Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Ah GDPR, it's like the old health and safety catch all excuse. And its always an excuse for not doing something instead of being proactive.

Used in the hope that because it sounds official and you don't understand it so you'll shut up and go away.

It's really not that hard to understand, you need permission to hold the data - given as party to the transaction, dinner/pints.

The bigger issue is them retaining the data, how to demonstrate they can do so securely, the pain is that they have never had to consider this before therefore all their service procedures (if they have any) will have to be updated or implemented, not so bad for a modern computer based system but will old Joe down the road have the facility or knowledge???

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Ah GDPR, it's like the old health and safety catch all excuse. And its always an excuse for not doing something instead of being proactive.

Used in the hope that because it sounds official and you don't understand it so you'll shut up and go away.

A reminder, this is all in context of pubs having to record exactly what food they give to specific people.

Petty busywork that has **** all benefit to anybody or anything and yet people still want to defend it.

Sure, people could shut up and just do it, but just because we could doesn't mean we should. I could stand on my head and whistle a lullaby but since that wouldn't help fight covid either I think I'd rather refuse than do it just because I was told to.

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

He's putting his own interests ahead of the people he is meant to be representing.

That is as far from playing a blinder as you can get

No, as a politician it's a masterclass, even Mary Lou would be proud of tbh.

I'd be interested to see the records from the Dail bar. If all of this is as standard and straightforward as they say, surely they could lead by example and keep track of what each individual TD consumes in the workplace.

stephenjmcd wrote: »

As I said clear as mud, one (leo)says one thing another (donnelly)says something else.

Please keep my posts in context if your going to quote them to suit your narrative.

Communication is woeful

One is a politician, the other is a technocrat.

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

He's putting his own interests ahead of the people he is meant to be representing.

That is as far from playing a blinder as you can get

He barely stumbled into government in the third most popular party, has shut down sinn fein and has systematically sliced apart his supposed alliance partner and the man who took his job, and will be back in that job when the economic bounce back starts........

That **** is shakespearian........

bladespin wrote: »

It's really not that hard to understand, you need permission to hold the data - given as party to the transaction, dinner/pints.

The bigger issue is them retaining the data, how to demonstrate they can do so securely, the pain is that they have never had to consider this before therefore all their service procedures (if they have any) will have to be updated or implemented, not so bad for a modern computer based system but will old Joe down the road have the facility or knowledge???

I know a little about GDPR and what I'm seeing on the way into pubs is not compliant, absolutely no way can you leave someone's data sitting on a table on the way into a pub for all to see or steal, That data should be protected, it's not, that's a definite breach for any business.

PTH2009 wrote: »

So will it be normal license hours when the wet pubs do open ?

It wont make a difference what hours they operate tbh

I think that your question just shows how badly this government has communicated most things. That question shouldn’t be one that needs to be asked ffs. That’s a basic thing but it seems I’m not the only one confused. I’m sure the country as a whole would get behind it provided they were communicated clearly and it was the same hymn sheet from everyone but that’s not the case.

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Yes it's extra work but the extra work is only required because so many pubs were flouting the regulations. If they hadn't acted the maggot and did what they were told to do in the first instance then this measure wouldn't be necessary. They have to record the contact details for the party (first name and phone no) and the time and details of their order. It's no more onerous that what was required before.

This measure helps enforcement of existing regulations to suppress the virus. Standing on your head won't help adherence to the regulations so that's why that is not required.

I think people in general should take a step back and actually look at what they are doing.

We are talking about bringing in petty busywork regulations to address the minor issue of a minority not adhering to the previous petty busywork regulations. Is this really the best use of time and resources?

Some people are so wrapped up in enforcing the "regulations" that they forget how we got to this point in the first place, and with deaths at zero and hospitalisations practically at zero I personally couldn't give a toss whether pubs are serving food or not. It never mattered, and it certainly doesn't matter enough to warrant doubling down with more petty bull****.

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Yes it's extra work but the extra work is only required because so many pubs were flouting the regulations. If they hadn't acted the maggot and did what they were told to do in the first instance then this measure wouldn't be necessary.

You keep mentioning this, so many flouting the regulations. Where are the so many you describe??

From being out and about I've not seen widespread flouting. You may have a different experience in your area perhaps but let's not tar everyone with the same brush.

The vast vast majority are compliant with the regulations set down to them as has been proven with the lack of clusters and cases requiring establishments to close.

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Sounds great. Have you any suggestions?

My only suggestion is Guinness and plenty of it my man! Enjoy!