2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

Igotadose wrote: »

Didn't one of you post a link to this earlier? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HZrpgR9dm4

Biden giving a speech in a church to a bunch of people then taking questions? Just wondering maybe you need new talking points. If tyou've got the nerve, watch the whole thing.

What's "one of you"? My opinions are my opinions

Deleted User wrote: »

Highly reputable publication and it's backed up by the AP. They're entirely credible quotes and have been verified. It's also worth noting that a large proportion of quotes that end up in newspapers/magazines do not have a recording.

No recording means no evidence.

It's the run in to the election. Do the maths.

namloc1980

Of course he said these things. It's who he is. There's actual video of him calling John McCain a loser and he's even trying to deny that. The irony of a draft dodger saying these things!

Igotadose

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

With no questions

Didn't one of you post a link to this earlier? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HZrpgR9dm4

Biden giving a speech in a church to a bunch of people then taking questions? Just wondering maybe you need new talking points. If tyou've got the nerve, watch the whole thing.

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Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

Have a think about that.

Highly reputable publication and it's backed up by the AP. They're entirely credible quotes and have been verified. It's also worth noting that a large proportion of quotes that end up in newspapers/magazines do not have a recording.

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

Have a think about that.

Maybe you could just lay out exactly what you mean.

James LaPorta is an AP reporter who verified the story with officials in the Department of Defence. The original Atlantic article says they had multiple sources with first hand knowledge of what Trump said. The Washington Post is now also running the story. Whose credibility is it you're questioning, exactly? The sources? The news outlets/magazines?

JKnoxer wrote: »

Oh,Like joe who does his speeches from empty warehouses?

With no questions

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

Why aren't they credible?

Have a think about that.

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

Can't stand Trump or Biden. Two idiots, but if you think the quotes are credible coming up to an election without evidence then fair enough

Why aren't they credible?

Deleted User wrote: »

You've said multiple times that you're not a Trump supporter but leap to his defence constantly. The quotes are entirely credible and there's no indication they were made up.

Can't stand Trump or Biden. Two idiots, but if you think the quotes are credible coming up to an election without evidence then fair enough

salmocab

It’s amazing the things Trump support want proof in court over yet are happy tell us all about Bidens declining health, suddenly then the burden and level of proof goes out the window.

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

What would you accept as proof?

Are you saying that the AP are "liberals"? Why would Trump lie about never calling McCain a loser in his denial?

Proof would be evidence. Taped conversation etc..

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Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

So no proof he said it then, just hearsay.

Liberals are getting desperate now. Sad really.

You've said multiple times that you're not a Trump supporter but leap to his defence constantly. The quotes are entirely credible and there's no indication they were made up.

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

So no proof he said it then, just hearsay.

Liberals are getting desperate now. Sad really.

What would you accept as proof?

Are you saying that the AP are "liberals"? Why would Trump lie about never calling McCain a loser in his denial?

Igotadose

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

So no proof he said it then, just hearsay.

Liberals are getting desperate now. Sad really.

Uhh... hearsay? Was there a trial? There's plenty of proof. Get over yourself.

So no proof he said it then, just hearsay.

Liberals are getting desperate now. Sad really.

Here's the AP piece on Trump's comments about dead US servicemen being "losers" and "suckers"

Tell me how

It's in his genes!!

His grandfather wouldnt do military service and was banished from Germany.

https://twitter.com/page88/status/1301736379710406656?s=19

This emperor is butt naked. There's an unpleasant sight.

Tell me how

AP coming out to validate the article.

https://twitter.com/mitchellreports/status/1301698974882181120

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

Trump's Tweeting about the article now. Part of his denial includes saying he never called McCain a loser;

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1301710818267074560

Which is demonstrably untrue;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alVVqMDCajw

It's not claiming "something", it's quite specific about what it's saying. Here's the link again; https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/

I've asked you what you would accept as fact, and you didn't respond. What would you accept as fact from the "mainstream media"?

Saying you "called my bullsh1t out" is laughable. None of it is "my" bullsh1t!

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

Would you have less of a problem if it was rephrased to just, "I"ve heard a lot of people say these things about Trump, many people are saying it"?

Yes...but youd never do that unless I called your bullsh1t out.

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

Excuse me? "orange man bad", yeah? I've done nothing but talk about publicly available information here. Your problem is with The Atlantic apparently, but I'm not "claiming" anything.

But really, your issue is with the word "claim"? What's wrong with you? And "GTFO", seriously? I'm posting about a newsworthy article on President Trump, vs whatever it is that you're doing here.

You posted an article...claiming...something,trying to pass it off as truth.

Stick to the facts...I already said id join you if you did.

Would you have less of a problem if it was rephrased to just, "I"ve heard a lot of people say these things about Trump, many people are saying it"?

JKnoxer wrote: »

Claims claim claim....orange man bad...GTFO

Excuse me? "orange man bad", yeah? I've done nothing but talk about publicly available information here. Your problem is with The Atlantic apparently, but I'm not "claiming" anything.

But really, your issue is with the word "claim"? What's wrong with you? And "GTFO", seriously? I'm posting about a newsworthy article on President Trump, vs whatever it is that you're doing here.

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

Eh? I didn't claim anything, I provided a link to an article. The claims are in the article, cited as first hand accounts.

Claims claim claim....orange man bad...GTFO

JKnoxer wrote: »

You claimed it,you prove it.

Eh? I didn't claim anything, I provided a link to an article. The claims are in the article, cited as first hand accounts.

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

What would you consider "actual proof"?

Is your position that The Atlantic is making it up wholesale, or that their sources are?

You claimed it,you prove it.