Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

daydorunrun · 04-09-2020 02:39PM

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

Terrible. Absolutely terrible.

Iv'e argued the standard of parenting in Ireland is very low several times on here but been told im a curtain twitcher etc.. Parents need to be held accountable for their kids actions.

I’d say your some crack Gerry ‘Terrible’ Hatrick!

Gerry Hatrick · 04-09-2020 02:39PM

partyguinness wrote: »

(I am going to throw this beaut out there)

I know full well the biggest curtain twitchers in Ireland and the most vocal 'lockdown' Nazis are the same class of people that stayed remarkably silent during decades of Catholic Church inspired abuses that riddled this country.

No you don't know, you presume or guess. It's just your opinion.

stephenjmcd · 04-09-2020 02:40PM

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

I'd be a Renua voter btw.

That explains alot

odyssey06 · 04-09-2020 02:41PM

partyguinness wrote: »

(I am going to throw this beaut out there)

I know full well the biggest curtain twitchers in Ireland and the most vocal 'lockdown' Nazis are the same class of people that stayed remarkably silent during decades of Catholic Church inspired abuses that riddled this country.

If you can't make your point without this offensive nonsense you don't have much of a point.

wadacrack · 04-09-2020 02:41PM

https://twitter.com/TheLancet/status/1301877678434332673

MOR316 · 04-09-2020 02:42PM

Strumms wrote: »

Thats nuts... whats happening there in France jesus..

Then again... im outside a starbucks in sutton sitting in my car in the carpark right now.. there are about 10/12 what id guess are 5th years... in close proximity... messing... play fighting.... ONE kid with a mask... just like nothing is up... going home to family... probably siblings or parents with asthmas or other underlying issues... depressing... you can educate all day but if kids dont wanna listen... parents though.. gotta start parenting.. i know that is unfashionable but....

Mate...

You're sat in a car, drinking a coffee, watching school kids, writing on the Internet about them to strangers, telling them what they're up to...

partyguinness · 04-09-2020 02:43PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

If you can't make your point without this offensive nonsense you don't have much of a point.

Taking offence is a choice. If it offends you that is your choice.

Gerry Hatrick · 04-09-2020 02:44PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

That explains alot

Thanks Stephen. Like to be clear about my position.

partyguinness · 04-09-2020 02:46PM

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

You guess incorrectly.

Kids are allowed run wild these days. Look at the poor lad killed by a few scummers in dublin on his bike recently. Parents probably dragged them up rather than raised them.

Is that the type of parent you are?

"In my day I would have felt the back of my father's hand and been glad for it.....if I was lucky.".......yadda yadda yadda.

Honestly you could not be more tedious.

Sconsey · 04-09-2020 02:48PM

MOR316 wrote: »

Mate...

You're sat in a car, drinking a coffee, watching school kids, writing on the Internet about them to strangers, telling them what they're up to...

What is the point of this post? are you trying to imply he is a pedo or something? Lame.

manofwisdom · 04-09-2020 02:48PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Maybe, maybe not. There are rumours that some private testing was taking place. As I replied & explained to wolf yesterday, the data on the dashboard relating to swabs comes from HSE and that doesn't take into account private testing. Its may be contributing to the discrepancy in swabs v cases announced

Maybe but on HSE swabs this time last week we knew there was a big back log of cases to give us 127 Friday, 142 Sunday and Tuesday 217 was no surprise as a load of swabs weren't counted in Sunday and Monday figures.

Sconsey · 04-09-2020 02:51PM

partyguinness wrote: »

Taking offence is a choice. If it offends you that is your choice.

Bullsh1t... calling people nazi's is offensive.

Boggles · 04-09-2020 02:53PM

partyguinness wrote: »

(I am going to throw this beaut out there)

I know full well the biggest curtain twitchers in Ireland and the most vocal 'lockdown' Nazis are the same class of people that stayed remarkably silent during decades of Catholic Church inspired abuses that riddled this country.

Gael23 · 04-09-2020 02:53PM

Someone speaking sense https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/covid-19-doctors-call-for-utterly-meaningless-daily-figures-to-be-dropped-1.4346550?mode=amp#.X1Ixt54hYQQ.facebook

partyguinness · 04-09-2020 02:53PM

Sconsey wrote: »

What is the point of this post? are you trying to imply he is a pedo or something? Lame.

He is painting for us a rather pathetic picture of what some people have become.

"FURY as teenagers seen mucking about with friends"

"It's a disgrace." says one local resident who did not want to be named.

partyguinness · 04-09-2020 02:54PM

Sconsey wrote: »

Bullsh1t... calling people nazi's is offensive.

As I said offence is a choice. Think about it.

Goldengirl · 04-09-2020 02:57PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

I take your point. Well made. Just thinking about it though. What percent of people will have a comorbidity by that age? I'd estimate nearly all of them.

+1
Very few people get past middle age without having hypertension, kidney problems , or some sort of metabolic issues, never mind all the people who have cancer diagnoses and treatment , and that is before you consider illnesses like asthma , diabetes and heart disease.

The posters that think that " end of life " means all these people are either too deluded or too unaware , to realise that no matter how well you look after yourself as a younger person, life intervenes , your body ages , and often people end up with medical issues through no fault of their own .
Is there a new judgementalism coming through here on the part of younger people who are fit and healthy , and think they are invincible to the ravages of time ?

Scratch the surface of every older person who seemingly lives a healthy active life , and you will find some underlying condition , albeit well managed . Yet these are some of the people who would be adversely affected by this virus. Some of the people that died were living active happy lives with well managed conditions.

Plumbthedepths · 04-09-2020 02:57PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Someone speaking sense https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/covid-19-doctors-call-for-utterly-meaningless-daily-figures-to-be-dropped-1.4346550?mode=amp#.X1Ixt54hYQQ.facebook

Which is why government and Nphet will ignore it.

MOR316 · 04-09-2020 02:57PM

Sconsey wrote: »

What is the point of this post? are you trying to imply he is a pedo or something? Lame.

No, I'm implying he/she has got little to be doing with their day.

Why would you think I was implying otherwise? No wonder society is gone down the toilet with your train of thought. Have a word with yourself :rolleyes:

odyssey06 · 04-09-2020 02:57PM

Sconsey wrote: »

Bullsh1t... calling people nazi's is offensive.

Especially to anyone who lost family to the actual Nazis.
People posting this offensive nonsense are just demonstrating their own historical ignorance.

blowitupref · 04-09-2020 02:58PM

stephenjmcd · 04-09-2020 02:58PM

manofwisdom wrote: »

Maybe but on HSE swabs this time last week we knew there was a big back log of cases to give us 127 Friday, 142 Sunday and Tuesday 217 was no surprise as a load of swabs weren't counted in Sunday and Monday figures.

yeah no i get that im just flagging up that if theres private testing in the mix then the data on the hub with regards testing is provided by the HSE and doesn't cover private testers.

Just something small to be aware of. I personally don't think theres too much private testing but its been mentioned that it is happening.

Wolf359f · 04-09-2020 03:00PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Maybe, maybe not. There are rumours that some private testing was taking place. As I replied & explained to wolf yesterday, the data on the dashboard relating to swabs comes from HSE and that doesn't take into account private testing. Its may be contributing to the discrepancy in swabs v cases announced

I don't think it's rumors private testing has taken place, it's pretty much been admitted by the meat factories that they employed a private testing company.

But the daily positive swabs vs new cases announced is all over the place.
There was a 7 day period in July with 200 positive swabs but 321 new cases announced.
2 weeks later, 715 positive swabs but only 556 new cases.

Sconsey · 04-09-2020 03:00PM

partyguinness wrote: »

As I said offence is a choice. Think about it.

I've thought about and I still think it is offensive to call peopel nazi's. Really it reflects more on how ignorant people are that throw around names like that.

partyguinness · 04-09-2020 03:03PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

Especially to anyone who lost family to the actual Nazis.
People posting this offensive nonsense are just demonstrating their own historical ignorance.

LOL...so now you are getting indigant about victims of Nazi atrocities. Honest to God...:rolleyes: As I have written here already some people has lost all sense of perspective. Clearly figurative writing is not one of your strong points. It requires imagination.

Goldengirl · 04-09-2020 03:03PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

I'd also point out that there will be be a very significant % of such people who won't take the risks even if places, locations re-open.
Companies won't be hosting large christmas parties for their staff.
More people voluntarily working from home means business district shops and coffee shops lose out.

My general point is that regardless of legal restrictions, there will be significant changes in people's behaviour which will have economic impacts.

Yes. Agree.
This is why Sweden's economy contracted like it did , despite no lockdown being imposed .
No " fear " as some here say but caution and lack of footfall to businesses which eventually temporarily closed of their own volition .

partyguinness · 04-09-2020 03:04PM

Sconsey wrote: »

I've thought about and I still think it is offensive to call peopel nazi's. Really it reflects more on how ignorant people are that throw around names like that.

Taking offence is a choice. That is your choice. Good for you.

Sconsey · 04-09-2020 03:09PM

MOR316 wrote: »

No, I'm implying he/she has got little to be doing with their day.

Why would you think I was implying otherwise? No wonder society is gone down the toilet with your train of thought. Have a word with yourself :rolleyes:

Well the fact that you igrnored that fact that he/she said they were sitting in a Starbucks car park drinking coffee, surely he/she is entitled to a break without you implying they have little to be doing then? Why do you care what they are doing with their day?

podgeandrodge · 04-09-2020 03:09PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

+1
Very few people get past middle age without having hypertension, kidney problems , or some sort of metabolic issues, never mind all the people who have cancer diagnoses and treatment , and that is before you consider illnesses like asthma , diabetes and heart disease.

The posters that think that " end of life " means all these people are either too deluded or too unaware , to realise that no matter how well you look after yourself as a younger person, life intervenes , your body ages , and often people end up with medical issues through no fault of their own .
Is there a new judgementalism coming through here on the part of younger people who are fit and healthy , and think they are invincible to the ravages of time ?

Scratch the surface of every older person who seemingly lives a healthy active life , and you will find some underlying condition , albeit well managed . Yet these are some of the people who would be adversely affected by this virus. Some of the people that died were living active happy lives with well managed conditions.

And plenty of these older people, regardless of potentially being adversely affected by the virus if they get it, just want to get on with their lives without any more of the recently over the top response from Govt

partyguinness · 04-09-2020 03:11PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Yes. Agree.
This is why Sweden's economy contracted like it did , despite no lockdown being imposed .
No " fear " as some here say but caution and lack of footfall to businesses which eventually temporarily closed of their own volition .

It is quite noticible in England at the weekend- the demographics are early 20s. Honest to God, every weekend night looks like the night of the leaving cert results or junior cert in some places.

There is an element of "Could we be arsed queuing up." amoung the older generation.

As you mention, people are staying away. But having said that I had to suffer 2 hours at a garden centre last Sunday and the cotton heads were out in full force and very little masks to be seen.

I think also there has been a general shift in mentality. A lot of people probably do not feel to need to wander around shops aimlessly buying crap they do not need. Perhaps mass consumption will not recover which is not a bad thing in a lot of respects. The parks and playgrounds are busier.

Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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