Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

niallo27 · 05-09-2020 08:09PM

Out drinking pints. Place is packed. Do I feel bad, no **** it.

B.A._Baracus · 05-09-2020 08:10PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Out drinking pints. Place is packed. Do I feel bad, no **** it.

Town right? (Dublin)
I imagine it would be packed alright.

Plumbthedepths · 05-09-2020 08:11PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

If it's from a large group of people who know each other, different households, meeting up occasionally, sharing transport, mingling, chatting etc... huge number of contacts to follow up in case of an infection.

It's a totally different situation to a random group of 20 people who don't know each other outdoors engaged in the same personal hobby.

A child can only have 6 friends at their party in their own home.
50 adults can go on the lash at a party if its a wedding.
Come on even you have to admit some of these restrictions are beyond ridiculous.

podgeandrodge · 05-09-2020 08:13PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Sorry I've been really busy at work and I've a family to take care of, so unfortunately the formula has been put into retirement for the foreseeable future.

That's fair enough. But given the importance of this work, you should share the formula on here - I'm sure there would be some willing to consider your work to date.

drunkmonkey · 05-09-2020 08:14PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

If it's from a large group of people who know each other, different households, meeting up occasionally, sharing transport, mingling, chatting etc... huge number of contacts to follow up in case of an infection.

It's a totally different situation to a random group of 20 people who don't know each other outdoors engaged in the same personal hobby.

Nah not seeing the major difference, outdoors is outdoors, it's not going to hang around in the air like an indoor venue.
No restrictions if you want to be outdoors anything else is communism.

JP Liz V1 · 05-09-2020 08:16PM

231 is that highest in a long while, is most in Dublin?

drunkmonkey · 05-09-2020 08:16PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

A child can only have 6 friends at their party in their own home.
50 adults can go on the lash at a party if its a wedding.
Come on even you have to admit some of these restrictions are beyond ridiculous.

I've my boot here ready with a fork and knife if that happens:D

odyssey06 · 05-09-2020 08:19PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

A child can only have 6 friends at their party in their own home.
50 adults can go on the lash at a party if its a wedding.
Come on even you have to admit some of these restrictions are beyond ridiculous.

NPHET proposed similar restrictions on weddings.
They were over-ruled.
Maybe it should be 6 for all.
Maybe the restrictions are unnecessary.
But the inconsistency is not from NPHET on this one.

odyssey06 · 05-09-2020 08:20PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Nah not seeing the major difference, outdoors is outdoors, it's not going to hang around in the air like an indoor venue.
No restrictions if you want to be outdoors anything else is communism.

I think the communists used to have pretty packed sporting stadiums.
They even had obligatory attendance at parades.
You have no idea what you're talking about.

ACitizenErased · 05-09-2020 08:28PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

231 is that highest in a long while, is most in Dublin?

133 in Dublin

phormium · 05-09-2020 08:30PM

The amount of weddings going ahead with the under 50 rule which includes hotel staff is miniscule compared to normal numbers, I'm in wedding business and I do not have one couple proceeding this year, had one postponed to November and they cancelled that the other day, next scheduled order is in February which will not be going ahead either if numbers still at 50.

Happydays2020 · 05-09-2020 08:31PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

133 in Dublin

Wait for the calls for a Dublin lockdown.

Roger_007 · 05-09-2020 08:33PM

In the early stages the official advice was that there was no benefit in wearing masks and that in fact mask-wearing could actually help to spread the virus. The rates of transmission dropped to very low levels without general mask-wearing.
It seems to me that the increase in mask-wearing has coincided with the increase in transmission of the virus.
Maybe the original advice on masks was correct after all?

fritzelly · 05-09-2020 08:33PM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Wait for the calls for a Dublin lockdown.

We call it a lockin

Plumbthedepths · 05-09-2020 08:38PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

NPHET proposed similar restrictions on weddings.
They were over-ruled.
Maybe it should be 6 for all.
Maybe the restrictions are unnecessary.
But the inconsistency is not from NPHET on this one.

Nphet's job is to advise. They don't have the authority to impose restrictions.
I asked your opinion on the two examples I gave. I noticed you gave a non answer. That's fine.

boggerman1 · 05-09-2020 08:39PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

In the early stages the official advice was that there was no benefit in wearing masks and that in fact mask-wearing could actually help to spread the virus. The rates of transmission dropped to very low levels without general mask-wearing.
It seems to me that the increase in mask-wearing has coincided with the increase in transmission of the virus.
Maybe the original advice on masks was correct after all?

Don’t let common sense be put in here.most people against mask wearing know this to be true but the maskiz shower knew better on bloody Twitter so suck it up.

Boggles · 05-09-2020 08:40PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

In the early stages the official advice was that there was no benefit in wearing masks and that in fact mask-wearing could actually help to spread the virus. The rates of transmission dropped to very low levels without general mask-wearing.
It seems to me that the increase in mask-wearing has coincided with the increase in transmission of the virus.
Maybe the original advice on masks was correct after all?

Yeah you are probably right - masks are infecting people en masse, or the increase in transmission could be to do, with you know, the lifting of restrictions?

Just an alternative theory.

Next topic.

Why was 4G grand but 5G will kill your Granny?

devondudley · 05-09-2020 08:41PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

In the early stages the official advice was that there was no benefit in wearing masks and that in fact mask-wearing could actually help to spread the virus. The rates of transmission dropped to very low levels without general mask-wearing.
It seems to me that the increase in mask-wearing has coincided with the increase in transmission of the virus.
Maybe the original advice on masks was correct after all?

My god

Professor Moriarty · 05-09-2020 08:42PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

In the early stages the official advice was that there was no benefit in wearing masks and that in fact mask-wearing could actually help to spread the virus. The rates of transmission dropped to very low levels without general mask-wearing.
It seems to me that the increase in mask-wearing has coincided with the increase in transmission of the virus.
Maybe the original advice on masks was correct after all?

Is there any proper recent research to indicate that mask wearing is dangerous? Or pointless?

jackboy · 05-09-2020 08:46PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Is there any proper recent research to indicate that mask wearing is dangerous? Or pointless?

No, but that’s what most of the top Irish scientists and politicians claimed at the start of the pandemic. This is very important as it demonstrates that unfortunately our scientists and politicians are not credible and can’t be trusted.

BobbyMalone · 05-09-2020 08:49PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

In the early stages the official advice was that there was no benefit in wearing masks and that in fact mask-wearing could actually help to spread the virus. The rates of transmission dropped to very low levels without general mask-wearing.
It seems to me that the increase in mask-wearing has coincided with the increase in transmission of the virus.
Maybe the original advice on masks was correct after all?

I wonder if it might be more due to everybody interacting more since the restrictions were eased, as well as a significant increase in testing?

Boggles · 05-09-2020 08:51PM

jackboy wrote: »

No, but that’s what most of the top Irish scientists and politicians claimed at the start of the pandemic. This is very important as it demonstrates that unfortunately our scientists and politicians are not credible and can’t be trusted.

If you were duped by it.

Anyone with half a brain cell would have known that masks are an effective tool at suppressing the transmission of a respiratory airborne disease.

As for the window licking anti mask / anti science / anti vax loons / 5G gives you Aids, if it were illegal to wear one, those dribblers would insist on wearing them because of their fraydumbs!

Non solum non ambulabit · 05-09-2020 08:52PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

69% of today's reported cases are under the age of 45.

Which tallies with our population under 45. Just over 60% of our population is under 45. These are the people working in the jobs that expose them to the virus more

05-09-2020 08:53PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

In the early stages the official advice was that there was no benefit in wearing masks and that in fact mask-wearing could actually help to spread the virus. The rates of transmission dropped to very low levels without general mask-wearing.
It seems to me that the increase in mask-wearing has coincided with the increase in transmission of the virus.
Maybe the original advice on masks was correct after all?

I really hope you are not being serious here. Did you really think before you posted this? I despair.

spookwoman · 05-09-2020 08:53PM

Rolling Week ending totals
Cases / Deaths
Day|Date|Cases|Deaths|Case Denot|Death Denot|Total Cases|Total Deaths|Week Avg|Week Tot
Sat|22/08/2020|156|2|3|1|27,908|1,777|105.29|737
|Totals|737|6|20|3|27,908| 1,777| 105.29| 737
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Sat|29/08/2020|142|0|1|0|28,720|1,777|118.00|826
|Totals|826|0|14|0|28,720|1,777| 118.00|826
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Sun|30/08/2020|42|0|2|0|28,760|1,777|115.29|807
Mon|31/08/2020|53|0|2|0|28,811|1,777|101.86|713
Tue|01/09/2020|217|0|3|0|29,025|1,777|119.71|838
Wed|02/09/2020|89|1|0|1|29,225|1,777|109.00|763
Thur|03/09/2020|95|0|3|0|29,206|1,777|109.29|765
Fri|04/09/2020|98|0|1|0|29,303|1,777|105.14|736
Sat|05/09/2020|231|0|0|0|29,534|1,777|117.86|825
|Totals|825|1|11|1|29,534|1,777|117.86|825

Hospital Data (Gov.ie) 2 Days Behind
Day|Date|Hospital|Inc|ICU|Inc|Deaths|Inc|Healthcare workers|Inc|Clusters|Inc|Cases Assoc|Inc|
Thur|20/08/2020|3,394|+1|443|-|1,519|+1|8,542|+6|2,577|-|15,139|+5
|Totals|-|10|-|2|-|3|-|58|-|100|-|362
Thur|27/08/2020|3,386|+2|446|-|1,520|+1|8,608|+10|2,734|+78|15,733|+218
|Totals|-|-8|-|3|-|1|-|66|-|157|-|594
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Fri|29/08/2020|3,394|+8|446|-|1,519|-1|8,621|+13|2,741|+7|15,743|+10
Sat|30/08/2020|3,400|+6|446|-|1,519|-|8,628|+7|2,741|-|15,751|+8
Sun|31/08/2020|3,405|+5|446|-|1,519|-|8,637|+9|2,733|-8|15,764|+13
Mon|31/08/2020|3,411|+6|447|+1|1,519|-|8,660|+23|2,783|+50|15,902|+138
Tue|01/09/2020|3,415|+4|447|-|1,519|-|8,678|+18|2,810|+27|15,964|+62
Wed|02/09/2020|3,412|-3|447|-|1,519|-|8,695|+17|2,826|+16|16,025|+61
Thur|03/09/2020|3,418|+6|448|+1|1,519|-|8,719|+24|2,848|+22|16,107|+82
Totals|-|-|[B32[/B]|-|1|-|-1|-|111|-|114|-|374|

HSE Beds (HSE.ie) Released approx. 10pm at night
CC = Critical Care
Day|Date|Total CC Beds|Inc|Tot CC Beds Open|Inc|Tot Occupied CC|Inc|Occupied Covid|Inc|Available Adult CC Public|Inc|Vacant Gen|Inc|Adult Pub|Inc|Paed|Inc|Private|Inc
Fri|21/08/20|428|-|351|+5|279|-11|6|-|46|+7|456|+147|46|+7|5|+1|10|+6
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Fri|28/08/20|426|-|355|-|286|-3|5|-|41|+1|290|-22|41|+1|6|+4|9|+1
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Sat|29/08/20|431|+5|355|-|286|-3|5|-|42|+1|667|+377|42|+1|7|+1|18|+9
Sun|30/08/20|435|+4|356|+1|281|-5|5|-|47|+5|530|-137|47|+5|6|-1|21|+3
Mon|31/08/20|436|+1|351|-5|276|-5|6|+1|41|-6|238|-292|41|-6|6|-|14|-7
Tue|01/09/20|437|+1|356|+5|287|+11|6|-|41|-|262|+24|41|-|1|-5|12|-2
Wed|02/09/20|441|+4|348|-8|287|-|6|-|39|-2|283|+21|39|-2|2|+1|9|-3
Thur|03/09/20|440|-1|350|+2|291|+4|7|+1|40|+1|299|+16|40|+1|1|-1|8|-1
Fri|04/09/20|440|-|347|-3|283|-8|7|-|49|+9|358|+59|49|+9|3|+2|6|-2

HSE Critical Care Covid 19 Data(HSE.ie) Released approx. 10pm at night
CC = Critical Care
Day|Date|Confirmed CC|Suspected CC|Confirmed CC Deaths|Suspected CC Deaths|Confirmed Ventilated|Suspected Ventilated
Fri|21/08/20|6|6|0|0|3|1
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Fri|28/08/20|5|6|0|0|3|1
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Sat|29/08/20|5|10|0|0|3|6
Sun|30/08/20|5|14|0|0|4|6
Mon|31/08/20|6|11|0|0|5|1
Tue|01/09/20|6|15|0|0|6|5
Wed|02/09/20|6|9|0|0|6|5
Thur|03/09/20|7|6|0|0|6|3
Fri|04/09/20|7|7|0|0|6|4

Transmission week totals (Gov.ie 2 days behind and Daily Press Release)
Day|Date|Community|%|%Inc|Close Contact|%|%Inc|Travel%|Unknown
Wed|19/08/2020|8|30.4%|+.1%|27|66.6%|+.2%|2.4%|-
Thur|20/08/2020|11|30.5%|+.1%|57|66.6%|-|2.4%|-
Fri|21/08/2020|21|30.7%|+.2%|30|66.3%|-.3%|2.4%|0.7%
Sat|22/08/2020|15|30.7%|-|68|66.2%|-.1%|2.4%|0.7%
Totals||84|||304|-|-|-|
|-|-||-|-|-|-|-|-|
Wed|26/08/2020|21|30.2%|-.1%|80|66.8%|+.2%|2.4|0.6%
Thur|27/08/2020|12|30.2%|-|73|66.7%|-.1%|2.5%|0.7%
Fri|28/08/2020|8|30.3%|+.1%|66|66.4%|-.3%|2.5%|0.9%
Sat|29/08/2020|19|-30.2%|-.1%|32|66.5%|+.1%|2.5%|0.8%
|-|-||-|-|-|-|-|-|
Totals||101|||380|-|-|-|
Sun|30/08/20|6|30.1%|-.1%|15|60.7%|+.2%|2.5%|0.8%
Mon|31/08/20|14|30.2%|+.1%|27|66.6%|-.1%|2.5%|0.8%
Tue|01/09/20|19|30.1%|-.1%|103|66.6%|-|2.5%|0.8%
Wed|02/09/2020|8|30.1%|-|53|66.7%|+.1%|2.5%|0.8%
Thur|03/09/2020|16|30.1%|-|47% 45±|66.7%|-|2.5%|0.8%
Fri|04/09/2020|9|-|-|42% 41±|-|-|-|-
Sat|05/09/2020|54|-|-|48% 111|-|-|-|-

Totals||126|||395±

Total 316 base on 47% (45±) of Thursdays and 42% (41±) Fridays number and Saturdays 48% 111.

No results released on a Sunday
Testing week totals (Hub)
Day|Date|Total|Hospital|Inc|Lab|Inc|Total Pos|%Pos|24 Tested|Week Tested|%Week Pos
Fri|21/08/20|760,601|287,630|2,475|472,971|10,605|31,008|4.1%|13,080|61,565|1.2%
Sat|22/08/20|767,359|289,900|2,270|477459|4,488|31,165|4.1%|6,758|57,670|1.3%
Totals||||17,357||40,313|773
Fri|28/08/20|814,875|306,356|3,013|508,519|9,290|31,822|3.9%|12,303|54,274|1.3%
Sat|29/08/20|824,712|308,879|2,523|515,833|7,314|21,934|3.9%|9,837|57,353|1.3%

Totals||||18,979||38,374|769

Sun|30/08/20|830,474|311,193|2,314|519,281|3,448|-|-|5,762|57,677|-
Mon|31/08/20|839,814|313,102|1,919|526,712|7,431|32,143|3.8%|9,340|62,179|1.2%
Tue|01/09/20|844,706|316,092|2,909|528,614|1,902|32,233|3.8%|4,892|62,056|1.2%
Wed|02/09/20|852,007|319,781|3,689|532,226|3,612|32,338|3.8%|7,301|61,709|1.2%
Thur|03/09/20|864,508|323,311|3,350|541,197|8,971|32,475|3.8%|12,501|61,936|1.2%
Fri|04/09/20|878,572|326,445|3,134|552,127|10,930|32,630|3.7%|14,064|63,697|1.3%
Sat|05/09/20|889,757|329,119|2,672|560,640|8,513|32,784|3.7%|11,185|64,942||1.35

Totals||||20,238||44,807|850

26/08/20 Hub discrepancy of 17, 7648 listed as 24hr total should be 7665.
05/09/20 Hub discrepancy of 64,942 listed as Week total should be 65,045
No Positive on Sundays

Age Affected 2 Days Behind
Day|Date|0-4|Inc|5-14|Inc|15-24|Inc|25-34|Inc|35-44|Inc|45-54|Inc|55-64|Inc|65-74|Inc|74-84|Inc|85+|Inc|?|Inc
Thur|20/08/20|260|+3|485|+5|2,347|+18|4,832|+20|4,873|-|4,883|-|3,426|+10|1,897|+3|2,324|-|2,386|-|21|-
Totals|-|-|23|-|66|-|161|-|171|-|120|-|92|-|70|-|31|-|4|-|5|-|0
|||||||||||||||||||||||
Thur|27/08/20|286|+1|549|+12|2,554|+33|4,996|+28|5,009|+27|5,009|+14|3,491|+7|1,928|+2|2,345|+2|2,388|-|23|+1
Totals|-|-|26|-|64|-|207|-|164|-|136|-|126|-|65|-|31|-|21|-|2|-|2
|||||||||||||||||||||||
Fri|28/08/20|290|+4|560|+11|2,579|+25|5,025|+29|5,036|+27|5,028|+19|3,503|+12|1,931|+3|2,352|+7|2,391|+3|23|-
Sat|29/08/20|293|+3|562|+2|2,591|+12|5,031|+6|5,041|+5|5,035|+7|3,505|+2|1,931|-|2,355|+3|2,391|-|23|-|1|-
Sun|30|08|2020|291|+1|567|+5|2,602|+11|5,041|+10|5,052|+11|5,038|+3|3,514|+9|1,930|-1|2,356|+1|2,391|-|23|-
Mon|31|08|2020|301|+7|590|+23|2,650|+48|5,083|+42|5,084|+32|5,067|+29|3,529|+15|1,938|+8|2,363|+7|2,397|+6|23|-
Tue|01/09/2020|303|+2|602|+12|2,675|+25|5,094|+11|5,089|+5|5,078|+11|3,536|+7|1,940|+2|2,369|+6|2,402|+5|23|-
Wed|02/09/2020|307|+4|612|+10|2,694|+19|5,109|+15|5,105|+16|5,087|+9|3,545|+9|1,947|+7|2,372|+3|2,403|+1|24|+1
Thur|03/09/2020|315|+8|622|+10|2,713|+19|5,127|+18|5,115|+10|5,101|+14|3,554|+9|1,947|-|2,374|+2|2,411|+8|24|-

Totals|-|-|29|-|73|-|159|-|131|-|106|-|92|-|63|-|19|-|29|-|23|-|1

Age Hospitalised 2 Days behind
Day|Date|0-4|Inc|5-14|Inc|15-24|Inc|25-34|Inc|35-44|Inc|45-54|Inc|55-64|Inc|65-74|Inc|74-84|Inc|85+|Inc|?|Inc
Thur|20/08/20|24|-|18|-|80|-|204|-|279|-|456|-|503|-|596|+1|753|-|480|+1|1|-
Totals|-|-|0|-|0|-|-1|-|1|-|2|-|3|-|1|-|3|-|0|-|1|-|0

Thur|27/08/20|25|-|18|-|78|-2|205|-|280|+1|454|-|502|+1|594|-|753|+2|476|-3|1|-
Totals|-|-|1|-|0|-|-2|-|1|-|1|-|-2|-|-1|-|-2|-|0|-|-4|-|0
Fri|28/08/20|25|-|18|-|79|+1|208|+3|280|-|456|+2|504|+2|594|-|753|-|476|-|1|-
Sat|29/08/20|26|+1|19|+1|81|+2|208|-|280|-|456|-|505|+1|594|-|754|+1|476|-|1|-
Sun|30/08/20|26|-|19|-|81|-|209|+1|282|+2|457|+1|505|-|595|+1|754|-|476|-|1|-
Mon|31/08/20|27|+1|19|-|82|+1|210|+1|281|-1|457|-|505|-|595|-|757|+3|477|+1|1|-
Tue|01/09/20|26|-1|19|-|82|-|210|-|280|-1|458|+1|504|-1|595|-|759|+2|481|+4|1|-
Wed|02/09/20|25|-1|19|-|80|-2|210|-|278|-2|458|-|503|-1|598|+3|759|-|481|-|1|-
Thur|03/09/20|26|+1|20|+1|81|+1|209|-1|278|-|458|-|504|+1|598|-|760|+1|483|+2|1|-

Totals|-|-|1|-|2|-|3|-|4|-|-2|-|4|-|2|-|4|-|7|-|7|-|0

County (Gov.ie) 2 Days behind
County|RW20/8|27/8|inc|Total|28/8|inc|29/8|inc|30/8|inc|31/8|inc|01/9|inc|02/9|inc|03/9|Inc|Total
Carlow|16|243|+4|27|244|+1|246|+2|246|-|247|+1|249|+2|251|+2|253|+2|10
Cavan|1|892|+2|9||892|-|892|-|892|-|895|+3|895|-|895|-|895|-|3
Clare|14|457|+2|15|461|+4|463|+2|465|+2|471|+6|473|+2|474|+1|477|+3|20
Cork|18|1,634|+1|24|1,638|+4|1,638|-|1,639|+1|16,41|+2|1,643|+2|1,645|+2|1,649|+4|15
Donegal|10|523|-|12|537|+14|537|-|537|-|540|+3|540|-|540|-|540|-|17
Dublin|238|13,272|+52|359|13,330|+58|13,352|+22|13,380|+28|13,483|+103|13,535|+52|13,587|+52|13,611|+24|339
Galway|8|514|+1|5|514|-|515|+1|515|-|517|+2|517|-|517|-|518|+1|4
Kerry|2|326|+1|3|328|+2|328|-|329|+1|328|-1|329|+1|330|+1|338|+8|12
Kildare|216|2,223|+1|98|2,243|+20|2,247|+4|2,247|-|2,272|+25|2,274|+2|2,280|+6|2,293|+13|70
Kilkenny|20|396|-1|11|398|+2|400|+2|400|-|400|-|404|+4|407|+4|413|+6|15
Laois|18|382|-|15|383|+1|383|-|384|+1|384|-|385|+1|387|+2|390|+3|8
Leitrim|0|85|-|0|85|-|85|-|85|-|85|-|85|-|86|-|87|+1|2
Limerick|45|722|+4|36|736|+14|742|+6|753|+11|770|+17|783|+13|785|+2|791|+6|69
Longford|2|294|+2|3|294|-|296|+2|300|+4|300|-|301|+1|302|+1|303|+1|9
Louth|13|824|+1|9|825|+1|825|-|825|-|830|+5|830|-|832|+2|838|+6|14
Mayo|3|587|-|1|588|+1|588|-|588|-|588|-|588|-|589|+1|589|-|2
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Roger_007 · 05-09-2020 08:53PM

Boggles wrote: »

Yeah you are probably right - masks are infecting people en masse, or the increase in transmission could be to do, with you know, the lifting of restrictions?

Just an alternative theory.

Next topic.

Why was 4G grand but 5G will kill your Granny?

There is absolutely no evidence that non-surgical masks prevent the spread of any virus. Surgical masks have a filter which traps the virus. Ordinary masks do not.
In any enclosed space the air which is exhaled by an infective person contains the virus, mask or no mask, and will be inhaled by others in that enclosed space.
Maybe if we could get people to stop exhaling................?

Plumbthedepths · 05-09-2020 08:54PM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

Which tallies with our population under 45

Fortunately it's not having a devastating affect on the younger generations.

odyssey06 · 05-09-2020 08:54PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

In the early stages the official advice was that there was no benefit in wearing masks and that in fact mask-wearing could actually help to spread the virus. The rates of transmission dropped to very low levels without general mask-wearing.
It seems to me that the increase in mask-wearing has coincided with the increase in transmission of the virus.
Maybe the original advice on masks was correct after all?

There is a masks thread already where this has been discussed and explained... All I will say here is:
* We didn't have mask wearing - we had severe restrictions on our movements and what businesses could open. That's how the transmisison dropped to low levels. Such measures cannot be sustained. Mask wearing can.
* Masks were being approached from the perspective of an uninfected person caring for an infected person. The type and handling of such masks as PPE needs to be very high to be effective
* And we didn't have enough such masks to protect those uninfected carers
* Now they are being recommended also as a barrier to contain an infected person from infecting an uninfected person. The standards for their use and types are much lower as a barrier.
* In March we didn't have the awareness that pre-symptomatic carriers are highly infectious before symptoms develop. They are the main target for masks as barriers. in community settings
* The countries which adopted mask wearing earlier did not experience any noticeable extra spreading of the virus and had less cases than non mask wearing countries

seanb85 · 05-09-2020 08:54PM

There's a photo on the journal of one of the pop up test centres in Dublin and you can see the security guard is wearing a visor but no mask, you really have to wonder sometimes....

ednwireland · 05-09-2020 08:55PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I really hope you are not being serious here. Did you really think before you posted this? I despair.

it's as logical as a lot of other correlations made on here and elsewhere during this pandemic.

Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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