Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

133 cases in Dublin, 18 Kildare.

Of all the people who shouldn't be out and about after everything, how in gods name are symptomatic health care workers rocking up to work, makes no sense.

"'I myself have gone into work while symptomatic' - Dr Ronan Glynn appeals to medical staff following rise in Covid-19 among health workers"

Even Glynn has said he's went to work while symptomatic are they absolutely brainless considering there close to the most vunrable.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/i-myself-have-gone-into-work-while-symptomatic-dr-ronan-glynn-appeals-to-medical-staff-following-rise-in-covid-19-among-health-workers-39505693.html

DellyBelly wrote: »

I said a couple of weeks ago to friends that once the schools opened the numbers would skyrocket. Looks like I've been proved right unfortunately. Another lockdown imminent

Schools are open 8 days? And already you think the cases today on a virus that takes up to 14 days to incubate are linked...

All the crazies come out of the woodwork

mloc123 wrote: »

It is almost like they hold back cases each week to have a shocking number at 5.30 on Saturday afternoon as people are getting ready to head out to pubs or parties...

And the virus rests on a Sunday

DellyBelly wrote: »

I said a couple of weeks ago to friends that once the schools opened the numbers would skyrocket. Looks like I've been proved right unfortunately. Another lockdown imminent

Sounds like you enjoying being right

DellyBelly wrote: »

I said a couple of weeks ago to friends that once the schools opened the numbers would skyrocket. Looks like I've been proved right unfortunately. Another lockdown imminent

There isn't a lockdown imminent,sorry to disappoint you

odyssey06 wrote: »

This is the latest I've read, other posters may have further updates:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2020-08-15/coronavirus-new-strains-mutation-vaccine-headlines/12519576

There's no concrete evidence that this, or any other, mutation has changed the virulence of the virus, — that is, the severity of the disease it causes — says Edward Holmes, an evolutionary virologist at the University of Sydney.
The reason D614G has attracted more interest than many of the other mutations, which could fall anywhere among the 30,000-odd building blocks of the virus's genome, is that it's on the spike protein. This protein makes up the bumps on the virus that allow it to enter our cells, and is the target of all the vaccines currently being developed...
"However, there is some evidence the D614G mutation increases the infectivity of SARS-CoV-2 in a laboratory setting," he says.
"I also suspect that it gives some boost to the transmissibility of the virus in nature, although this is not completely proven yet and I doubt that any effect is substantial.

The D614G amino acid substitution was established early in the European epidemic and the G version already accounted for the majority of cases by late March / early April.

There is some evidence, both from in vitro cell studies and epidemological data - that it is more transmissible, which could help account for the rise in frequency early on. However, a large study of NHS patients concluded that the G version it is no more or less lethal than the D version (link).

Since the lockdowns in Europe, most of the viral evolution has been occurring within countries, with relatively little transmission between countries. The sampling of viral genomes on nextstrain.org shows this nicely.

The idea that a new viral strain is responsible for reduced fatality across Europe would require that this strain arose in one location and then spread out from there, crossing local and national boundaries. However, the genetic family trees of viruses circulating in Europe give no evidence to show that this has happened.

I think that the lower numbers of hospitalisations and deaths being seen can be adequately explained by a combination of increased testing, low current incidence in older people in many countries, and better treatment.

Infection fatality rates vary hugely by age, with people over 70 around 700 times as likely to die as people under 35 (link). Current incidence in older age groups is very low across most of western Europe, as seen from the ECDC graphs (link), but higher in eastern Europe, where current fatality rates are much higher (e.g. Romania).

Another informative population is the Singapore dorm resident population. These people are mostly male, aged 20 to 40s and largely of south Asian origin. Almost 54,000 have tested positive, and they almost all have the original D version of the virus, not the European G form. No deaths in this group have been officially attributed to covid, although around 6 people have died from cardiovascular events.

So we're seeing low fatality in Europe and in Asia with two different versions of the virus that separated fairly early on in the epidemic. And the common factor is the low age of the people affected.

The trend is only going one way.

When winter comes it will be out of control without lockdown.

Irish winters are the perfect temperature for transmission unfortunately.

Coronavirus thrives at 4C, scientists find, raising fears of winter resurgence

Marty Bird wrote: »

Can anyone explain why these backlogs happen and why not one gobshíte in the media can pick up on it and ask for an explanation

I thought that the CMO explained at some stage that in the event of a large cluster, the procedure was to complete the testing and carry out track/trace before adding in the numbers to the reported total. Testing and test results could take a few days, and would be reflected in the HSE swab figures but not the daily totals.

I know Fergal Bowers mentioned the likelihood of a backlog when the 217 was reported last Tuesday - but he only mentioned it on Wednesday, after the hysterics of Prime Time on Tue night!

I think he means here with your normal cold etc not covid. So headline might be a little misleading.


I myself have gone into work while symptomatic' - Dr Ronan Glynn appeals to medical staff following rise in Covid-19 among health workers

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/i-myself-have-gone-into-work-while-symptomatic-dr-ronan-glynn-appeals-to-medical-staff-following-rise-in-covid-19-among-health-workers-39505693.html

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I wouldn't be concerned seems to have a very mild affect on the majority of young people.

It's what happens if they pass it onto their older generation or vulnerable relatives that is the main concern.