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Samuel T. Cogley · 05-09-2020 04:18PM

smuggler.ie wrote: »

Not insisting - not expert, just discussion. If i would (IF?, no way!!!) buy second hand disk, could not care less what was on it. Would care to make sure its clean from anything...

Just discussing also. I just think it's easier, given a H/W solution vs the S/W solution for HDDs. Is either method fool proof, probably not.

In fairness the claims that overwritten data on HDDs can be recovered may be urban legend according to at least one research paper.

smuggler.ie · 05-09-2020 04:21PM

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Just discussing also. I just think it's easier, given a H/W solution vs the S/W solution for HDDs. Is either method fool proof, probably not.

In fairness the claims that overwritten data on HDDs can be recovered may be urban legend according to one research paper.

In any way, it would require knowledge, some soft/equipment and most ... determination/reason to do such.

007 case

Samuel T. Cogley · 05-09-2020 04:23PM

smuggler.ie wrote: »

In any way, it would require knowledge, some soft/equipment and most ... determination/reason to do such. 007 case

In fairness it's CIA level **** :pac: And they probably have the data anyway!

SickBoy · 05-09-2020 04:55PM

Looking to get a controller for pc.
Would like something solid build, compatible with most games and wireless, something like an Xbox one controller but they're pricy.
Any thoughts and or recommendations?

Squidgy Black · 05-09-2020 05:19PM

SickBoy wrote: »

Looking to get a controller for pc.
Would like something solid build, compatible with most games and wireless, something like an Xbox one controller but they're pricy.
Any thoughts and or recommendations?

Xbox one is the best to be honest, no messing around with controller emulation etc as pretty much all games support it.

I've been using a dualshock PS4 controller with the DS4Windows app so it does the controller emulation but it can be a bit annoying in terms of prompts for certain games telling you the Xbox buttons (so A instead of X etc).

K.O.Kiki · 05-09-2020 06:45PM

Xbox One / 360 pads are good.

But if you want to experiment, get a Switch Pro controller (62EUR on Amazon).
Great battery life, USB-C charging & can interface with games via SteamAPI to use gyro-aiming or Flick-Stick.

* alternatively, DualShock 4 via USB - its gyro polls at 250Hz compared to Switch Pro's 60Hz.

SickBoy · 06-09-2020 10:57AM

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Xbox one is the best to be honest, no messing around with controller emulation etc as pretty much all games support it.

I've been using a dualshock PS4 controller with the DS4Windows app so it does the controller emulation but it can be a bit annoying in terms of prompts for certain games telling you the Xbox buttons (so A instead of X etc).

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Xbox One / 360 pads are good.

But if you want to experiment, get a Switch Pro controller (62EUR on Amazon).
Great battery life, USB-C charging & can interface with games via SteamAPI to use gyro-aiming or Flick-Stick.

* alternatively, DualShock 4 via USB - its gyro polls at 250Hz compared to Switch Pro's 60Hz.

Thanks for the replies.
As I suspected, Xbox One seems to be the recommendation then.
Now to try and find it for the lowest price.
Argos (€48.19) seems to be better than Amazon (£52.79) but I cannot see it available in any stores.
Anyone know where I might pick one up for ~€50

06-09-2020 11:11AM

I'd say CEX probably have loads of them.

SickBoy · 06-09-2020 11:17AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'd say CEX probably have loads of them.

CEX looking for €60

Skerries · 06-09-2020 04:15PM

has anyone tried the knock off versions in Argos?

https://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/8516802/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CVideo+games%7C14419738/c_2/3%7C19780877%7CXbox+One%7C37328270/c_3/4%7Ccat_37328270%7CXbox+One+controllers+and+steering%7C37328807.htm

https://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/8630908/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CVideo+games%7C14419738/c_2/3%7C19780877%7CXbox+One%7C37328270/c_3/4%7Ccat_37328270%7CXbox+One+controllers+and+steering%7C37328807.htm

Robert ninja · 07-09-2020 02:41AM

Any opinions on this build? https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/czGMRk

Looking to base my new system off of it. Want it a bit cheaper probably in the CPU department. Could lose a bit of RAM too. Replacing my 1440p gaming/streaming/editing build. No rush on it though as I'm waiting for new GPUs to hit retail.

Squidgy Black · 07-09-2020 07:00AM

Robert ninja wrote: »

Any opinions on this build? https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/czGMRk

Looking to base my new system off of it. Want it a bit cheaper probably in the CPU department. Could lose a bit of RAM too. Replacing my 1440p gaming/streaming/editing build. No rush on it though as I'm waiting for new GPUs to hit retail.

AMD 4000 series is due to be launched next month, so I wouldn't commit to any cpu for now.

Kimbot · 07-09-2020 07:10AM

Skerries wrote: »

has anyone tried the knock off versions in Argos?

https://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/8516802/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CVideo+games%7C14419738/c_2/3%7C19780877%7CXbox+One%7C37328270/c_3/4%7Ccat_37328270%7CXbox+One+controllers+and+steering%7C37328807.htm

https://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/8630908/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CVideo+games%7C14419738/c_2/3%7C19780877%7CXbox+One%7C37328270/c_3/4%7Ccat_37328270%7CXbox+One+controllers+and+steering%7C37328807.htm

I bought a Power A one and a PDP version for use on PC, I dont mind wired as I sit close to the screen. They are really good pads in fairness for the price. SOme are down to 15 euro in argos at the moment too

Samuel T. Cogley · 07-09-2020 10:42AM

Robert ninja wrote: »

Any opinions on this build? https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/czGMRk

Looking to base my new system off of it. Want it a bit cheaper probably in the CPU department. Could lose a bit of RAM too. Replacing my 1440p gaming/streaming/editing build. No rush on it though as I'm waiting for new GPUs to hit retail.

That's insane for a 5700XT. Especially as theres going to be loads on the secondhand market.

Wonda-Boy · 07-09-2020 10:59AM

Well my 1st experience with Casekings.de is not going too well.

As you may or may not know I ordered a full Ryzen 9 build and everything was hunky dorey, an item that was in stock on the website was suddenly not in stock when order was placed resulting in 2 day delay...no big.

Then after talking with the good chaps on here I ordered a PSU and told them to stick it on the order that did not leave yet to save delivery charges. PSU arrived 2 days later and charged full delivery. Still no main order dispatched.....ordered the lot on the 27/8/2020.

Big box arrives this morning, and I am over the moon but I had reservations of a Lian Li case in same box. So I open the box that you would fit a small car inside and to my disgust it has nothing but my motherboard in it and box says 2 of 2!!!!

So I ring the father land and other dude on the line has very little english (not his problem) but I ask is there anyone there who can "speaka da inglish" but that dont work when the dude you are talking to, cant speaka da inglish tbh.

Rang DHL and they said that the 2nd package was sent back as there was a problem with the package.....meanwhile back in Germanyland they nhave no idea whats going on.....

So, realistically Id say I will be about a week sorting through this bollocks by email only that takes on average a day per mail at this rate. :mad:

Should have just ordered from the cheapest in the UK tbh.

Squidgy Black · 07-09-2020 11:24AM

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

Well my 1st experience with Casekings.de is not going too well.

As you may or may not know I ordered a full Ryzen 9 build and everything was hunky dorey, an item that was in stock on the website was suddenly not in stock when order was placed resulting in 2 day delay...no big.

Then after talking with the good chaps on here I ordered a PSU and told them to stick it on the order that did not leave yet to save delivery charges. PSU arrived 2 days later and charged full delivery. Still no main order dispatched.....ordered the lot on the 27/8/2020.

Big box arrives this morning, and I am over the moon but I had reservations of a Lian Li case in same box. So I open the box that you would fit a small car inside and to my disgust it has nothing but my motherboard in it and box says 2 of 2!!!!

So I ring the father land and other dude on the line has very little english (not his problem) but I ask is there anyone there who can "speaka da inglish" but that dont work when the dude you are talking to, cant speaka da inglish tbh.

Rang DHL and they said that the 2nd package was sent back as there was a problem with the package.....meanwhile back in Germanyland they nhave no idea whats going on.....

So, realistically Id say I will be about a week sorting through this bollocks by email only that takes on average a day per mail at this rate. :mad:

Should have just ordered from the cheapest in the UK tbh.

They're based in Berlin, I would be amazed if most of their staff didn't have a basic level of English. It sounds like they're just trying to fob you off. Even the jobs on their website for customer service says you must have a good understanding of English.

Mr Crispy · 07-09-2020 11:26AM

I had to ring them once and the guy I spoke to had better English than me.

Samuel T. Cogley · 07-09-2020 11:27AM

Unless its massively more expensive I swear by Amazon.

Revoker88 · 07-09-2020 01:06PM

Robert ninja wrote: »

Any opinions on this build? https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/czGMRk

Looking to base my new system off of it. Want it a bit cheaper probably in the CPU department. Could lose a bit of RAM too. Replacing my 1440p gaming/streaming/editing build. No rush on it though as I'm waiting for new GPUs to hit retail.

Well,not sure what the point of posting a build in which you dont plan on buying most of the parts in it is but here goes.

Personally id go 3700X or the 4000 series equivalent. Clock speeds may improve with the 4000 series so I'd be waiting for that.

Also not sure where Asus b550 boards stand in the rankings,just check that specific model out or ask someone else here with more exp with b550 reviews.

3600Mhz ram would be a good choice to pair with ryzen,keep that if you can.Personally 16gb is fine but depending on what your editing 32gb may be beneficial. If its just your own gameplay id take the hit and stick with 16gb. 32gb of 3600Mhz ram could get expensive.

Id get better cpu cooler if can be fit in the budget,cant got wrong with noctua. A single tower/single fan from Noctua should cover it no matter what CPU you go with.

GPU you have said your waiting for the new ones. Thats a no brainer and the way to go.

As for PSU,750W should suffice for everything bar a 3090 as long as good quality. Stock of PSUs is seems to be pretty poor atm. Id probably try pick a good one up when in stock and don't wait to order it when ordering all the parts givin the stock issues.

savemejebus · 07-09-2020 01:13PM

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

Well my 1st experience with Casekings.de is not going too well.

...

Rang DHL and they said that the 2nd package was sent back as there was a problem with the package.....meanwhile back in Germanyland they nhave no idea whats going on.....

To be fair, that sounds like DHL damaged the box, hardly case kings fault. They won't know the story until DHL deliver the box back to them and from experience with couriers they often don't let the client know there is a problem until they bring it back to them

wotzgoingon · 07-09-2020 01:39PM

Squidgy Black wrote: »

They're based in Berlin, I would be amazed if most of their staff didn't have a basic level of English.

How do you come to the conclusion that because they are from Berlin they know English?

Squidgy Black · 07-09-2020 01:44PM

wotzgoingon wrote: »

How do you come to the conclusion that because they are from Berlin they know English?

Because English is taught in 90% of schools as a compulsary foreign language and Berlin has a huge contingent of English speakers because of the amount of foreign nationals that have setup shop over the past few decades in tech etc. Most customer service roles in Berlin require at least a basic level of English. Including the job listings on the casekings website for customer service roles....

Gumbi · 07-09-2020 03:03PM

Any suggestions for a decent quality, but relatively simple/basic sets of speakers? I have a set that have been on their last legs for a year or so now that came with the family desktop in 97 or so LOL.

Thanks

it's a bit embarassing to have been using such an old set of speakers while on such a zippy system haha.

SickBoy · 07-09-2020 03:54PM

Gumbi wrote: »

Any suggestions for a decent quality, but relatively simple/basic sets of speakers? I have a set that have been on their last legs for a year or so now that came with the family desktop in 97 or so LOL.

Thanks it's a bit embarassing to have been using such an old set of speakers while on such a zippy system haha.

Have the Creative Pebble V2 and love them.
Great value for money.

Gumbi · 07-09-2020 04:03PM

SickBoy wrote: »

Have the Creative Pebble V2 and love them.
Great value for money.

Thanks. I'm not averse to spending up to 40 or 50 quid if I'll see an appreciable benefit scaling that far above the above-linked. If not, those should be grand!

TitianGerm · 07-09-2020 04:21PM

Gumbi wrote: »

Thanks. I'm not averse to spending up to 40 or 50 quid if I'll see an appreciable benefit scaling that far above the above-linked. If not, those should be grand!

https://www.hifix.co.uk/denon-ceol-carino-n2-computer-speaker-system

I got a set of these from Richer Sounds here on Boards for €50.

Worth keeping an eye on their forum for their next open box sale.

Robert ninja · 08-09-2020 07:17AM

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

That's insane for a 5700XT. Especially as theres going to be loads on the secondhand market.

Yeah I'll be waiting for that. The part picker tool isn't always best at picking the best deal anyway.

EoinHef wrote: »

Well,not sure what the point of posting a build in which you dont plan on buying most of the parts in it

I prefer to start my builds off of some kind of base and go from there and this is one from a streamer I enjoy who has similar taste and usage as I do. Just a little bit hard for me to start from scratch but I may make a dedicated thread about one later when I'm closer to actually buying.

EoinHef wrote: »

Also not sure where Asus b550 boards stand in the rankings,just check that specific model out or ask someone else here with more exp with b550 reviews.

Might actually grill the streamer on why they chose that mobo and see how it's holding up.

EoinHef wrote: »

3600Mhz ram would be a good choice to pair with ryzen,keep that if you can.Personally 16gb is fine but depending on what your editing 32gb may be beneficial. If its just your own gameplay id take the hit and stick with 16gb. 32gb of 3600Mhz ram could get expensive.

Yeah it's unlikely I can keep above 16 with my budget but I have frequently ran out of RAM with my use cases and not even for editing. Just a browser with tons of tabs, obs, game, 2nd browser for separate tasks + a few miscellaneous applications open. It might be a bit overkill and I should probably just use less tabs :pac: Vertical tabbing is amazing and I've been using it for years but it lets you become lazy with tab management.

Wonda-Boy · 08-09-2020 10:09AM

Well my mobo arrived and I must be out of the game too long because all the components seem to be alot heavier then when I built my last PC.

Asus Crosshair VIII Hero, seemed like the best board without spending crazy money. I originally wanted the white Asus X570 Pro but the features where a little limited. This should perform very well with the Ryzen 9 and 36GB (2x16GB) of Ryzen Certified G Skill Trident Neo Z Ram @3600mhz CL16.

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Revoker88 · 08-09-2020 10:57AM

Could that be because of PCI E 4.0 and the extra PCB layers for traces?

Something about the traces having to be kept further apart requiring extra PCB layers. Wonder could that be wahts making it heavier. Can't remember where I read that now!!

Hyzepher · 08-09-2020 11:41AM

Heatsinks more than likely - have come on a bit over the last years and do add a fair bit of weight overall

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