Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

Goldengirl · 06-09-2020 07:53PM

cityboyjim wrote: »

I have been dropping into Boards a few times each week to have a look, and sometimes dropped out just as fast .The odd interesting and informative post and the rest .Well now lets just say people have time on their hands and like using the old keyboard to maybe stir a bit of controversy.The result being that nobody takes whats said here as even remotely solid and reliable information.
The bottom line is that this pandemic has now killed 880.000 people .
Infected 27,000,000 .
Young people are so complacent its mind boggling .
Nurses and Doctors are putting themselves at risk every day they get up ..
Not just themselves but their families also .
Schools should be running 7 days a week .Three days attendance one week and four the next .Community Centers should be used as classrooms .At risk teachers would be safer by doing this .
Proper compensation for country pubs and stay closed until there is a vaccine .Not going to be financially viable for small bars to open anyway due to the restrictions that will be put in place .Much safer and financially sensible to keep our cases down and out hospitals able to function better in order to cope with all the other illnesses out there .
Town centers to be policed more .Not just at night .Large shopping centers number restricted .
GAA seemed to work so far . All Ireland championship should be changed to knock out with all games streamed or televised .
See out 2020 and Astra Zenica to come good in the new year .Thanks

Good post , cityboyjim !

mr zulu · 06-09-2020 07:54PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Worrying data from the CDC

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1302678426319564805

The day wouldn't be complete without your daily does of complete utter fear mongering and misery.

normanoffside · 06-09-2020 07:57PM

mr zulu wrote: »

The day wouldn't be complete without your daily does of complete utter fear mongering and misery.

People here used to say it was 6%. so at least this is an improvement.

Goldengirl · 06-09-2020 07:57PM

Santy2015 wrote: »

I’ll say this again!! GERRY KILLEEN is a troll!! He’s been on a self inflicted drug binge since this all started. Man is away with the fairies. Take anything he says with a pinch of salt! I’d actually go as far as saying he needs to be looked after for his own sake.

Stop Insulting Away with the Fairies !

khalessi · 06-09-2020 07:58PM

Originally Posted by cityboyjim View Post
I have been dropping into Boards a few times each week to have a look, and sometimes dropped out just as fast .The odd interesting and informative post and the rest .Well now lets just say people have time on their hands and like using the old keyboard to maybe stir a bit of controversy.The result being that nobody takes whats said here as even remotely solid and reliable information.
The bottom line is that this pandemic has now killed 880.000 people .
Infected 27,000,000 .
Young people are so complacent its mind boggling .
Nurses and Doctors are putting themselves at risk every day they get up ..
Not just themselves but their families also .
Schools should be running 7 days a week .Three days attendance one week and four the next .Community Centers should be used as classrooms .At risk teachers would be safer by doing this .
Proper compensation for country pubs and stay closed until there is a vaccine .Not going to be financially viable for small bars to open anyway due to the restrictions that will be put in place .Much safer and financially sensible to keep our cases down and out hospitals able to function better in order to cope with all the other illnesses out there .
Town centers to be policed more .Not just at night .Large shopping centers number restricted .
GAA seemed to work so far . All Ireland championship should be changed to knock out with all games streamed or televised .
See out 2020 and Astra Zenica to come good in the new year .Thanks

Not a bad post
Just wondering how schools being open 7 days a week would work?

Is there any other job that works 7 days a week with no days off.

Jim_Hodge · 06-09-2020 08:00PM

khalessi wrote: »

Originally Posted by cityboyjim View Post
I have been dropping into Boards a few times each week to have a look, and sometimes dropped out just as fast .The odd interesting and informative post and the rest .Well now lets just say people have time on their hands and like using the old keyboard to maybe stir a bit of controversy.The result being that nobody takes whats said here as even remotely solid and reliable information.
The bottom line is that this pandemic has now killed 880.000 people .
Infected 27,000,000 .
Young people are so complacent its mind boggling .
Nurses and Doctors are putting themselves at risk every day they get up ..
Not just themselves but their families also .
Schools should be running 7 days a week .Three days attendance one week and four the next .Community Centers should be used as classrooms .At risk teachers would be safer by doing this .
Proper compensation for country pubs and stay closed until there is a vaccine .Not going to be financially viable for small bars to open anyway due to the restrictions that will be put in place .Much safer and financially sensible to keep our cases down and out hospitals able to function better in order to cope with all the other illnesses out there .
Town centers to be policed more .Not just at night .Large shopping centers number restricted .
GAA seemed to work so far . All Ireland championship should be changed to knock out with all games streamed or televised .
See out 2020 and Astra Zenica to come good in the new year .Thanks

Not a bad post
Just wondering how schools being open 7 days a week would work?

Is there any other job that works 7 days a week with no days off.

Not that I agree with it but the schools could be open with teachers working shifts like in many occupations.

khalessi · 06-09-2020 08:01PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Not that I agree with it but the schools could be open with teachers working shifts like in many occupations.

Are you suggesting splitting classes in half?

wadacrack · 06-09-2020 08:02PM

mr zulu wrote: »

The day wouldn't be complete without your daily does of complete utter fear mongering and misery.

Its news that's relevant. Factual information is not fear mongering. I cant predict how anyone will react. Good few on here seem to appreciate the posts.

Goldengirl · 06-09-2020 08:03PM

is_that_so wrote: »

They are more consistent and apparently stable.

And slowly rising every week !

GooglePlus · 06-09-2020 08:05PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Its news that's relevant. Factual information is not fear mongering. I cant predict how anyone will react. Good few on here seem to appreciate the posts.

Positive tweets are fine. Please refrain from anything else.

mr zulu · 06-09-2020 08:05PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Its news that's relevant. Factual information is not fear mongering. I cant predict how anyone will react. Good few on here seem to appreciate the posts.

Yes, they say misery loves company.

Goldengirl · 06-09-2020 08:06PM

khalessi wrote: »

Originally Posted by cityboyjim View Post
I have been dropping into Boards a few times each week to have a look, and sometimes dropped out just as fast .The odd interesting and informative post and the rest .Well now lets just say people have time on their hands and like using the old keyboard to maybe stir a bit of controversy.The result being that nobody takes whats said here as even remotely solid and reliable information.
The bottom line is that this pandemic has now killed 880.000 people .
Infected 27,000,000 .
Young people are so complacent its mind boggling .
Nurses and Doctors are putting themselves at risk every day they get up ..
Not just themselves but their families also .
Schools should be running 7 days a week .Three days attendance one week and four the next .Community Centers should be used as classrooms .At risk teachers would be safer by doing this .
Proper compensation for country pubs and stay closed until there is a vaccine .Not going to be financially viable for small bars to open anyway due to the restrictions that will be put in place .Much safer and financially sensible to keep our cases down and out hospitals able to function better in order to cope with all the other illnesses out there .
Town centers to be policed more .Not just at night .Large shopping centers number restricted .
GAA seemed to work so far . All Ireland championship should be changed to knock out with all games streamed or televised .
See out 2020 and Astra Zenica to come good in the new year .Thanks

Not a bad post
Just wondering how schools being open 7 days a week would work?

Is there any other job that works 7 days a week with no days off.

Would have to work a different schedule , 2 days off a week. Like nurses and other public servants.
At least they wouldn't be doing nights !

Jim_Hodge · 06-09-2020 08:06PM

khalessi wrote: »

Are you suggesting splitting classes in half?

Not my idea.

I don't think it's even worth considering but in theory why couldn't a school, like any business or service, be able to operate seven days a week. Someone asked I answered that particular angle.

khalessi · 06-09-2020 08:07PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

khalessi wrote: »

Originally Posted by cityboyjim View Post
I have been dropping into Boards a few times each week to have a look, and sometimes dropped out just as fast .The odd interesting and informative post and the rest .Well now lets just say people have time on their hands and like using the old keyboard to maybe stir a bit of controversy.The result being that nobody takes whats said here as even remotely solid and reliable information.
The bottom line is that this pandemic has now killed 880.000 people .
Infected 27,000,000 .
Young people are so complacent its mind boggling .
Nurses and Doctors are putting themselves at risk every day they get up ..
Not just themselves but their families also .
Schools should be running 7 days a week .Three days attendance one week and four the next .Community Centers should be used as classrooms .At risk teachers would be safer by doing this .
Proper compensation for country pubs and stay closed until there is a vaccine .Not going to be financially viable for small bars to open anyway due to the restrictions that will be put in place .Much safer and financially sensible to keep our cases down and out hospitals able to function better in order to cope with all the other illnesses out there .
Town centers to be policed more .Not just at night .Large shopping centers number restricted .
GAA seemed to work so far . All Ireland championship should be changed to knock out with all games streamed or televised .
See out 2020 and Astra Zenica to come good in the new year .Thanks

Would have to work a different schedule , 2 days off a week. Like nurses and other public servants.
At least they wouldn't be doing nights !

I get the shift thing I am a nurse. What I am trying to understand is how working 7 days a week works for schools. Are ye talking splitting classes? How would you see it working?

Goldengirl · 06-09-2020 08:11PM

s1ippy wrote: »

And yet people on the front lines there have said that distancing is impossible with the volume of people expected to be in the spaces.

They've certainly made sure that narrative is circulating. Is covid caught in school "good covid" so but if it's caught in a restaurant it's bad and your own fault? Not to mention the fact that they're seeking to lay the blame at teachers' feet when

"If all appropriate measures were taken by the index adult, then any additional precautions do not apply for any person who is not classified as a close contact."

Yeah he's definitely trustworthy. You must be joking, it's plain to see that he has an issue with how things have been done and is prevented from speaking frankly. He always defers to Nolan when he is expected to say something which contravenes the scientific evidence, which is why Nolan was suddenly some sort of expert on schools last week, calculating how many friends children have and nonsense like that.

Blended learning, staggered classes, hiring more permanent teachers and hiring new facilities would have all helped but that would have required planning, preparation and investment of money on an unprecedented scale

When it comes to our education system, we have just never done that. It's possibly why the population are so polarised; they don't have the level of learning required to be able to parse and absorb the information given through the various channels, some of which is unreliable nonsense. America are trying the same experiment now, defund the education system and hope the ignorant heaving mass consumes itself, which is exactly what's happening.

Agree 100%
Should have gone with 50% in, and 50% Google classroom for a few months until spread through school estimated, for secondary at least .

And for those that keep saying schools back a week , most secondary schools are only back a couple of hours induction at this stage , so it will be at least 2 more weeks before that sxxx hits the fan .
Especially as most teens will spread it just as much if not more than adults .

Plumbthedepths · 06-09-2020 08:12PM

mr zulu wrote: »

Yes, they say misery loves company.

Good one. ;-)

GooglePlus · 06-09-2020 08:14PM

mr zulu wrote: »

Yes, they say misery loves company.

People who shut down factual information that they don't like, closing their eyes and covering their ears, are the worst of the lot. Only open to one line of thought and therefore never open to learn anything.

fritzelly · 06-09-2020 08:15PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Its news that's relevant. Factual information is not fear mongering. I cant predict how anyone will react. Good few on here seem to appreciate the posts.

Of course the IFR is gonna be higher - we have vaccines for the flu and know how to treat it

No big surprise that coronavirus is currently higher

More scare mongering waffle from that nutritionist

drunkmonkey · 06-09-2020 08:19PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Worrying data from the CDC

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1302678426319564805

The New Orleans metropolitan statistical area ranks among the worst in the United States for the percentage of residents with diabetes, high blood pressure and obesity, a Reuters analysis of CDC data shows. An estimated 39% have high blood pressure, 36% are obese and about 15% have diabetes.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-new-orleans/why-is-new-orleans-coronavirus-death-rate-twice-new-yorks-obesity-is-a-factor-idUSKBN21K1B0

While that explains New Orleans, it's still bad news as were a nation of fatties ourselves.

khalessi · 06-09-2020 08:23PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Agree 100%
Should have gone with 50% in, and 50% Google classroom for a few months until spread through school estimated, for secondary at least .

And for those that keep saying schools back a week , most secondary schools are only back a coup,e of hours induction at this stage , so it will be at least 2 more weeks before that sxxx hits the fan .
Especially as most teens will spread it just as much if not more than adults .

Not just teens, from 10 years up.

Gruffalux · 06-09-2020 08:27PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Of course the IFR is gonna be higher - we have vaccines for the flu and know how to treat it

No big surprise that coronavirus is currently higher

More scare mongering waffle from that nutritionist

Stop with the silliness. Eric whatshisname did not make up scare mongering waffle. The tweet references a paper hosted on the CDC website. You might not like it, Louisiana may have been badly affected, there may be special circumstances, etc etc but it was not waffle from a nutirtionist. It was scientists researching data and they say -

"Using a novel recruitment method and paired molecular and antibody testing for severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 infection, we determined seroprevalence in a racially diverse municipality in Louisiana, USA. Infections were highly variable by ZIP code and differed by race/ethnicity. Overall census-weighted seroprevalence was 6.9%, and the calculated infection fatality ratio was 1.63%."

It is not made up. It may not apply to here. One can hear bad news and one can hear good news and in between news and manage to hold all in the brain without imploding. It is so fcuking boring reading people non stop attack the posters who post what ye call doom mongering. Scroll past it. Post the good news instead. Bring the balance. Light the beacons. But eff off with the constant harrassment of people who post stuff that does not suit you.

wadacrack · 06-09-2020 08:29PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Of course the IFR is gonna be higher - we have vaccines for the flu and know how to treat it

No big surprise that coronavirus is currently higher

More scare mongering waffle from that nutritionist

I'm not sure how sharing Data from the CDC is waffle. If the number was lower I'd imagine you wouldn't be saying that. Yet the T Cell theories receive alot of praise on here but yet to be any credible evidence of them playing as much of a role as many claim/Interestingly the rate is lower in people of Asian ethnicity . I think this may be due to obesity rates being lower and thus less commodities

Non solum non ambulabit · 06-09-2020 08:33PM

joeguevara wrote: »

Nasopharyngeal swabs are recommended to be taken and if autopsy is required lung swabs are taken to test for Covid. Again only where it is believed it’s attributable. Car crash victims as an example wouldn’t need. If positive Covid before death, not required. Again this is when there is resources and if huge deaths and hospitalisations may be an issue.

Surely people dying at home or in a nursing are not tested post death.

joeguevara · 06-09-2020 08:37PM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

Surely people dying at home or in a nursing are not tested post death.

For after death it is Recommended they are but probably not. Unless there is some suspicion or risk to other people. But if they had been tested and were positive and died between two weeks of that and it’s attributable it will be included in the figures.

froog · 06-09-2020 08:37PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Worrying data from the CDC

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1302678426319564805

i mean you can't just take one relatively small sample size and make a conclusion like that. who knows what other factors are at play in new orleans - the median age is 36 there which is pretty high. there's also a lot of poverty there - poor diets etc. it's also 60% black and we know mortality is much higher for blacks.

06-09-2020 08:37PM

https://twitter.com/FatEmperor/status/1302677892267204609?s=20

Maybe we don't need herd immunity of 70%. We could be a lot closer than we think...

Non solum non ambulabit · 06-09-2020 08:42PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FatEmperor/status/1302677892267204609?s=20

Great news if true. Would really be a game changer considering the extremely high level of assympthomatic cases we are finding now.

TonyMaloney · 06-09-2020 08:43PM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

Great news if true. Would really be a game changer considering the extremely high level of assympthomatic cases we are finding now.

what percentage are asymptomatic?

odyssey06 · 06-09-2020 08:45PM

That would be huge finding for spread.

In the short term though asymptomatic could be presymptomatic... it is only after X days can say asymptomatic.

Non solum non ambulabit · 06-09-2020 08:47PM

We've been on 1777 deaths since August 22nd. Absolutely superb numbers and should not be lost in our obsession with case numbers.

Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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