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How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 962 ✭✭✭irishblessing


    iguana wrote: »
    Children need socialisation. I have an only child, lockdown was very, very tough for him. I want him to have his normal interactions with peers again. But not if the cost is a real risk of return to lockdown in the next few months. And certainly not at the risk of someone's life.

    One of my cousin's has an only child, going into 5th class this year. Cousin says she's been practically unphased by it all and has been her usual happy self. There's been just a few playdates with the same 2 neighbour kids and GAA training as well. Just wanted to point out that not all children need a high level of mixing and school bullying to be happy in life. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scoondal


    Bobtheman wrote: »
    Like a lot of people I get confused by all these statistics.
    But I know a few things
    1) We should have closed the airports. At the very least banned flights from countries not on the green list
    2) We should have had a deal with the north that meant we had a unified policy
    3) we need to clamp down on house parties and large groups. Civil law is not the way forward. A drug addict stealing bread has a better chance of landing in court than the organiser of a house party. Which is more dangerous?
    4) The minister said teachers refused covid sick leave can appeal. Is this the case or isn't it.
    Anyway up goes covid !

    From 1 July to 29 August Ireland had 39 deaths from covid19. In April alone Ireland had 1,147 deaths.
    Covid 19 is yesterday's news. Facts are facts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,512 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Scoondal wrote: »
    From 1 July to 29 August Ireland had 39 deaths from covid19. In April alone Ireland had 1,147 deaths.
    Covid 19 is yesterday's news. Facts are facts.

    Global pandemic over?

    Well I missed that memo.

    Nice one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scoondal


    Boggles wrote: »
    Global pandemic over?

    Well I missed that memo.

    Nice one.

    I didn't say that obviously. I quoted Irish details that can be viewed on the government website.
    Perhaps these facts do not fit with the lockdown threat again. But this is not my opinion. These are the facts that they provide.
    Anyone who wants to self isolate should do so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭combat14


    Scoondal wrote: »
    I didn't say that obviously. I quoted Irish details that can be viewed on the government website.
    Perhaps these facts do not fit with the lockdown threat again. But this is not my opinion. These are the facts that they provide.
    Anyone who wants to self isolate should do so.

    dont think pandemic is over- globally now at 25 million confirmed cases with on average 5,000 deaths per day over the last month or 150,000 deaths in one month alone

    experts here are predicting 4 more waves in Ireland by May 2021 when they hope a vaccine will be available so we are still at 6 months approx only early days with this

    but all schools open here now and street parties in killarney no less who would guess .. covid in ireland must surely be gone


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,512 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Scoondal wrote: »
    Covid 19 is yesterday's news.
    Scoondal wrote: »
    I didn't say that obviously.

    Ah yeah did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Parents are living in La La land if they think their kids are getting properly educated this term. The absenteeism rate will be running at least 50% for teachers by end of September.

    Schools will be little more than child minding facilities.

    Class teachers in my place reckon between the getting them in and out and all handwashing protocols they would be lucky to get English, Irish, Maths, and one other subject done daily.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 66 ✭✭Posh Dave


    good To see you have a can do attitude😀


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭combat14


    khalessi wrote: »
    Class teachers in my place reckon between the getting them in and out and all handwashing protocols they would be lucky to get English, Irish, Maths, and one other subject done daily.

    that's seems to be the plan in primary school english, maths, PE and SPHE - didnt hear irish mentioned by the way !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,441 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    khalessi wrote: »
    Class teachers in my place reckon between the getting them in and out and all handwashing protocols they would be lucky to get English, Irish, Maths, and one other subject done daily.

    I would have always considered that a good day anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,441 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    combat14 wrote: »
    that's seems to be the plan in primary school english, maths, PE and SPHE - didnt hear irish mentioned by the way !!

    The three cores plus PE and SPHE is what the department want for September.

    I'll be trying to get the normal routine up and running as soon as possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,797 ✭✭✭jimmytwotimes 2013


    How did they hold them with the limit of 50 for religious ceremonies?

    Was a classic pic in local press down here of all the confirmation mommies lined up shoulder-to-shoulder.

    SD a difficult concept to grasp seemingly


  • Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Schools will be little more than child minding facilities.

    This is why there is such a push to open the schools, to mind children. Madness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scoondal


    Parents are living in La La land if they think their kids are getting properly educated this term. The absenteeism rate will be running at least 50% for teachers by end of September.

    Schools will be little more than child minding facilities.

    Many parents use schools as free child minding facilities.
    I engage with my child's learning. That's why I was looking for more engagement from our school in April and May. But it seems they thought that I was a trouble maker or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭Locotastic


    combat14 wrote: »

    but all schools open here now and street parties in killarney no less who would guess .. covid in ireland must surely be gone

    That's just society slowly accepting the virus, don't worry you don't have to partake yourself if you don't want to.

    It going to snowball though and people will start to just live life as normally as possible again if they haven't already.
    The virus might be still circulating but the massive fear factor people had at the beginning is gone or on the way out.

    Garda powers won't extend to stopping people having parties in the privacy of their own home either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,798 ✭✭✭BonsaiKitten


    Parents are living in La La land if they think their kids are getting properly educated this term. The absenteeism rate will be running at least 50% for teachers by end of September.

    Schools will be little more than child minding facilities.

    Won’t be any child minding if teachers are out sick and there’s no subs. Parents will have to do it themselves...


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    If covid is yesterday's news why is the amount of cases rising??!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,441 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Won’t be any child minding if teachers are out sick and there’s no subs. Parents will have to do it themselves...

    Already seeing first cases of teachers having to miss days this week due to Covid absences. Husband/partner tested positive or they are a close contact of a positive test.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 66 ✭✭Posh Dave


    dont forget teachers are paid to teach (or you would like to call it a free childminding service). I pay my taxes so my children can be educated so maybe you should start doing your job and stop complaining. Maybe it’s the thought of doing work after 6 months off on full pay has got you worried?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    Bobtheman wrote: »
    If covid is yesterday's news why is the amount of cases rising??!

    It's not yesterday's news. The second wave hasn't even hit yet.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,797 ✭✭✭jimmytwotimes 2013


    Posh Dave wrote: »
    dont forget teachers are paid to teach (or you would like to call it a free childminding service). I pay my taxes so my children can be educated so maybe you should start doing your job and stop complaining. Maybe it’s the thought of doing work after 6 months off on full pay has got you worried?

    Stick to them Dave


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭jrosen


    Would the need for more teachers mean the newly graduated teachers should be able to get a job easier? I spoke with 2 newly graduated teaches during the week neither of who had a job yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭screamer


    The protocol around testing children in schools just worries me even more. No social distancing, no masks in primary schools, poor ventilation and stuck together in rooms for hours every day. Perhaps tested if one child tests positive, perhaps not. Mental. NONE of the rules that adults must live by apply to kids. Get ready to ride the covid wave, I give it till mid October.


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    Id prefer not to go into a work environment that was on a par with other work Places safety wise. But it is what it is.
    But i won't put up with people saying covid is beaten when it's rising.
    I'd also like to see an online teaching plan very soon .
    Comprehensive. Not fxxxx bespoke bull****.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,797 ✭✭✭jimmytwotimes 2013


    Bobtheman wrote: »
    Id prefer not to go into a work environment that was on a par with other work Places safety wise. But it is what it is.
    But i won't put up with people saying covid is beaten when it's rising.
    I'd also like to see an online teaching plan very soon .
    Comprehensive. Not fxxxx bespoke bull****.

    Don't see what they'll put in an online plan given schools use Google classroom, Teams etc. and areas of the country have excellent to awful broadband etc.

    It'll be as vague as the covid guidelines to date


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    Posh Dave wrote: »
    dont forget teachers are paid to teach (or you would like to call it a free childminding service). I pay my taxes so my children can be educated so maybe you should start doing your job and stop complaining. Maybe it’s the thought of doing work after 6 months off on full pay has got you worried?

    Gee what a convincing argument. Whoever taught the genre of argument should be sacked.
    I'm sure your work environment is safe. There is nothing wrong in anybody desiring the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭Murple


    jrosen wrote: »
    Would the need for more teachers mean the newly graduated teachers should be able to get a job easier? I spoke with 2 newly graduated teaches during the week neither of who had a job yet.

    They’ll likely get subbing but it will be dependent on where they are willing and able to work. Huge shortage in areas of Dublin but it’s hard to afford rent unless you are in very stable regular work.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 66 ✭✭Posh Dave


    Bobtheman wrote: »
    Gee what a convincing argument. Whoever taught the genre of argument should be sacked.
    I'm sure your work environment is safe. There is nothing wrong in anybody desiring the same.

    Just accept that Absolute safety is not possible. For your information people in my work place have contracted COVID.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,129 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    God I'm just remembering my mattymattick days lol. So many equations and theorems.... completely unreal stuff and so on that was so alien to me and for what?

    Got a great number in an organisation that was number focused and I survived. And I do realise that maths is necessary for many potential jobs, but god was it tough.

    Got a calculator on the phone now. ACE!

    There may be too much focus on THINGS rather than learning what's around you and appreciating it. No offence to the maths genii out there either. It doesn't come naturally to many like myself.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭jrosen


    Murple wrote: »
    They’ll likely get subbing but it will be dependent on where they are willing and able to work. Huge shortage in areas of Dublin but it’s hard to afford rent unless you are in very stable regular work.

    That could help with the sub issue which is a positive.


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