Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

This is what they said on the late late last night

‘It was a really nice evening, it was calm, there was no wind or anything… but very quickly we just got pulled out to sea.’

You'd swear it was stormy when they went out and purposely went out in a storm. Nobody is that thick.

Anyways, it was a positive story on the late late show and just pointed out the positivity that people missed.

But it wasn't a positive story about covid which you are deliberately ignoring

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

So you want all night covid stories, both positive and negative for a balance on the late late show? I have no control over what they put into the late late show.

I can just imagine the crying here, all night covid on the late late show.

There is a late late thread to discuss general late late stuff

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

So you want all night covid stories, both positive and negative for a balance on the late late show? I have no control over what they put into the late late show.

I can just imagine the crying here, all night covid on the late late show.

Shouldn't our national broadcaster have balance in their reporting after all they are funded by our tv licences. Some bit of balance anyway

What the hell happened in here last night? :pac:

I'm actually sick of it at this stage. Pubs were due to open originally on 10th of August, then it was brought forward a stage, then publicans were let know a number of times that they couldn't open only a few days before they were due to. Now we here of a plan to get pubs open by Christmas.

At the start when we had no or little Covid in Ireland we were told travel bans didnt work, then we were told not to go anywhere and if did would need to isolate for 14 days (that's only policed by public shaming). Then we are told we have a green list coming soon that we finally get about a month after was first announced for and of course there is huge confusion to what a green list country means. We are told it will update every 2 weeks and here we are a month later and no update. Now we are being told there thinking about a new colour coded travel system which by going by everything else might be in place by next summer.

The whole thing is a joke at this stage. The politicians are terrified to make any real decisions, hiding behind the experts opinions. They have lost the backing of most of the population at this stage. Just stupid nonsensical rules we are expected to follow. We can't go to matches incase we share a car on the way but I can invite 20 people to my house to watch the stream or we can all go to the local little pub and watch while we share a bit of food.

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

It's why many now just pop in and out of the thread. There are a few here who just want to argue rather than discuss.

I wonder are people also finally getting feed up with the whole constant covid being on the news etc. Was a time if you checked in after an hour there were 15 new pages. This morning when i check in there are only 15 since 7 yesterday evening.

Deleted User wrote: »

Not looking like being anywhere close to 30bn now because tax revenues have held up better than expected. Also the 16billion is essentially an accounting trick. For the ecb to print money to provide liquidity to the European economy, national governments had to take a proportion on each other’s balance sheets. This was done on the basis of who could afford to take that liability. But it’s at zero interest and will never be repaid

Rubbish, Italy etc were in danger of bringing down the eu precovid, covid made the situation worse but now the long term future of the eu is a better prospect as others have agreed to pay more tax so that the people in Italy can continue with their black, cash tax free economy.

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I'd wait for the final accounts tbh. The wage support scheme is in place until March '21. To-date that has cost circa 3 billion. Other business supports that I saw referenced mentioned 6 billion. HSE required over an extra 1.5 billion. Mounting up.
Anyone that thinks this is not going to have a long and negative effect on the country is being naive tbh. Before I'm accused of being more worried about money than health unfortunately in the real world there is a link. The running of a country requires money , lots of it.
Every cent you borrow requires a repayment that lessens available spend.

This argument wrecks my head. It's not binary, we need a sensible balance. "If it saves one life" is the most blinkered and short-term outlook. It's a horribly complex issue to solve and no country will strike the balance correctly, mainly because the definition of that balance is subjective.

Boggles wrote: »

Is Paul the Octopus still alive?

We should hire him.

France or Spain? Who is going on the green list paul decides next.

Mr_Muffin wrote: »

I just read on the Irish Times that the pubs could open in the middle of this month. I actually never read the Times so I'm not sure how credible a news source they are, but could this realistically happen?

The govt. and NPHET have a plan for the next few months that they're releasing in the next week or two and apparently pubs will be on the plan. It'll happen alright!

Deleted User wrote: »

Tax to gdp ratio in Italy is 7th highest in oecd. Ireland is 34th. When you are so wrong on that well I just don’t know

People in the southern part of Italy in particular had no way of getting support when the lockdown started as they didn't exist in the tax system, it was seen as normal but they had difficulty in dealing with it.