How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

Dempo1 · 01-09-2020 01:08PM

Lillyfae wrote: »

Nice :mad:

To be fair it's not looking like it was contracted at the school but my concern is all this talk of public health teams in place. Let's assume 20 kids in this class, we're do you begin if there is 10, 20, 30 classes. As it is hospitals at a stand still so I'm just concerned at we hear nothing but public health teams in place and at the same time they don't want health system dealing with an avalanche, which is to be????

Locotastic · 01-09-2020 01:08PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

Surely if a child is being tested due to being a close contact, then they should kept at home until the result comes through.

For 14 days regardless of the result :mad:

seamus · 01-09-2020 01:11PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

Surely if a child is being tested due to being a close contact, then they should kept at home until the result comes through.

Yep. That's the rules.

Either people are ignoring this, or this isn't being explained properly by the contact tracing team.

Knowing people, I'd say the former, but it's worth checking what people are being told by the contact tracers.

Onesea · 01-09-2020 01:11PM

I don't see the issue. Testing is uncovering c19 everywhere.. What is the issue? Just get on with it, hospitals are quiet. It's like a boogie man at this stage

Lyle · 01-09-2020 01:12PM

Dressoutlet wrote: »

Apparently, The child was asymptomatic and tested due to being a close contact of a positive case. The child was then sent to school before the results were given.

Where did you see/hear that? If that's true then that's shocking behaviour to have behind the first school case.

road_high · 01-09-2020 01:13PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

Surely if a child is being tested due to being a close contact, then they should kept at home until the result comes through.

Absolutely. What kind of utter cabbages would have known their kid was being tested/waiting on a result but yet sends the kid to school regardless? Utter self absorbed stupidity.

road_high · 01-09-2020 01:14PM

Onesea wrote: »

I don't see the issue. Testing is uncovering c19 everywhere.. What is the issue? Just get on with it, hospitals are quiet. It's like a boogie man at this stage

It's everyone else who will suffer the inconvience and miss out on schooling becuase of these selfish donkeys- that's the problem!

caveat emptor · 01-09-2020 01:16PM

Cross posting from the main thread. The school has apparently said that they won't be informing parents of subsequent cases.
The fact siblings of children in the class affected are still in attendance means any bubble there was is burst. Only kids who are symptomatic will be test so asymptomatic spread will be left unchecked.

https://twitter.com/sfaysocialist/status/1300758852040896512?s=20

JDD · 01-09-2020 01:19PM

Ah who know what actually happened.

The family could have been called on Friday to say their child was deemed a close contact and a test would be arranged. They may not have sent their child to school yesterday at all, since they were waiting on the results. If I were them, and had other children, I would have kept them out for the day too, though I know that's not compulsory.

Now, we'll see if the keeping kids in each class separate from children in other classes has actually worked. If that child was in class on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday, I fully expect there will be two or three more positive cases from that child's class before the week's end. We just have to hope that the current positive case, or the newly infected children, have not passed it on to siblings in other classrooms.

What will be worrying is if there is 6, or 7 or 10 (or more) children infected over those three days. The chances of stopping it spreading into other classes plummets.

But lets not lose the run of ourselves. A child has tested positive. Hardly a massive surprise. It's the results of the school spread that we should wait for. And, worst case scenario, the school closes for two weeks, and reopens. It's bound to happen, though we would have hoped not so soon. Other schools are not affected and we continue as normal, knowing that these rolling closures are going to happen.

Lillyfae · 01-09-2020 01:20PM

Dempo1 wrote: »

To be fair it's not looking like it was contracted at the school but my concern is all this talk of public health teams in place. Let's assume 20 kids in this class, we're do you begin if there is 10, 20, 30 classes. As it is hospitals at a stand still so I'm just concerned at we hear nothing but public health teams in place and at the same time they don't want health system dealing with an avalanche, which is to be????

It doesn't matter. If you have been tested, there is a suspicion that you are not only symptomatic, but infectious. We know that you should be quarantining if there's a risk. There's a risk here. The child shouldn't have been in school if they were waiting for test results.

Dressoutlet · 01-09-2020 01:22PM

JDD wrote: »

Ah who know what actually happened.

The family could have been called on Friday to say their child was deemed a close contact and a test would be arranged. They may not have sent their child to school yesterday at all, since they were waiting on the results. If I were them, and had other children, I would have kept them out for the day too, though I know that's not compulsory.

Now, we'll see if the keeping kids in each class separate from children in other classes has actually worked. If that child was in class on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday, I fully expect there will be two or three more positive cases from that child's class before the week's end. We just have to hope that the current positive case, or the newly infected children, have not passed it on to siblings in other classrooms.

What will be worrying is if there is 6, or 7 or 10 (or more) children infected over those three days. The chances of stopping it spreading into other classes plummets.

But lets not lose the run of ourselves. A child has tested positive. Hardly a massive surprise. It's the results of the school spread that we should wait for. And, worst case scenario, the school closes for two weeks, and reopens. It's bound to happen, though we would have hoped not so soon. Other schools are not affected and we continue as normal, knowing that these rolling closures are going to happen.

The class that got snet home only started yesterday.

sideswipe · 01-09-2020 01:23PM

road_high wrote: »

It's everyone else who will suffer the inconvience and miss out on schooling becuase of these selfish donkeys- that's the problem!

Let’s wait until we know the details before reverting to the Covinsults.

caveat emptor · 01-09-2020 01:24PM

Dressoutlet wrote: »

The class that got snet home only started yesterday.

Not true.

The school in question returned from their summer holidays last Wednesday.

https://www.rte.ie/news/education/2020/0901/1162526-coronavirus-school/

Gentleman Off The Pitch · 01-09-2020 01:26PM

JDD wrote: »

Ah who know what actually happened.

The family could have been called on Friday to say their child was deemed a close contact and a test would be arranged. They may not have sent their child to school yesterday at all, since they were waiting on the results. If I were them, and had other children, I would have kept them out for the day too, though I know that's not compulsory.

Now, we'll see if the keeping kids in each class separate from children in other classes has actually worked. If that child was in class on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday, I fully expect there will be two or three more positive cases from that child's class before the week's end. We just have to hope that the current positive case, or the newly infected children, have not passed it on to siblings in other classrooms.

What will be worrying is if there is 6, or 7 or 10 (or more) children infected over those three days. The chances of stopping it spreading into other classes plummets.

But lets not lose the run of ourselves. A child has tested positive. Hardly a massive surprise. It's the results of the school spread that we should wait for. And, worst case scenario, the school closes for two weeks, and reopens. It's bound to happen, though we would have hoped not so soon. Other schools are not affected and we continue as normal, knowing that these rolling closures are going to happen.

If you asked a teacher in the school I'm pretty sure that they could think of a few worse scenarios that could result than the school temporarily closing

TheValeyard · 01-09-2020 01:28PM

Locotastic wrote: »

For 14 days regardless of the result :mad:

Yeah, how's this going to work when winter hits and kids are getting colds n coughs the whole time.

Gerry Hatrick · 01-09-2020 01:29PM

Sat in my car this morning as i awaited my time to go to the vets with my dog i observed a teacher fail miserably to get school students to maintain distance as they lined up to go into class. Half of the pupils laughing and ignoring her and the other half looking nervous. Kids walking up to the school in groups all on top of each other some even mess fighting as you do in normal times and most not wearing masks.

This experiment is going to fail and some schools (like the one i was parked outside today) will be shut in 2-3 weeks time imo.

Dressoutlet · 01-09-2020 01:29PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Not true.

https://www.rte.ie/news/education/2020/0901/1162526-coronavirus-school/

The school was, but not all classes started Wednesday, the class sent home started yesterday.

Gerry Hatrick · 01-09-2020 01:31PM

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

maybe we should lock children away until there's a vaccine.
Them and old people

It's not about the children as you well know, they for the most part will be grand. Teachers, Sna's, school bus drivers etc.. won't. When they get invariably sick the kids will be at home anyway.

drunkmonkey · 01-09-2020 01:32PM

Dressoutlet wrote: »

Apparently, The child was asymptomatic and tested due to being a close contact of a positive case. The child was then sent to school before the results were given.

This is a good test case for asymptomatic spread in schools. Hopefully we hear what happens next. Most kids will be asymptomatic or have mild symptoms anyway.
CDC not recommending testing asymptomatic must mean they are of little danger you'd assume.

daydorunrun · 01-09-2020 01:33PM

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

Sat in my car this morning as i awaited my time to go to the vets with my dog i observed a teacher fail miserably to get school students to maintain distance as they lined up to go into class. Half of the pupils laughing and ignoring her and the other half looking nervous. Kids walking up to the school in groups all on top of each other some even mess fighting as you do in normal times and most not wearing masks.

This experiment is going to fail and some schools (like the one i was parked outside today) will be shut in 2-3 weeks time imo.

Very observant but a little creepy.

redunited · 01-09-2020 01:34PM

meeeeh wrote: »

And the mortality rate among children? Yes kids catch and transmit the disease but they are at a low risk to die from it. UN put out a warning that decades of progress could be lost and inequality increased if kids can't get back to school. That's a lot more real risk to kids.

Kids have more or less been in isolation since March. Granted some still played in groups but the majority of children around the world were not associating with other children.

Now they are guinea pigs,

Why not blended learning, why not part-time schooling?

seamus · 01-09-2020 01:35PM

TheValeyard wrote: »

Yeah, how's this going to work when winter hits and kids are getting colds n coughs the whole time.

Requirement to isolate is only when you're a close contact of a confirmed case.

Kids with symptoms (like cough, sore throat) but no positive test just have to stay home.

If there's no positive test in the class, all the other kids keep attending school untli there is.

redunited wrote: »

Kids have more or less been in isolation since March. Granted some still played in groups but the majority of children around the world were not associating with other children.

That's just completely not the case. If anything kids have been the least compliant group since about the end of April.

Gerry Hatrick · 01-09-2020 01:36PM

Locotastic wrote: »

Irresponsible selfish, how can they be so ignorant?

For those who think there's no stigma attached to the virus, people who do things like this deserve the stigma.

Once you're being tested as a close contact it's clear you restrict movements for 14 days regardless.

Mummy has to get back to the gym and wine o clock. A lot of parents use school as a child minding service and couldn't give a sh1t about their kids education.

Jinglejangle69 · 01-09-2020 01:37PM

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

Mummy has to get back to the gym and wine o clock. A lot of parents use school as a child minding service and couldn't give a sh1t about their kids education.

What about the parents who both work?

Gerry Hatrick · 01-09-2020 01:37PM

daydorunrun wrote: »

Very observant but a little creepy.

Excuse me?

Locotastic · 01-09-2020 01:39PM

TheValeyard wrote: »

Yeah, how's this going to work when winter hits and kids are getting colds n coughs the whole time.

That's only for confirmed close contacts.

If someone has a cough and gets tested and it's negative then they don't have to restrict for 14 days.

"Your child can return to their normal activities once they have been given either:

a negative (not-detected) test result and are 48 hours without symptoms and, or

another diagnosis, that is not coronavirus"

TheValeyard · 01-09-2020 01:41PM

Locotastic wrote: »

That's only for confirmed close contacts.

If someone has a cough and gets tested and it's negative then they don't have to restrict for 14 days.

"Your child can return to their normal activities once they have been given either:

a negative (not-detected) test result and are 48 hours without symptoms and, or

another diagnosis, that is not coronavirus"

Awesome

meeeeh · 01-09-2020 01:42PM

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

Mummy has to get back to the gym and wine o clock. A lot of parents use school as a child minding service and couldn't give a sh1t about their kids education.

Well what about dead beat dad? Or ard we just using any occasion for women hating?

Anyway this kind of Internet conclusions about stuff people know nothing about just show that nothing should be announced before case is confirmed. There is enough nonsense speculation after it, you don't want to have it while waiting for results.

Lillyfae · 01-09-2020 01:44PM

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

Mummy has to get back to the gym and wine o clock. A lot of parents use school as a child minding service and couldn't give a sh1t about their kids education.

There are way more of these posts on this thread than the derogatory posts towards teachers, that's for sure.

I have a full time job. Myself and my husband (also working full time)did our best tagteaming for months and trying to hold down our jobs at the same time, as did many of our colleagues. We were scratching the door of the creche by the time they reopened. Not because we dislike our children, but because if they didn't go back, one or other of us couldn't work anymore. We both love our jobs, but more importantly we love putting a roof over ours and our children's heads and food on the table. It's not even like they're in the creche 5 days a week 12 hours a day, we avail of flexible working so there's a balance between socialisation and home life because both are important. When they start school it will be the same. It's not free childcare, it's education and socialisation. We base our work day around it because that makes professional sense.

iamwhoiam · 01-09-2020 01:44PM

Locotastic wrote: »

That's only for confirmed close contacts.

If someone has a cough and gets tested and it's negative then they don't have to restrict for 14 days.

"Your child can return to their normal activities once they have been given either:

a negative (not-detected) test result and are 48 hours without symptoms and, or

another diagnosis, that is not coronavirus"

Can I ask where you read that please

How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

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