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Near Misses Thread Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • #662
    Idleater
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    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    What exactly is the legal situation there in terms of overtaking a cyclist with an adjacent white line?
    Am I right in thinking it is not allowed?

    Not sure about that. Isn't the rule that you must not cross the white line. I've overtaken many on wide stretches of road on the motorcycle.

    That is not to in any way say that the pictured overtake was legal never mind courteous.
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  • #663
    magicbastarder
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    you must not cross the white line.
    9. An authorised continuous white line along the centre of a roadway shall indicate that traffic must drive to the left of the line, and when on a stretch of roadway on which such a line has been provided a driver shall, save for the purpose of entering or leaving land or premises adjoining the right hand side of that roadway, drive to the left of the line.
    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1964/si/294/made/en/print

    equally, you are not allowed dangerously overtake.
    Post edited by CramCycle on


  • #664
    magicbastarder
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    from the ROTR (assuming they accurately reflect the law)

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  • #665
    magicbastarder
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    sy_flembeck wrote: »
    IIRC there's even a speed below which you can overtake, something in the region of 25kmh.
    i suspect you'll have trouble finding that in the road traffic acts.
    Post edited by CramCycle on


  • #666
    magicbastarder
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    sy_flembeck wrote: »
    There is though.
    maybe not in law, though. unless you can find the discretion?

    if you've a solid white line on a blind bend, i suspect the law wouldn't be kind to you if you made that overtake.
    Post edited by CramCycle on


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  • #667
    buffalo
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    kenmm wrote: »
    ye - I'd even cautiously wave someone on if I was absolutely sure I could see clear in all directions (but can be risky if you cant and end up leading to an accident..)

    I'd never wave anyone on, unless I was pulling in. If it's that clear and safe, they should be able to see themselves.

    I've had it happen in the past where I've waved on traffic and it turns out there's a coach and they can't accelerate quickly enough to be safe. You don't want to be responsible for indicating to a driver to do something that leads to an accident.
    Post edited by CramCycle on


  • #668
    Breezer
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    buffalo wrote: »
    I'd never wave anyone on, unless I was pulling in. If it's that clear and safe, they should be able to see themselves.

    I've had it happen in the past where I've waved on traffic and it turns out there's a coach and they can't accelerate quickly enough to be safe. You don't want to be responsible for indicating to a driver to do something that leads to an accident.

    I agree with this, and was told the same when learning to drive. I will leave a gap in traffic or whatever but I won’t ever wave anyone out.

    On the other hand, I’ve been waved on by friendly drivers, on the bike and in the car, into the path of traffic, loads of times. Thankfully I’ve been alert to it each time.

    Waves can be well meaning, but dangerous!

    I have, however, waved drivers behind me on, when I’m on the bike and pulling in to let them pass.
    Post edited by CramCycle on


  • #669
    Alanstrainor
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    I was sideswiped this morning, not a close pass, actual contact with my hand/arm/shoulder by a pass just before a roundabout. Haven't looked at the footage, but will log this one with traffic watch shortly. I'm furious, the guy just drove through me. I did stay upright, and wasn't injured really but my shoulder was sore just after. I'm gobsmacked frankly.
    Post edited by CramCycle on


  • #670
    Alanstrainor
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    Alanstrainor wrote: »
    I was sideswiped this morning, not a close pass, actual contact with my hand/arm/shoulder by a pass just before a roundabout. Haven't looked at the footage, but will log this one with traffic watch shortly. I'm furious, the guy just drove through me. I did stay upright, and wasn't injured really but my shoulder was sore just after. I'm gobsmacked frankly.

    I rewatched and my blood is boiling. Just off the phone with the extremely helpful traffic watch. Call logged there, but she suggested I go straight to the station given contact was made, and this was more likely a hit and run rather than a dangerous overtake. One way or another I should have contact from Gardai soon.

    I'd like to show the video, but for now I'll sit on it before posting it online.
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  • #671
    Seth Brundle
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    ...and another hit & run reported (thanksfully yours wasn't as serious Alanstrainor) - looks like the car had a mind of its own and left the scene according to the gardai :rolleyes:
    https://twitter.com/IrishCycle/status/1300693763304689664
    Post edited by CramCycle on


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  • #672
    Stark
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    Self driving cars on our streets already, wow.
    Post edited by CramCycle on


  • #673
    magicbastarder
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    stupid passes seem to be getting more common recently; in each of my last two cycles, i've had to do the 'snap the arm out with open hand facing back' as a 'do not overtake' gesture, and both times the brain dead asshole behind the wheel gunned it.
    today, northbound on the R130 towards garristown, a car pulled out to overtake a cyclist, heading towards me, just as the guy behind me pulled out to overtake me, hence the gesture. but he floored it.
    Post edited by CramCycle on


  • #674
    Seth Brundle
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    tnegun wrote: »
    I hear you on the no where to go and probably more absent minded than malicious but he was way too fast around that bend and I was a bit hyped after the left hook a few mins earlier :o
    I was on that same road yesterday morning. Plenty of pedestrians out walking. Stupid for any driver to be doing that speed with blind bends, etc.
    Post edited by CramCycle on


  • #675
    Stark
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    Probably because the traffic is usually cack when it's raining so it takes them twice as long to get anywhere.
    Post edited by CramCycle on


  • #676
    Seth Brundle
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    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    ...and another hit & run reported (thanksfully yours wasn't as serious Alanstrainor) - looks like the car had a mind of its own and left the scene according to the gardai :rolleyes:
    https://twitter.com/IrishCycle/status/1300693763304689664
    Apparently the victim, Thiago Cortes, has died in hospital. :(

    Allegedly, the car, a 2005 Focus, was bought by some teenagers and not registered. Four people were seen running from the car when it was left abandoned.
    Post edited by CramCycle on


  • #677
    DoraDelite
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    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    Apparently the victim, Thiago Cortes, has died in hospital. :(

    Allegedly, the car, a 2005 Focus, was bought by some teenagers and not registered. Four people were seen running from the car when it was left abandoned.

    I was thinking about this the other day when seeing all the Garda Traffic twitter posts where the driver is usually already disqualified. Is it time for a law where you can't purchase a vehicle unless you provide evidence of a valid licence? perhaps some sort of website that sellers can query also and submit the buyers details? also add a sanction for a seller that sells a vehicle to an unlicenced or disqualified driver.
    Post edited by CramCycle on


  • #678
    magicbastarder
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    DoraDelite wrote: »
    Is it time for a law where you can't purchase a vehicle unless you provide evidence of a valid licence?
    if it was a private sale, and the buyers ignored the law anyway, there's no way of enforcing this.
    Post edited by CramCycle on


  • #679
    DoraDelite
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    magicbastarder wrote: »
    if it was a private sale, and the buyers ignored the law anyway, there's no way of enforcing this.

    I'd be thinking some kind of law where if the seller doesn't verify the buyers licence then they get a large fine if caught, even in a private sale. So if a DQ driver was stopped and found to have bought a car from a seller unverified then the seller is in trouble too.
    Post edited by CramCycle on


  • #680
    Johnny Jukebox
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    magicbastarder wrote: »
    if it was a private sale, and the buyers ignored the law anyway, there's no way of enforcing this.

    How about the seller remaining legally responsible for the vehicle until change of ownership is complete and change of ownership being contingent on government issued photo ID ?
    Post edited by CramCycle on


  • #681
    magicbastarder
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    struggling up herbertstown/harbourstown/herbestown this evening, i heard a car engine behind me. narrow road, but wide enough for a car and a bike, so i pulled in to the side of the road without slowing down (i was going slow enough anyway!) and a chap driving a vehicle recovery truck roared past doing, at a guess, close to sixty, with not much more than a foot to spare. was more of a flash of anger than fright he gave me, i briefly turned the air blue in a loud fashion. not that he heard me.
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  • #682
    Dr_Colossus
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    That old nugget of the roundabout at the Castleknock end of Chesterfield Avenue again this morning, coming from Farmleigh direction and taking the 3rd exit onto Chesterfield Avenue. 06:30 in the morning with little traffic but a sleepy woman in a <snip> grey BMW decides to ignore the strong front light (was flashed earlier by an oncoming driver that took umbrage with it) and continue into the roundabout without yielding. I let a roar and she braked hard stopping the car halfway through and I continue on noting the reg. No wave of an apology or any acknowledgment, just totally transfixed on the car in front and never looked.

    Still the most dangerous section of my commute which includes the full length of the quays and this supposed to be a recreational park. The hard should in the park as the cycle lane is a great improvement but they need to replace the unsightly cones with a permanent solution. Going through the park yesterday evening and a car clipped one of the cones in the cycle lanes sending it a good 0.5m inwards, if a cyclists was inline they’d have been felled.
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  • #683
    Seth Brundle
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    F**ks sake :(
    https://twitter.com/dublincycling/status/1301622633448996865?s=19
    Post edited by CramCycle on


  • #684
    Seth Brundle
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    average_runner wrote: »
    Do we actually know what happened here except for the toe rags in the car.
    Did the car break the lights as well?
    In the Thiago incident?
    Nothing has been disclosed to my knowledge apart from images of the car. The damage to the car from the impact would indicate that the car was travelling at a considerable speed (in my view).
    Post edited by CramCycle on


  • #685
    thebourke
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    i have been cycling in dublin for a long time but my biggest fear on the roads is the motorists!
    Post edited by CramCycle on


  • #686
    Stark
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    I was waiting to cross at the Seville Place end on Wednesday in order to head on to the new stretch of greenway. (Where the Dublin Commuter Coalition guy got ran over). There were two Gardaí in full hi-viz stationed at the junction of Seville Place and Guild Street. They were literally screaming "wtf are you doing, the light is red you idiots" at the cars driving through the red light there without a care in the world.
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  • #687
    5uspect
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    Watching the cars and not the road

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8hDuvMM8KY
    Post edited by CramCycle on


  • #688
    Seth Brundle
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    5uspect wrote: »
    Watching the cars and not the road
    One big disadvantage to parking on the right hand side of the road.
    Post edited by CramCycle on


  • #689
    5uspect
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    CramCycle wrote: »
    It happened because he gunned it from stationary, and never looked again. It's not the pillars fault, he should have pulled out a bit, slowed, re looked to make sure and then, in this case, stop as he would have seen the cyclist. I can see how it happens but that is because of poor driving technique, nothing else.

    She shot out because she thought there was a gap. She was only watching the oncoming car who let her out and the car in front of me.
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  • #690
    DoraDelite
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    Trying out my new rear camera after one close pass too many. This was the on Merrion road today. The car didn't deviate or cross the line of the next lane when skimming me. I felt this one was dangerous at speed and I estimate no more than 1-2cms from my handlebars. The outer lane was also clear for them to move into.
    For context my rear tyre is 6cms wide and my handlebars are approx 32cms on either side of the tyre.

    This one is going to traffic watch.
    Post edited by CramCycle on


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  • #691
    MojoMaker
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    You won't get far with that.

    On the "bad" scale, it barely registers (sadly).
    Post edited by CramCycle on


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