Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

odyssey06 · 03-09-2020 10:51AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

There are inherent dangers with masks, good to see some employers being proactive and saying no to this dangerous practice. I assume they looked at CCTV and went Jesus Christ this madness has to stop, they probably touched the front or their masks and put that viral load on everything they touched.

The viral load that would otherwise be everywhere except the mask?
How did the virus get onto the mask and nowhere else?

This is utter nonsense you were corrected on on the masks thread.
If masks were dangerous, Czech Republic who adopted them before anyone else in Europe would have terrible mortality rates versus rest of EU.
They don't.

RocketRaccoon · 03-09-2020 10:51AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

There are inherent dangers with masks, good to see some employers being proactive and saying no to this dangerous practice. I assume they looked at CCTV and went Jesus Christ this madness has to stop, they probably touched the front or their masks and put that viral load on everything they touched.

There are no dangers with masks, you're an idiot.

People hadn't been wearing masks in there until the last few days when the positive cases were known about, a few people started to wear them as a precaution and then these messages appeared today.

boggerman1 · 03-09-2020 10:52AM

Erranged wrote: »

Wtf is it with starting the program everyday with it

Also Luke O'Neill is too laddish with the presentation

I noticed that Luke very quietly put it out there that the famous pcr test is so sensitive that it might pick up anything like the common cold but that people aren’t sick with Covid.they could be perfectly fine.to me now Luke is like one of them lads in a pub talking away hoping he’s an audience

pc7 · 03-09-2020 10:53AM

Boggles wrote: »

General Election during a pandemic?

That would be a brave thing to do.

I really think the Greens will implode and it will collapse, if we have rapid testing etc, numbers low, they will have a way for one by March I reckon. Just my personal opinion, could well be wrong, time will tell.

odyssey06 · 03-09-2020 10:53AM

boggerman1 wrote: »

I noticed that Luke very quietly put it out there that the famous pcr test is so sensitive that it might pick up anything like the common cold but that people aren’t sick with Covid.they could be perfectly fine.to me now Luke is like one of them lads in a pub talking away hoping he’s an audience

In the States the issue is that the PCR test is so sensitive it was picking up the virus in people who were infected months ago - but dead covid-19 virus, not the common cold.

Plumbthedepths · 03-09-2020 10:55AM

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

There are no dangers with masks, you're an idiot.

People hadn't been wearing masks in there until the last few days when the positive cases were known about, a few people started to wear them as a precaution and then these messages appeared today.

If the employer is not in breach of HSE guidelines they are within their rights to expect staff to follow company policy. If your wife is uncomfortable she has a choice.

Sconsey · 03-09-2020 10:56AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

There are inherent dangers with masks, good to see some employers being proactive and saying no to this dangerous practice. I assume they looked at CCTV and went Jesus Christ this madness has to stop, they probably touched the front or their masks and put that viral load on everything they touched.

I'm going to start rating your poorly-veiled anti-mask agenda posts from now on:

I give this post 3 out of 10; it lacks any subtlety, you should have come out with some non-mask realted text to get started then launch into your general 'masks are bad' rant. Next time try to find a way to make it seem that you just realised masks are death traps, make it more natural.

drunkmonkey · 03-09-2020 10:58AM

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

There are no dangers with masks, you're an idiot.

People hadn't been wearing masks in there until the last few days when the positive cases were known about, a few people started to wear them as a precaution and then these messages appeared today.

Dr Glynn is an idiot then as well,
"We’re seeing far too many people walking around with them under their chin, we’re seeing many people wearing them, but with their nose exposed. Neither of those things provides any protection and indeed may increase the risk,” he said this evening."

https://www.thejournal.ie/face-masks-chin-nose-5191941-Aug2020/

Boggles · 03-09-2020 10:59AM

Saw a guy the other day wearing a mask using his 5g enabled phone.

He has super Aids now, no vaccine against that.

We tried to warn him.

Away With The Fairies · 03-09-2020 11:00AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Dr Glynn is an idiot then as well,
"We’re seeing far too many people walking around with them under their chin, we’re seeing many people wearing them, but with their nose exposed. Neither of those things provides any protection and indeed may increase the risk,” he said this evening."

https://www.thejournal.ie/face-masks-chin-nose-5191941-Aug2020/

So why don't they get rid of masks then if it's such a danger that you make it out to be?

Oh no, they are keeping the masks but going to fine people into wearing them correctly.

odyssey06 · 03-09-2020 11:01AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Dr Glynn is an idiot then as well,
"We’re seeing far too many people walking around with them under their chin, we’re seeing many people wearing them, but with their nose exposed. Neither of those things provides any protection and indeed may increase the risk,” he said this evening."
https://www.thejournal.ie/face-masks-chin-nose-5191941-Aug2020/

This is the Dr Glynn who urges us to wear masks?
Which totally contradicts your nonsense about masks being a dangerous practice which you are claiming they are without qualification.
Utter nonsense.

What Username Guidelines · 03-09-2020 11:05AM

Had a work call with a colleague yesterday. At the start of Covid she mentioned her husband has a heart condition so is high risk. So here she is, spluttering and coughing on the call, and I ask if she's ok. "Bad cold, the whole house has it". Suggest that maybe get it checked out if all four of them have it. "No, it's not covid, just a cough and sore throat, we're fine". Kind of insist a little more. "I don't wanna be locked in my house for two weeks"

This is what we're dealing with.

podgeandrodge · 03-09-2020 11:11AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Did this 23 year old actually end up in ICU or are RTE wheeling out crisis actors?

Heart and lung failure. Direct result of Covid. Who to believe.

Fair play to him sharing his experience.

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1301429981705318402?s=20

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

In short Owen got very sick , has recovered and is back at work.

Where does it state he had Covid? "He now knows he contracted the virus then" and has "post-Covid syndrome", which I hadn't heard of. But did he have a test that showed he had the virus? Sorry, maybe I missed it?

Away With The Fairies · 03-09-2020 11:15AM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Had a work call with a colleague yesterday. At the start of Covid she mentioned her husband has a heart condition so is high risk. So here she is, spluttering and coughing on the call, and I ask if she's ok. "Bad cold, the whole house has it". Suggest that maybe get it checked out if all four of them have it. "No, it's not covid, just a cough and sore throat, we're fine". Kind of insist a little more. "I don't wanna be locked in my house for two weeks"

This is what we're dealing with.

Denying it will surely make it go away.

Plumbthedepths · 03-09-2020 11:16AM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Where does it state he had Covid? "He now knows he contracted the virus then" and has "post-Covid syndrome", which I hadn't heard of. But did he have a test that showed he had the virus? Sorry, maybe I missed it?

All I got from the piece was he got sick and recovered. Working in a Kerry hospital now but you are correct nowhere does it state he was diagnosed with Covid. Unlike RTE to be loose with the facts.

tobefrank321 · 03-09-2020 11:18AM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Had a work call with a colleague yesterday. At the start of Covid she mentioned her husband has a heart condition so is high risk. So here she is, spluttering and coughing on the call, and I ask if she's ok. "Bad cold, the whole house has it". Suggest that maybe get it checked out if all four of them have it. "No, it's not covid, just a cough and sore throat, we're fine". Kind of insist a little more. "I don't wanna be locked in my house for two weeks"

This is what we're dealing with.

I think this cold is doing the rounds. I had something very similar and am just out of it now. Sore throat and a bit of a cough.

Was your colleague working from home? If she limits her movements and wears a mask when out, there's not much more she can do.

The winter flu season is going to cause chaos with testing this year. Only about 1% of people will have covid whereas the other 99% with similar symptoms will have the normal flu or cold.

Away With The Fairies · 03-09-2020 11:20AM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Where does it state he had Covid? "He now knows he contracted the virus then" and has "post-Covid syndrome", which I hadn't heard of. But did he have a test that showed he had the virus? Sorry, maybe I missed it?

There's a few news pieces out on this doctor. His sense of smell was off back in march but it wasn't a known symptom back then. That was all he had.

But sure, someone will come along and deny he never had covid because of a lack of the common symptoms and test.

RocketRaccoon · 03-09-2020 11:21AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Dr Glynn is an idiot then as well,
"We’re seeing far too many people walking around with them under their chin, we’re seeing many people wearing them, but with their nose exposed. Neither of those things provides any protection and indeed may increase the risk,” he said this evening."

https://www.thejournal.ie/face-masks-chin-nose-5191941-Aug2020/

Are you seriously this stupid?
There's an inherent danger with idiots not wearing masks correctly, there are zero dangers associated with masks.

What Username Guidelines · 03-09-2020 11:22AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

I think this cold is doing the rounds. I had something very similar and am just out of it now. Sore throat and a bit of a cough.

Was your colleague working from home? If she limits her movements and wears a mask when out, there's not much more she can do.

The winter flu season is going to cause chaos with testing this year. Only about 1% of people will have covid whereas the other 99% with similar symptoms will have the normal flu or cold.

Colds and flu should decrease with a much higher level of handwashing and mask-wearing, but it was more the attitude of "I dont want to be stuck in my house for two weeks" which is worrying. That to me is basically saying they have an inkling it might be it but don't want to know.

tobefrank321 · 03-09-2020 11:22AM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Where does it state he had Covid? "He now knows he contracted the virus then" and has "post-Covid syndrome", which I hadn't heard of. But did he have a test that showed he had the virus? Sorry, maybe I missed it?

Back in April there were a lot of stories in the media about young healthy people ending up in ICU as a result of covid.

Very few if any of the same stories these days, despite thousands being infected in the last few weeks.

Makes you wonder if there's a milder strain circulating.

JDD · 03-09-2020 11:30AM

Back in April there were a lot of stories in the media about young healthy people ending up in ICU as a result of covid.

Very few if any of the same stories these days, despite thousands being infected in the last few weeks.

Makes you wonder if there's a milder strain circulating.

Possible because we had ten times, if not a hundred times, the number of infections in March/April. If we applied the same testing criteria that we had in late March, we'd probably be only finding five or six new cases a day.

When the virus was as widespread as it was in March, it was obviously going to infect some young people that were particularly susceptible to it, or caught a high viral load. Those young people would end up in hospital and ended up in the newspapers.

Now, there's a much higher proportion of asymptomatic or very mild infections being picked up in the daily rounds of testing. Those people are never going to end up in hospital.

Plumbthedepths · 03-09-2020 11:32AM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

There's a few news pieces out on this doctor. His sense of smell was off back in march but it wasn't a known symptom back then. That was all he had.

But sure, someone will come along and deny he never had covid because of a lack of the common symptoms and test.

He was not confirmed as having Coivd, that's a fact. What is also important is he has recovered which is something that the vast majority of CONFIRMED cases also do.

TonyMaloney · 03-09-2020 11:32AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Back in April there were a lot of stories in the media about young healthy people ending up in ICU as a result of covid.

Very few if any of the same stories these days, despite thousands being infected in the last few weeks.

Makes you wonder if there's a milder strain circulating.

here's one from three weeks ago if you're missing those stories

https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2020/08/14/youth-not-immune-three-young-adults-currently-in-intensive-care-for-covid-19-in-spains-andalucia/

JP Liz V1 · 03-09-2020 11:33AM

The Rock and his family test positive

caveat emptor · 03-09-2020 11:34AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Did this 23 year old actually end up in ICU or are RTE wheeling out crisis actors?

Heart and lung failure. Direct result of Covid. Who to believe.

Fair play to him sharing his experience.

Apart from losing his sense of taste and smell, Owen had no other symptoms.
The loss of taste and smell were not recognised symptoms of Covid-19 at that time.
The virus passed through Owen and he carried on as usual.

Two months later his world fell apart.
On 2 May, Owen was admitted to Cork University Hospital - an unnerving reversal from doctor to patient at the hospital where he was working.

Initially, his admission was purely precautionary, for fluids, monitoring and treatment of stomach pains. What he and his doctors did not realise until much later was that he was suffering from post-Covid syndrome.

From that point things went downhill rapidly. Within two days, Owen was transferred to intensive care. He spent a week there,
during which he suffered heart and lung failure. His heart was functioning at less than one third of its normal work rate.
Owen could have died - and he nearly did.

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1301429981705318402?s=20

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Where does it state he had Covid? "He now knows he contracted the virus then" and has "post-Covid syndrome", which I hadn't heard of. But did he have a test that showed he had the virus? Sorry, maybe I missed it?

Yeah you musta missed it. The direct quote got cut out when you quoted it. I quoted the relevant part of the article. Above for your convenience again. Here's the full link. He could of course be a deep state crisis actor but I'd say he just wants to warn people to take pre cautions as it can be very serious for anyone.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0903/1162901-doctor-suffers-post-covid/

1123heavy · 03-09-2020 11:36AM

When will the government heed the advice of the German ministers who are now realising they acted totally out of line? The cure the governments are coming up with is worse than the virus

JDD · 03-09-2020 11:37AM

What are people's thoughts on how Scotland have handled their schools opening?

They are a similar sized country, similar sized schools and classrooms, similar weather patterns etc.

As far as I can see, they are doing extremely well. Schools open for a month, 40,000 pupils tested and only 117 positive cases. A positive rate of 0.3%.

15% of pupils are off school, with only 4% of that 15% "covid-19 related" i.e. either their classroom closed because of a positive case and they are sitting out the 14 days, or they are a close contact of someone else outside of school who has had a positive test, or there is a suspected community infection, and they are awaiting a test.

The remaining 11% it appears have regular colds and other infections, and parents are being very sensible in keeping those children home. It wouldn't at all be unusual for 10% of a class to be suffering from a cold/cough after the first month being back together.

So...if we follow the same pattern, I can see wet pubs open before Hallowe'en.

Plumbthedepths · 03-09-2020 11:38AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Yeah you musta missed it. The direct quote got cut out when you quoted it. I quoted the relevant part of the article. Above for your convenience again. Here's the full link. He could of course be a deep state crisis actor but I'd say he just wants to warn people to take pre cautions as it can be very serious for anyone.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0903/1162901-doctor-suffers-post-covid/

He wasn't diagnosed with Covid and has recovered, correct?

Polar101 · 03-09-2020 11:40AM

I think we should contact the doctor and tell him there are experts here on boards.ie who don't think you had Covid-19, finally he gets some proper diagnosis.

Plumbthedepths · 03-09-2020 11:40AM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

here's one from three weeks ago if you're missing those stories

https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2020/08/14/youth-not-immune-three-young-adults-currently-in-intensive-care-for-covid-19-in-spains-andalucia/

So three people between the ages of 20 and 30 in ICU out of a population of 8.5 million. A very small number thankfully. I hope they make a full recovery.

Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

Comments