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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    You can easily see why Trump is seeking education reform when you have crazy professor's like this teaching in public universities that are funded by the tax payer saying that speech is violent and creating a victim culture.

    If you don't see any problem with this then you're part of the problem.

    Brilliant straw man you've built there.

    You don't think there's anything wrong with changing the curriculum of a nation's educational system to focus on patriotism and national exceptionalism? Why is it OK for Trump to do it, but not the CCP in Hong Kong?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    Hey LessOutrage, any reason why you're not addressing the fact you're actively trying to lie about coronavirus deaths? Your browsing of far right websites and dropping the websites they're sharing also makes for a pretty pointless person to debate with.
    "Unbiased" observer of Trump an Biden who someone solely speaks in right-wing memes and talking points


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    Brilliant straw man you've built there.

    You don't think there's anything wrong with changing the curriculum of a nation's educational system to focus on patriotism and national exceptionalism? Why is it OK for Trump to do it, but not the CCP in Hong Kong?

    Nothing wrong with learning about how great America was in the past and how it came to be that great.

    You can't criticise the CCP in China or speak out against them but you can can criticise Trump and America so there is no comparing the 2. There is no censorship in America but there is in China where they try to control everything.

    America is the land of the free and the home of the brave in case you've forgotten.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    Nothing wrong with learning about how great America was in the past and how it came to be that great.

    You can't criticise the CCP in China or speak out against them but you can can criticise Trump and America so there is no comparing the 2. There is no censorship in America but there is in China where they try to control everything.

    America is the land of the free and the home of the brave in case you've forgotten.
    There is an absolutely massive problem if you come at education with the main purpose of instilling a sense of patriotism and American exceptionalism in children.

    I don't think you really know all that much about the CCP or what is going on in Hong Kong judging by this post, to be honest. What Trump is talking about for school kids is exactly what people are against right now in Hong Kong. What's the difference between downplaying the wrongs of slavery and downplaying the events June 4th, 1989?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    And yet many are terrified of unisex toilets and equality!

    America is many things but home of the brave it most certainly isn't.

    War on terror, terror on the streets, minorities taking over, taking away your guns, etc etc. America is in a constant state of being scared.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,622 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    If Trump gets re-elected Laura Ingraham should get the Presidential Medal of Freedom for how she steered Trump through that interview. Any proper journalist would have actually questioned him on the things he was saying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,780 ✭✭✭threeball


    Nothing wrong with learning about how great America was in the past and how it came to be that great.

    You can't criticise the CCP in China or speak out against them but you can can criticise Trump and America so there is no comparing the 2. There is no censorship in America but there is in China where they try to control everything.

    America is the land of the free and the home of the brave in case you've forgotten.

    Didn't Trump just try to stop people criticising him on facebook and twitter. And yet you with no irony whatsoever state theres no such thing as censorship in the US. Right now there isn't but if Trump had his way he'd be ruler for life and everyone would doff the cap. Its why he admires dictators so much. Its a position he craves, everyone telling him how great him is. Monuments in his likeness (he wanted his face on Mount Rushmore), parades in his honour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,780 ✭✭✭threeball


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    And yet many are terrified of unisex toilets and equality!

    America is many things but home of the brave it most certainly isn't.

    War on terror, terror on the streets, minorities taking over, taking away your guns, etc etc. America is in a constant state of being scared.

    Thats government policy since the 50s. Keep people scared. Theres always been a boogeyman, the Russians, the communist expansion, the arabian terrorists, . In the last few years its had no focal point on external threat so its turned in on itself. American vs American. Once they start bombing some other poor unfortunate this will pass and they'll go back to hating other boogeymen. Their TV stations are constantly pedaling local fear too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,926 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    threeball wrote: »
    Didn't Trump just try to stop people criticising him on facebook and twitter. And yet you with no irony whatsoever state theres no such thing as censorship in the US. Right now there isn't but if Trump had his way he'd be ruler for life and everyone would doff the cap. Its why he admires dictators so much. Its a position he craves, everyone telling him how great him is. Monuments in his likeness (he wanted his face on Mount Rushmore), parades in his honour.

    he did. he has the demeanour of a 13 year old with poor social skills. If the US is the land of the free it is being led by a lifelong coward. if he hadn't been born into money he would be either dead or in prison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,243 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    You can't criticise the CCP in China or speak out against them but you can can criticise Trump and America so there is no comparing the 2. There is no censorship in America but there is in China where they try to control everything.

    America is the land of the free and the home of the brave in case you've forgotten.

    Is that why he wants Twitter to let him block people that are being mean to him? America hasn't been home to the "brave" for a very long time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,356 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Nothing wrong with learning about how great America was in the past and how it came to be that great.

    You can't criticise the CCP in China or speak out against them but you can can criticise Trump and America so there is no comparing the 2. There is no censorship in America but there is in China where they try to control everything.

    America is the land of the free and the home of the brave in case you've forgotten.
    Are you American?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,454 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    Is Joe getting rid of fracking?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    https://twitter.com/KonstantinKisin/status/1300707253838807040?s=20

    Joe sharp as ever!!!!

    Not that they'll ever happen, but cannot wait for the debates :D

    Joe's handlers must be really worried, I wonder what they'll inject him with if they go ahead ?
    speed ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    America has it's problems of course but they aren't comparable with hellholes like Saudi, Syria, Iraq or a ton of African countries.

    People need to cop on and get some perspective and stop buying the msm cool aid being sold at present.

    Still the greatest country on earth imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    https://twitter.com/KonstantinKisin/status/1300707253838807040?s=20

    Joe sharp as ever!!!!

    Not that they'll ever happen, but cannot wait for the debates :D

    Joe's handlers must be really worried, I wonder what they'll inject him with if they go ahead ?
    speed ?

    That's almost cruel to watch :(

    Democrats have a lot to answer for when the orange twit wins in November


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,243 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    https://twitter.com/KonstantinKisin/status/1300707253838807040?s=20

    Joe sharp as ever!!!!

    Not that they'll ever happen, but cannot wait for the debates :D

    Joe's handlers must be really worried, I wonder what they'll inject him with if they go ahead ?
    speed ?

    Third time this has been posted. Trump supporters are so tedious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    https://twitter.com/KonstantinKisin/status/1300707253838807040?s=20

    Joe sharp as ever!!!!

    Not that they'll ever happen, but cannot wait for the debates :D

    Joe's handlers must be really worried, I wonder what they'll inject him with if they go ahead ?
    speed ?


    Are Trump fans still trying to push people to make this about cognitive ability?


    It's a risky play given the sheer volume of clips, especially recently of Trump slurring his words, babbling incoherently and getting distracted. You get one of these slip-ups every couple of days from Biden while with Trumpo, you get them every time he speaks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Third time this has been posted. Trump supporters are so tedious.


    Give them a break. It's all they have to work with. They're doing their best.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    https://twitter.com/KonstantinKisin/status/1300707253838807040?s=20

    Joe sharp as ever!!!!

    Not that they'll ever happen, but cannot wait for the debates :D

    Joe's handlers must be really worried, I wonder what they'll inject him with if they go ahead ?
    speed ?

    How many more times will this be trotted out? This and the "most people would have died anyway from underlying conditions" were the 2 main Fox News approved talking points from yesterday. I guess it's still a bit early for the distribution of today's talking points.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,856 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    https://twitter.com/KonstantinKisin/status/1300707253838807040?s=20

    Joe sharp as ever!!!!

    Not that they'll ever happen, but cannot wait for the debates :D

    Joe's handlers must be really worried, I wonder what they'll inject him with if they go ahead ?
    speed ?

    Did you watch the speech?

    He gives a perfect speech but stumbles on one sentence and the Trump zealots jump on it, Trump goes off on a tangent about sharks and seals after he is distracted by a mosquito and they just ignore it.

    Trump derangement syndrome indeed :pac:

    I wonder will any of them ever have the guts to really watch these and then tell me why Biden stumbling over a sentence is worse than Trumps in these vids





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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,034 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Also, this is absolutely disgusting stuff from Trump; Trump demands 'patriotic education' in U.S. schools

    That, coupled with this;


    There's not really a massive difference between Trump and the CCP in many ways. Trump and Conservatives will talk big words about supporting HK protestors, and speak out against China cracking down on them. They'll say they oppose the new National Security Law and the indoctrination of Hong Kong children.......but they're hypocrites. They don't support the principle behind either, the only purpose is to try and give China a bloody nose.

    Coupled with this, the people who vigorously defend the second amendment, do so on the basis that it is required to keep the government in check and they are standing by cheering as the government try to subvert the first amendment rights through violence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,926 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Give them a break. It's all they have to work with. They're doing their best.

    Be Best.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,454 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Coupled with this, the people who vigorously defend the second amendment, do so on the basis that it is required to keep the government in check and they are standing by cheering as the government try to subvert the first amendment rights through violence.

    That's because they are doing it to the "other" side. The hypocrisy is staggering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980



    Why are Trump supporters always so angry? I mean if everything is great again why are they always so angry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭da_miser


    Dem run cities are crime ridden hellholes, Chicago is on the path to ruin, NYC under the Dems is well on the way back to the 70's with crime rising daily, then we have San Francisco, its possibly a lost cause, shop lifting is now legal, people are fleeing in droves.
    One thing in common with these Dem run cities is that high earners who pay most of the tax are leaving, these Dems cities are only going to get worse as the tax money drys up.
    Chicago then has to go up a gear, gangs now looking to shoot Police, thats going to go down really well with regular folk , law and order going to break down, all under the Dems watch, Trump has to just sit back, call out the Dems, get them to ask for Federal help, the Dems wont, the population can see this and they will vote for Trump in huge numbers.
    Trump has been gifted the position of the law and order candidate by the incompetent Dems, hard working tax paying lifelong true Blue Dems will swallow their pride and out of self interest vote Trump come November, the alternative is Biden giving his blessing to Dem runs cities to continue down the path to rack and ruin.
    Biden is 10/11 and Trump is Evens, the odds are dropping, follow the money, Trump is playing a blinder by giving the Dems enough rope to hang themselves.
    https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-police-department-gangs-fbi-shootings/6397730/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,243 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy



    Sounds like a loud ignorant Trump supporter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,926 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Sounds like a loud ignorant Trump supporter.

    two of those adjectives are redundant.


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    da_miser wrote: »
    Dem run cities are crime ridden hellholes, Chicago is on the path to ruin, NYC under the Dems is well on the way back to the 70's with crime rising daily, then we have San Francisco, its possibly a lost cause, shop lifting is now legal, people are fleeing in droves.
    One thing in common with these Dem run cities is that high earners who pay most of the tax are leaving, these Dems cities are only going to get worse as the tax money drys up.
    Chicago then has to go up a gear, gangs now looking to shoot Police, thats going to go down really well with regular folk , law and order going to break down, all under the Dems watch, Trump has to just sit back, call out the Dems, get them to ask for Federal help, the Dems wont, the population can see this and they will vote for Trump in huge numbers.
    Trump has been gifted the position of the law and order candidate by the incompetent Dems, hard working tax paying lifelong true Blue Dems will swallow their pride and out of self interest vote Trump come November, the alternative is Biden giving his blessing to Dem runs cities to continue down the path to rack and ruin.
    Biden is 10/11 and Trump is Evens, the odds are dropping, follow the money, Trump is playing a blinder by giving the Dems enough rope to hang themselves.
    https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-police-department-gangs-fbi-shootings/6397730/

    So in the process of Trump making America great again, things have gotten far worse? But he's not to blame... What exactly will Trump do Miser?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,034 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    da_miser wrote: »
    Dem run cities are crime ridden hellholes, Chicago is on the path to ruin, NYC under the Dems is well on the way back to the 70's with crime rising daily, then we have San Francisco, its possibly a lost cause, shop lifting is now legal, people are fleeing in droves.
    One thing in common with these Dem run cities is that high earners who pay most of the tax are leaving, these Dems cities are only going to get worse as the tax money drys up.
    Chicago then has to go up a gear, gangs now looking to shoot Police, thats going to go down really well with regular folk , law and order going to break down, all under the Dems watch, Trump has to just sit back, call out the Dems, get them to ask for Federal help, the Dems wont, the population can see this and they will vote for Trump in huge numbers.
    Trump has been gifted the position of the law and order candidate by the incompetent Dems, hard working tax paying lifelong true Blue Dems will swallow their pride and out of self interest vote Trump come November, the alternative is Biden giving his blessing to Dem runs cities to continue down the path to rack and ruin.
    Biden is 10/11 and Trump is Evens, the odds are dropping, follow the money, Trump is playing a blinder by giving the Dems enough rope to hang themselves.
    https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-police-department-gangs-fbi-shootings/6397730/

    I'm struggling to think of a 1st term President which by their own admission had been such an abject failure.

    All the comments about the Dem's remind people that the emperor has no clothes.


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