months.

James Brown · 06-09-2020 11:28PM

blanch152 wrote: »

That is nearly as vile as the organised SF smears about Mairia Cahill.

Understand those are still under investigation and some SF branch Twitter accounts are in real trouble. Will be one to watch.

As for Leo, the evidence of the homophobic smears on social media are clear.

Can you show proof of your claim that the campaign to smear was orchestrated by SF?

Bishop of hope · 07-09-2020 06:11AM

Bowie wrote: »

Can you show proof of your claim that the campaign to smear was orchestrated by SF?

Well at least you don't deny there is an attempt!
It's mostly SF supporters on social media that engage in it in my circles anyway.
Not sure it's actual official policy, but it's supporters of SF policy certainly.
It's like "code red".

blanch152 · 07-09-2020 06:27AM

Bowie wrote: »

Can you show proof of your claim that the campaign to smear was orchestrated by SF?

As I said in my post, the Garda investigation into the Mairia Cahill smear campaign is reaching an interesting stage. Expect apologies all round from SF grandees over the next few months.

However, as another poster said, glad to see you acknowledge its existence.

dundalkfc10 · 07-09-2020 06:55AM

So no proof.

FrancieBrady · 07-09-2020 07:54AM

blanch152 wrote: »

As I said in my post, the Garda investigation into the Mairia Cahill smear campaign is reaching an interesting stage. Expect apologies all round from SF grandees over the next few months.

However, as another poster said, glad to see you acknowledge its existence.

You did this before with out back up nor it happening subsequently. Regina Doherty did the same thing...sucked in her cheeks and ooohhhed about '40 investigations' etc etc.
Not so subtle FG attempting to keep the whiff of sulphur/scandal going?

How do you know about this interesting stage and are you going to share links to this info?

McMurphy · 07-09-2020 08:41AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You did this before with out back up nor it happening subsequently. Regina Doherty did the same thing...sucked in her cheeks and ooohhhed about '40 investigations' etc etc.
Not so subtle FG attempting to keep the whiff of sulphur/scandal going?

How do you know about this interesting stage and are you going to share links to this info?

Blanch "met with a minister" last weekend don't forget. Privy to certain info not yet in the public domain?

James Brown · 07-09-2020 11:58AM

blanch152 wrote: »

As I said in my post, the Garda investigation into the Mairia Cahill smear campaign is reaching an interesting stage. Expect apologies all round from SF grandees over the next few months.

However, as another poster said, glad to see you acknowledge its existence.

I did not. I acknowledged your ciaim.
You claim a SF orchestrated campaign exists. I'm asking for proof. You have none.
You are making a false claim with no proof.

blanch152 · 07-09-2020 07:54PM

Bowie wrote: »

I did not. I acknowledged your ciaim.
You claim a SF orchestrated campaign exists. I'm asking for proof. You have none.
You are making a false claim with no proof.

I said things are getting interesting, let’s see what happens.

blanch152 · 07-09-2020 07:58PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You did this before with out back up nor it happening subsequently. Regina Doherty did the same thing...sucked in her cheeks and ooohhhed about '40 investigations' etc etc.
Not so subtle FG attempting to keep the whiff of sulphur/scandal going?

How do you know about this interesting stage and are you going to share links to this info?

Talk to Regina about her claims, not me.

I read something on a public forum, just repeated it here. I thought I had better say that before you and McMurphy head off to GSOC to complain about leaks.

FrancieBrady · 07-09-2020 08:03PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Talk to Regina about her claims, not me.

Would be as pointless as asking you to back something up. FG tactic you seemed to have picked up...allege and then allege some more never back up. As we have seen, for some, when it comes to SF allegations are enough.

FrancieBrady · 07-09-2020 08:37PM

Richmond, the quintessential FGer with SF living rent free in his head, is getting some doing on the tweet machine. They never seem to learn. Responses to him probably orchestrated by SF and under interesting investigations.

https://twitter.com/nealerichmond/status/1302969631192252418

James Brown · 07-09-2020 09:08PM

blanch152 wrote: »

I said things are getting interesting, let’s see what happens.

A little more than that.

blanch152 wrote: »

That is nearly as vile as the organised SF smears about Mairia Cahill.

Understand those are still under investigation and some SF branch Twitter accounts are in real trouble. Will be one to watch..

blanch152 · 07-09-2020 09:18PM

Bowie wrote: »

A little more than that.

Let’s wait and see then

James Brown · 07-09-2020 09:25PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Let’s wait and see then

You stated it was a campaign orchestrated by SF.
I don't assume any pro fascist tweet is a FG orchestrated campaign even when it is a FG member tweeting it.
You should have made it clear it was a conspiracy theory.

Bishop of hope · 08-09-2020 06:52AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Richmond, the quintessential FGer with SF living rent free in his head, is getting some doing on the tweet machine. They never seem to learn. Responses to him probably orchestrated by SF and under interesting investigations.

https://twitter.com/nealerichmond/status/1302969631192252418

SF are in a powersharing govt in Northern Ireland, ruled by Boris Johnson and co.
And it looks like they are absolving themselves of any responsibilities here and looking to blame our govt if things go pear shaped
Yer if it turns out that it will be OK they will take the credit.
Political gamesmanship at its best.

And talking of people and partys living in people's heads, Leo and FG seem to be in every shinners head;).

FrancieBrady · 08-09-2020 07:29AM

Bishop of hope wrote: »

SF are in a powersharing govt in Northern Ireland, ruled by Boris Johnson and co.
And it looks like they are absolving themselves of any responsibilities here and looking to blame our govt if things go pear shaped
Yer if it turns out that it will be OK they will take the credit.
Political gamesmanship at its best.

And talking of people and partys living in people's heads, Leo and FG seem to be in every shinners head;).

I thought what Neale was getting annoyed about was SF taking responsibility and once again setting the agenda for the Dublin government. He is being told it often enough after he fired off his blunderbuss. He is a member of the party that didn't believe in special status for NI after all.

*It is a FG FF and Green thread bish, the Neale Richmond's of Boards.ie think all threads are about SF.

Brendan Bendar · 08-09-2020 07:49AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I thought what Neale was getting annoyed about was SF taking responsibility and once again setting the agenda for the Dublin government. He is being told it often enough after he fired off his blunderbuss. He is a member of the party that didn't believe in special status for NI after all.

*It is a FG FF and Green thread bish, the Neale Richmond's of Boards.ie think all threads are about SF.

You are desperately trying to turn this into a polemic Mr F.

You don’t like any reference to senior people in the party you support exulting about ‘breaking the State’ and expressing support for a terrorist organisation.

People like that have no credibility surely.

dundalkfc10 · 08-09-2020 07:56AM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

You are desperately trying to turn this into a polemic Mr F.

You don’t like any reference to senior people in the party you support exulting about ‘breaking the State’ and expressing support for a terrorist organisation.

People like that have no credibility surely.

You can discuss your opinions on a SF thread maybe?

FrancieBrady · 08-09-2020 07:57AM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

You are desperately trying to turn this into a polemic Mr F.

You don’t like any reference to senior people in the party you support exulting about ‘breaking the State’ and expressing support for a terrorist organisation.

People like that have no credibility surely.

'Don't like'?

I don't see it's relevance at all Brendan. The 'state' as it pertained or manifested itself over 100 years of the power swap was 'broken' at the election. It is now a power share/merger/coalition of the two parties. A seismic break IMO and celebrated by me too...rather than specific support for SF or any party, that is what I want - the way we are governed broken.

As to the 'Up the RA' comment...the continued faux outrage that a shinner would support the IRA is continually funny tbh. So keep the outraged 'references' up...don't mind me.

Dempo1 · 08-09-2020 08:08AM

So Mairead McGuinness new commissioner, must have been the most eagerly awaited obvious appointment in the history of the EU, I'd have laughed out loud if she got the trade Portfolio, Simon Coveney would have been sick as a parrot, nonetheless he keeps his Merc & Perks so he won't be terribly put out.

FrancieBrady · 08-09-2020 08:29AM

Dempo1 wrote: »

So Mairead McGuinness new commissioner, must have been the most eagerly awaited obvious appointment in the history of the EU, I'd have laughed out loud if she got the trade Portfolio, Simon Coveney would have been sick as a parrot, nonetheless he keeps his Merc & Perks so he won't be terribly put out.

In fairness, she has the best chance of all the proposed names to repair the damage Hogan did to us.
Never struck me as suffering from the FG arrogance thing...but she could be a late developer.

Risteard81 · 08-09-2020 08:32AM

She is an odious woman. I can't stand her. And the so-called "EU" is illegal and treasonous and must be disbanded.

touts · 08-09-2020 08:35AM

McGuinness given the Financial Services, Financial Stability and Capital Markets Union portfolio. All Banking roles. BUT then von der Leyen gives the job of representing the commission on the EuroGroup, the body that actually oversees banks etc to another commissioner.

Thats one big **** you to Ireland. Here's Ireland's new commissioner on her first day in her very important role at commission meetings.

Dempo1 · 08-09-2020 08:37AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

In fairness, she has the best chance of all the proposed names to repair the damage Hogan did to us.
Never struck me as suffering from the FG arrogance thing...but she could be a late developer.

Excellent and fair point

Coveney"s arrogance was breath taking, no I'm not taking a Job beneath my stature, I also thought Leo's professed hysterical delight at Simon staying put was hilarious, you coukd see him biting his Lip, he'd have love nothing more than Coveney"s departure to EU.

Meanwhile I'm sure this government thrilled at this latest silly Brexit Distraction, anything but Pubs reopening, Covid-19 outbreaks in school's, Bizzare and might I add far to good to be true leaving cert results and let's not forget the economy now in Recession, you couldn't make any of it up.

Dempo1 · 08-09-2020 08:38AM

touts wrote: »

McGuinness given the Financial Services, Financial Stability and Capital Markets Union portfolio. All Banking roles. BUT then von der Leyen gives the job of representing the commission on the EuroGroup, the body that actually oversees banks etc to another commissioner.

Thats one big **** you to Ireland. Here's Ireland's new commissioner on her first day in her very important role at commission meetings.

Bishop of hope · 08-09-2020 09:26AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I thought what Neale was getting annoyed about was SF taking responsibility and once again setting the agenda for the Dublin government. He is being told it often enough after he fired off his blunderbuss. He is a member of the party that didn't believe in special status for NI after all.

*It is a FG FF and Green thread bish, the Neale Richmond's of Boards.ie think all threads are about SF.

Ah now that's not an answer to the point I posed at all.
SF are shadow boxing here and attempting to blame govt here for something they have a huge shout about North of the border surely.
This is another win win for them as they won't accept responsibility for any wrong while pointing the finger at govt down here.
They're probably figuring out what exactly they have influence over, in servitude to a British govt riding them and blaming our govt.
They collapsed the executive over fcuk all before, it'll happen again probably and they'd have more grounds for doing so if this goes pear shaped, they can do that and blame FF/FG/Greens and get away with it.
But truth be told if Boris UK govt decide to crash out with no deal neither side can do fcuk all to stop it.
But to SF favour is the fact that it might bring a unity poll closer.
They're probably secretly hoping for it to go down that way, and they can blame everyone else for it too.
SF is mentioned here as its in the context of who a hard brexit actually favours.
Fcuk the economy, let's see if it unites Ireland attitude.
And you were the one who shot up the tweet mentioning them.

FrancieBrady · 08-09-2020 09:34AM

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Ah now that's not an answer to the point I posed at all.
SF are shadow boxing here and attempting to blame govt here for something they have a huge shout about North of the border surely.
This is another win win for them as they won't accept responsibility for any wrong while pointing the finger at govt down here.
They're probably figuring out what exactly they have influence over, in servitude to a British govt riding them and blaming our govt.
They collapsed the executive over fcuk all before, it'll happen again probably and they'd have more grounds for doing so if this goes pear shaped, they can do that and blame FF/FG/Greens and get away with it.
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Utter nonsense and no point reading any further.

The notion that you can only 'oppose' in government if you have never been wrong is bizarre and the sly surender monkeys/subservient digs are predictable. Straight out of the Richmond playbook tbh.

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