Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

Lyle · 06-09-2020 05:39PM

DangerScouse wrote: »

Is that high for a Sunday?

Highest since early May, yeah.

But these daily figures are bunk. Wait for the averages to come out. Can't trust the daily case reporting anymore.

Ohmeha · 06-09-2020 05:41PM

7 day average today goes into the 130 range, better idea by Tuesday evening whether we are starting to see another rise in cases

Day Month Date Cases 7 Day
Monday August 17th 56 79.43
Tuesday August 18th 190 101.57
Wednesday August 19th 54 103.57
Thursday August 20th 136 109.86
Friday August 21st 79 111.57
Saturday August 22nd 156 105.29
Sunday August 23rd 61 104.57
Monday August 24th 147 117.57
Tuesday August 25th 92 103.57
Wednesday August 26th 164 119.29
Thursday August 27th 93 113.14
Friday August 28th 127 120.00
Saturday August 29th 142 118.00
Sunday August 30th 42 115.29
Monday August 31st 53 101.86
Tuesday September 1st 217 119.71
Wednesday September 2nd 89 109.00
Thursday September 3rd 95 109.29
Friday September 4th 98 105.14
Saturday September 5th 231 117.86
Sunday September 6th 138 131.57

wadacrack · 06-09-2020 05:41PM

Lyle wrote: »

Highest since early May, yeah.

But these daily figures are bunk. Wait for the averages to come out. Can't trust the daily case reporting anymore.

Their usual low after a high number which makes today's tally more worrying

What Username Guidelines · 06-09-2020 05:43PM

Maybe I’m being optimistic and hoping they’ve sorted the lag and we won’t see a jump at the start of the week.

Lyle · 06-09-2020 05:44PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Their usual low after a high number which makes today's tally more worrying

True, but the 7 day average is around the same as today's case count in the 130s, so it is still average.

Call Me Jimmy · 06-09-2020 05:46PM

Has the relationship between cases and deaths / hosptialisations not changed since the start?

A case rise of x amount now surely doesn't mean the same thing as it did early on in the outbreak. (I've not been following things closely).

wadacrack · 06-09-2020 05:47PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Maybe I’m being optimistic and hoping they’ve sorted the lag and we won’t see a jump at the start of the week.

Will be probably some stricker restrictions in Dublin within 10 days, Virgin media reporters emphasized the the high rates in Dublin nearly 200 this weekend. The media have been very much in the know throughout this. No statement also from Ronan Glynn. Hopefully I'm wrong but its not looking good.

odyssey06 · 06-09-2020 05:48PM

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

Has the relationship between cases and deaths / hosptialisations not changed since the start?

A case rise of x amount now surely doesn't mean the same thing as it did early on in the outbreak. (I've not been following things closely).

At the peak of the outbreak even with symptoms you couldn't get tested - needed to foreign travel, healthcare worker or vulnerable group. So for every positive test figure there was some multiple who had it but weren't tested.
Now it is less likely there is such a multiple and the cases are the cases.
Picking up a lot more asymptomatic people as testing close contacts work places etc.

Strumms · 06-09-2020 05:52PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

Dublin north central hospot - that's Beaumont hospital right?

Parts of ...

Beaumont

Clontarf

Drumcondra

Edenmore

Grace park

Harmonstown

Kilmore

political analyst · 06-09-2020 05:53PM

Why was the late Sally Maaz placed in a Covid ward even though the result of the test she had undergone was negative? If the staff who put her there didn't know her test had come back negative and then she had told them, why did they still put her in that ward?

bpb101 · 06-09-2020 05:53PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Will be probably some stricker restrictions in Dublin within 10 days, Virgin media reporters emphasized the the high rates in Dublin nearly 200 this weekend. The media have been very much in the know throughout this. No statement also from Ronan Glynn. Hopefully I'm wrong but its not looking good.

What can you bring in?
If you close restaurants/pubs you have to close hotels really as well. Or are you going to allow hotel only to see food?
Or do the local lockdown. Only food/drinks outside. Could be another storm tomorrow
We could do something like that for small countries, but cant really do it to Dublin

Being in Dublin myself, and not against it but saying only have 6 people over to your house was pointless restriction as its not enforable

Always_Running · 06-09-2020 05:53PM

Going by the positive swabs the previous few Sundays was high also but cases was held back and reported on different days.

MerlinSouthDub · 06-09-2020 05:55PM

bpb101 wrote: »

What can you bring in?
If you close restaurants/pubs you have to close hotels really as well. Or are you going to allow hotel only to see food?
Or do the local lockdown. Only food/drinks outside. Could be another storm tomorrow
We could do something like that for small countries, but cant really do it to Dublin

Being in Dublin myself, and not against it but saying only have 6 people over to your house was pointless restriction as its not enforable

I don't think they will lockdown Dublin, it would have too big an economic impact. They might lockdown an area of Dublin, but with more severe restrictions than the LOK down. Closing pubs, restaurants and possibly schools for a couple of weeks.

landofthetree · 06-09-2020 05:59PM

138 cases; 0 deaths
Previous Sundays:
30/08: 42
23/08: 61
16/08: 66
09/08: 68
02/08: 53
26/07: 12
19/07: 10

5-day average: 130.2

7-day average: 131.57
(Previous 7 days: 115.29)

14-day cases/100k: 34.72
(7 days ago: 30.92)

In hospital: 49
In ICU: 6

is_that_so · 06-09-2020 06:01PM

Always_Running wrote: »

Going by the positive swabs the previous few Sundays was high also but cases was held back and reported on different days.

This may well be the contact tracing associated with them.

bpb101 · 06-09-2020 06:02PM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

I don't think they will lockdown Dublin, it would have too big an economic impact. They might lockdown an area of Dublin, but with more severe restrictions than the LOK down. Closing pubs, restaurants and possibly schools for a couple of weeks.

Its about people moving. Need to reduce movements
Opening schools themselves is low risk, its about more people on public transport, parents seeing other parents and just general society moving about.
We need to reduce that
Going to be quite hard as we move into the winter as people cant socialise as much Outdoor

06-09-2020 06:04PM

bpb101 wrote: »

What can you bring in?
If you close restaurants/pubs you have to close hotels really as well. Or are you going to allow hotel only to see food?
Or do the local lockdown. Only food/drinks outside. Could be another storm tomorrow
We could do something like that for small countries, but cant really do it to Dublin

Being in Dublin myself, and not against it but saying only have 6 people over to your house was pointless restriction as its not enforable

Restrict their travel in area of Dublin affected
Close pubs restaurants hotels in area
Ban visitors in people's homes in that area.
Schools other workplaces stay open.

Simple

is_that_so · 06-09-2020 06:04PM

landofthetree wrote: »

138 cases; 0 deaths
Previous Sundays:
30/08: 42
23/08: 61
16/08: 66
09/08: 68
02/08: 53
26/07: 12
19/07: 10

5-day average: 130.2

7-day average: 131.57
(Previous 7 days: 115.29)

14-day cases/100k: 34.72
(7 days ago: 30.92)

In hospital: 49
In ICU: 6

ICU total has stayed low for a good while, which is a positive.

US2 · 06-09-2020 06:08PM

bpb101 wrote: »

Its about people moving. Need to reduce movements
Opening schools themselves is low risk, its about more people on public transport, parents seeing other parents and just general society moving about.
We need to reduce that
Going to be quite hard as we move into the winter as people cant socialise as much Outdoor

So thousands of kids sitting beside each other is low risk but the parents on buses is a concern? Give your head a wobble

StevenToast · 06-09-2020 06:10PM

Low ICU and low death rate....interesting...suggests we keep elderly and vulnerable under lock and key...open up everything else...

SimonTemplar · 06-09-2020 06:11PM

landofthetree wrote: »

138 cases; 0 deaths
Previous Sundays:
30/08: 42
23/08: 61
16/08: 66
09/08: 68
02/08: 53
26/07: 12
19/07: 10

5-day average: 130.2

7-day average: 131.57
(Previous 7 days: 115.29)

14-day cases/100k: 34.72
(7 days ago: 30.92)

In hospital: 49
In ICU: 6

What source are you using for the population for the per 100k calculation?

Blondini · 06-09-2020 06:11PM

StevenToast wrote: »

Low ICU and low death rate....interesting...suggests we keep elderly and vulnerable under lock and key...open up everything else...

A lot of vulnerable people have to work to live unfortunately.

bpb101 · 06-09-2020 06:12PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Restrict their travel in area of Dublin affected
Close pubs restaurants hotels in area
Ban visitors in people's homes in that area.
Schools other workplaces stay open.

Simple

Not really
Dublin has over 1 million people. If you do that(which im not against) then you have impacted the entire country

Stop travel outside dublin. Okay that means every hotel in the county will lose on adverage 1/3 of its booking. Will this make it so its not worth some hotels opening else where

Close hotels. Then everybody else in the country who was going to dublin is effected.
Have several hundred thousand people going to Dublin for work
All of this and not really effective
Easier and more effective to do it nation wide

Coolfresian · 06-09-2020 06:14PM

jaffa20 wrote: »

Only 6 in ICU. That's what's important and no deaths for 2 weeks.

How do we know there have been no deaths? People keep missing this point. The last death notified was from June. So that suggests a big lag in notification of deaths. If any have recently occured they may not be notified for another 2/3 months or am I wrong?

blowitupref · 06-09-2020 06:14PM

114 more cases this week compared last week but a lot more testing done this week. How much more won't be known until tomorrow I'd reckon close to 10,000 more.

The good news is to have two weeks without a death and single figures in ICU.

DebDynamite · 06-09-2020 06:15PM

bpb101 wrote: »

What can you bring in?
If you close restaurants/pubs you have to close hotels really as well. Or are you going to allow hotel only to see food?
Or do the local lockdown. Only food/drinks outside. Could be another storm tomorrow
We could do something like that for small countries, but cant really do it to Dublin

Being in Dublin myself, and not against it but saying only have 6 people over to your house was pointless restriction as its not enforable

They could have mandatory quarantine for anyone flying in from Covid hot-spots. Anyone caught being out and about gets fined (barring the usual people who are exempt - essential workers, etc). Covid test after 5 days quarantine - negative and you’re good to go. Holiday season is over, so there’ll be far less people travelling now anyway, and a lot of people are working from home, so won’t affect them either. Germany are doing it, I don’t see why we would be unable to enforce it. The Germans suspect their rise is cases is due to international travel during the summer months, so they’re getting tough on it. I would suspect it’s also played a big part in our rise in cases.

But sure we’ll just make sure pubs/restaurants keep a record or all food consumed for 28 days, and not let anyone attend an outdoor football match. That’ll solve everything :rolleyes:

stevek93 · 06-09-2020 06:18PM

Strumms wrote: »

Parts of ...

Beaumont

Clontarf

Drumcondra

Edenmore

Grace park

Harmonstown

Kilmore

Oh dear god I am on this list. :eek:

bpb101 · 06-09-2020 06:19PM

US2 wrote: »

So thousands of kids sitting beside each other is low risk but the parents on buses is a concern? Give your head a wobble

Actually love your insult to be fair. “Give your head a wobble” credit where due

What i mean is, if children going to school may have a relatively low risk, but if more kids are in school, more people will be in work, more people using public transport ect

bpb101 · 06-09-2020 06:21PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

They could have mandatory quarantine for anyone flying in from Covid hot-spots. Anyone caught being out and about gets fined (barring the usual people who are exempt - essential workers, etc). Covid test after 5 days quarantine - negative and you’re good to go. Holiday season is over, so there’ll be far less people travelling now anyway, and a lot of people are working from home, so won’t affect them either. Germany are doing it, I don’t see why we would be unable to enforce it. The Germans suspect their rise is cases is due to international travel during the summer months, so they’re getting tough on it. I would suspect it’s also played a big part in our rise in cases.

But sure we’ll just make sure pubs/restaurants keep a record or all food consumed for 28 days, and not let anytime attend an outdoors football match. That’ll solve everything :rolleyes:

The “quarantine” rule from the start has been a disaster
Well, if a garda through all the recipts for the last 28 days in a restaurant, at least he should now whats good to have there

Funsterdelux · 06-09-2020 06:22PM

stevek93 wrote: »

Oh dear god I am on this list. :eek:

Is your real name Grace Park?

Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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