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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭JKnoxer


    claiming

    Jesus,can I do my gif again.
    Ill retract it if there is any actual proof.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,032 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    JKnoxer wrote: »
    Jesus,can I do my gif again.
    Ill retract it if there is any actual proof.

    Do you think Trump said what is being suggested he said?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    JKnoxer wrote: »
    Jesus,can I do my gif again.
    Ill retract it if there is any actual proof.
    What would you consider "actual proof"?


    Is your position that The Atlantic is making it up wholesale, or that their sources are?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭JKnoxer


    What would you consider "actual proof"?


    Is your position that The Atlantic is making it up wholesale, or that their sources are?

    You claimed it,you prove it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    JKnoxer wrote: »
    You claimed it,you prove it.
    Eh? I didn't claim anything, I provided a link to an article. The claims are in the article, cited as first hand accounts.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭JKnoxer


    Eh? I didn't claim anything, I provided a link to an article. The claims are in the article, cited as first hand accounts.

    Claims claim claim....orange man bad...GTFO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    JKnoxer wrote: »
    Claims claim claim....orange man bad...GTFO
    Excuse me? "orange man bad", yeah? I've done nothing but talk about publicly available information here. Your problem is with The Atlantic apparently, but I'm not "claiming" anything.

    But really, your issue is with the word "claim"? What's wrong with you? And "GTFO", seriously? I'm posting about a newsworthy article on President Trump, vs whatever it is that you're doing here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    Would you have less of a problem if it was rephrased to just, "I"ve heard a lot of people say these things about Trump, many people are saying it"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭JKnoxer


    Excuse me? "orange man bad", yeah? I've done nothing but talk about publicly available information here. Your problem is with The Atlantic apparently, but I'm not "claiming" anything.

    But really, your issue is with the word "claim"? What's wrong with you? And "GTFO", seriously? I'm posting about a newsworthy article on President Trump, vs whatever it is that you're doing here.

    You posted an article...claiming...something,trying to pass it off as truth.

    Stick to the facts...I already said id join you if you did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭JKnoxer


    Would you have less of a problem if it was rephrased to just, "I"ve heard a lot of people say these things about Trump, many people are saying it"?

    Yes...but youd never do that unless I called your bullsh1t out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    It's not claiming "something", it's quite specific about what it's saying. Here's the link again; https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/

    I've asked you what you would accept as fact, and you didn't respond. What would you accept as fact from the "mainstream media"?

    Saying you "called my bullsh1t out" is laughable. None of it is "my" bullsh1t!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    Trump's Tweeting about the article now. Part of his denial includes saying he never called McCain a loser;

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1301710818267074560

    Which is demonstrably untrue;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alVVqMDCajw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,032 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,032 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    It's in his genes!!

    His grandfather wouldnt do military service and was banished from Germany.

    https://twitter.com/page88/status/1301736379710406656?s=19

    This emperor is butt naked. There's an unpleasant sight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    So no proof he said it then, just hearsay.

    Liberals are getting desperate now. Sad really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,651 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    So no proof he said it then, just hearsay.

    Liberals are getting desperate now. Sad really.

    Uhh... hearsay? Was there a trial? There's plenty of proof. Get over yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    So no proof he said it then, just hearsay.

    Liberals are getting desperate now. Sad really.
    What would you accept as proof?


    Are you saying that the AP are "liberals"? Why would Trump lie about never calling McCain a loser in his denial?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    So no proof he said it then, just hearsay.

    Liberals are getting desperate now. Sad really.

    You've said multiple times that you're not a Trump supporter but leap to his defence constantly. The quotes are entirely credible and there's no indication they were made up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    What would you accept as proof?


    Are you saying that the AP are "liberals"? Why would Trump lie about never calling McCain a loser in his denial?

    Proof would be evidence. Taped conversation etc..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,654 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    It’s amazing the things Trump support want proof in court over yet are happy tell us all about Bidens declining health, suddenly then the burden and level of proof goes out the window.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    You've said multiple times that you're not a Trump supporter but leap to his defence constantly. The quotes are entirely credible and there's no indication they were made up.

    Can't stand Trump or Biden. Two idiots, but if you think the quotes are credible coming up to an election without evidence then fair enough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    Can't stand Trump or Biden. Two idiots, but if you think the quotes are credible coming up to an election without evidence then fair enough
    Why aren't they credible?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    Why aren't they credible?

    Have a think about that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    JKnoxer wrote: »
    Oh,Like joe who does his speeches from empty warehouses?

    With no questions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    Have a think about that.
    Maybe you could just lay out exactly what you mean.


    James LaPorta is an AP reporter who verified the story with officials in the Department of Defence. The original Atlantic article says they had multiple sources with first hand knowledge of what Trump said. The Washington Post is now also running the story. Whose credibility is it you're questioning, exactly? The sources? The news outlets/magazines?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Have a think about that.

    Highly reputable publication and it's backed up by the AP. They're entirely credible quotes and have been verified. It's also worth noting that a large proportion of quotes that end up in newspapers/magazines do not have a recording.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,651 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    With no questions

    Didn't one of you post a link to this earlier? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HZrpgR9dm4

    Biden giving a speech in a church to a bunch of people then taking questions? Just wondering maybe you need new talking points. If tyou've got the nerve, watch the whole thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Of course he said these things. It's who he is. There's actual video of him calling John McCain a loser and he's even trying to deny that. The irony of a draft dodger saying these things!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    Highly reputable publication and it's backed up by the AP. They're entirely credible quotes and have been verified. It's also worth noting that a large proportion of quotes that end up in newspapers/magazines do not have a recording.

    No recording means no evidence.

    It's the run in to the election. Do the maths.


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