2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

statesaver · 30-08-2020 04:42PM

The guy Rittenhouse shot in the arm says he regrets not shooting him dead.

Rittenhouse defence team will use that in court. Just shows Rittenhouse was right to shoot first.

duploelabs · 30-08-2020 04:43PM

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

Sick. The police need to come down hard on BLM.

BLM is a protest, the police would be acting against the constitution if they did

Dyr · 30-08-2020 04:44PM

duploelabs wrote: »

https://apnews.com/0994e25654d255e552aaad8a15e16c84

Who don't you quote the part that states he crossed a state line with a firearm, good chap.

Absolute state of the American press though, a guy with a criminal record as a long as yer arm that wailing on a kid with skateboard "was a sweet guy"...yeah domestic abusers are sweet people as are violent paedos

Apparently he was struggling for control of the gun too, must have been a different video to the one I watched, same one that had a "medic" get shot in the arm that he was using to point a gun at the person who shot him

This is why Trump is in with a shout now, people see the press blatantly lie to maintain a narrative.

LessOutragePlz · 30-08-2020 04:45PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

You're embarrassing yourself now by repeating Fox News talking points, try to have an original thought once in a while. By the way can you point where people are defending violent thugs?? The only ones I have seen trying to defend violence are the Trumpists defending the shooter in Kenosha with the classic "I'm not condoning it but.......".

Hahaha every fact has to come from fox news these days right! Not one of us can think for ourselves unlike the other side who are all free thinkers and not one bit brainwashed into a victim culture and identity politics :rolleyes:

Plenty of BLM supporters out there saying the looting and rioting are reparations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fs9xm8Aw_s

Carfacemandog · 30-08-2020 04:45PM

Bambi wrote: »

Those facts sound bad, you have proof that he crossed a state line with a firearm and are going to provide it of course.

Nothing to say on Biden's campaign denouncing Richard Spencer and his support like Trump's never did? You're the one who brought it up, after all.

Moving on...

How do you think Rittenhouse got from Illinois (where he lives and was arrested) to Wisconsin, two separate states?

If your response is that he may have purchased or been given the gun in Illinois, then he was still in illegal possession of said gun as you have to be 18 to do so in Wisconsin. This would also be something to look at moving forward - how he got this gun in Wisconsin and how to stop something like that from happening again.

He was also breaking the law by being in open carry possession of a firearms in Wisconsin below the age of 18 is illegal. The only exceptions to this are target practice or training courses, under the supervision of an adult - none of which appears applicable here, nor defences one would want to take given the circumstances.

The police, rather than questioning him in this and removing the gun from his possession, instead thanked him for his illegally armed presence there, and later let him walk right past them to go home after he had shot 3 people, killing 2.

Cody montana · 30-08-2020 04:53PM

Bambi wrote: »

You're comparing shooting paintballs at people to hitting a cop in the back of the head with a tyre hub?

One will get you charged with attempted murder of a police officer,

The other might get you charged with assault, depending on the circumstances

See if you can guess which is which

It’s all violence, that’s my point.
From both sides.

namloc1980 · 30-08-2020 04:53PM

statesaver wrote: »

The guy Rittenhouse shot in the arm says he regrets not shooting him dead.

Rittenhouse defence team will use that in court. Just shows Rittenhouse was right to shoot first.

Apart from the fact it's inadmissable and not relevant.

namloc1980 · 30-08-2020 05:02PM

Trump is golfing again today and rage tweeting on Twitter. You'd imagine he'd have some work to do. Remember when he used to complain about Obama golfing?

Cody montana · 30-08-2020 05:04PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Trump is golfing again today and rage tweeting on Twitter. You'd imagine he'd have some work to do.

The country is in dire need of a leader and a unifying calming voice.

extra gravy · 30-08-2020 05:20PM

https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1300054806665584640?s=19

This is a great idea. Trump would be broke by the end of it.

duploelabs · 30-08-2020 05:23PM

Cody montana wrote: »

The country is in dire need of a leader and a unifying calming voice.

Crazy to think some people believe that a person can only be guilty of murder if the victim has never ever committed a crime before. If that's such the legal case, then it'd free up a lot of prison space

LessOutragePlz · 30-08-2020 05:26PM

https://twitter.com/PollWatch2020/status/1299923590410690562?s=20

Trump is up nationally and in battlegrounds, we all know polls aren't always reliable but it ain't looking good for Biden at the moment.

30-08-2020 05:35PM

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PollWatch2020/status/1299923590410690562?s=20

Trump is up nationally and in battlegrounds, we all know polls aren't always reliable but it ain't looking good for Biden at the moment.

That's a poll funded by the Sunday Express so far from the most reputable.

duploelabs · 30-08-2020 05:42PM

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PollWatch2020/status/1299923590410690562?s=20

Trump is up nationally and in battlegrounds, we all know polls aren't always reliable but it ain't looking good for Biden at the moment.

That tweeter has absolutely no credentials, not even a website

LessOutragePlz · 30-08-2020 05:50PM

duploelabs wrote: »

That tweeter has absolutely no credentials, not even a website

Their tweeting the results of a poll how much credentials does one need to tweet the results of a poll?

Source of the poll and methods used in the polling are stated here:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1329181/us-election-2020-donald-trump-joe-biden

circular flexing · 30-08-2020 06:08PM

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PollWatch2020/status/1299923590410690562?s=20

Trump is up nationally and in battlegrounds, we all know polls aren't always reliable but it ain't looking good for Biden at the moment.

538 has that company graded an F and suspects them of faking their data. I did a quick search and can't find any breakdown of the questions asked or the responses broken down by demographics, pretty basic stuff for a poll.

dwayneshintzy · 30-08-2020 06:19PM

Doing a search here, and the Democracy Institute have had Trump leading in every poll they've done against Biden. This isn't a "shock" new anything from them, they are literally the only people who have Trump ahead of Biden; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_2020_United_States_presidential_election

Kidchameleon · 30-08-2020 06:19PM

extra gravy wrote: »

This is a great idea. Trump would be broke by the end of it.

Its up to the debate participants to prove each other wrong, not some team of helpers. It would look very weak on Biden's part to have helpers.

Kidchameleon · 30-08-2020 06:23PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Also Chameleon concluding that Rittenhouse killed evil people... Sounding damn like an effort to justify and celebrate his actions.

extra gravy wrote: »

You were victim blaming earlier and thanking a post that praised a killer's shooting skills. You're in no position to take the moral high ground here.

Please look back at my posts in question. I stated in a big black font that nobody deserved to die. I was specifically exploring the idea that he was defending himself.

Again, I put it in big black letters in order to avoid accusations like the above. But sure, ignore it if it suits you.

Gerry Hatrick · 30-08-2020 06:26PM

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PollWatch2020/status/1299923590410690562?s=20

Trump is up nationally and in battlegrounds, we all know polls aren't always reliable but it ain't looking good for Biden at the moment.

Biden needs to be at least 10 points clear going into the final week of campaigning to stand a chance. I think Clinton was 8 points clear and still lost.

I don't want to see Trump win but then again Biden is a horrible candidate and person so I'm torn.

MadYaker · 30-08-2020 06:28PM

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

Biden needs to be at least 10 points clear going into the final week of campaigning to stand a chance. I think Clinton was 8 points clear and still lost.

I don't want to see Trump win but then again Biden is a horrible candidate and person so I'm torn.

This is so transparent. You're new here (or are you?), we've seen this a million times from different people on this thread over the last few years. You're not in the slightest bit torn.

dwayneshintzy · 30-08-2020 06:29PM

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

Biden needs to be at least 10 points clear going into the final week of campaigning to stand a chance. I think Clinton was 8 points clear and still lost.

I don't want to see Trump win but then again Biden is a horrible candidate and person so I'm torn.

She wasn't; as I linked earlier in the thread, Clinton was up 3.9% on the day of the election according to 538 and she wont the popular vote by 2.1%. That is within the margin of error.

The Democracy Institute poll linked above is not a serious poll.

MadYaker · 30-08-2020 06:30PM

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

She wasn't; as I linked earlier in the thread, Clinton was up 3.9% on the day of the election according to 538 and she wont the popular vote by 2.1%. That is within the margin of error.

The Democracy Institute poll linked above is not a serious poll.

The poster you're replying to is most likely well aware of this.

extra gravy · 30-08-2020 06:32PM

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Please look back at my posts in question. I stated in a big black font that nobody deserved to die. I was specifically exploring the idea that he was defending himself.

Again, I put it in big black letters in order to avoid accusations like the above. But sure, ignore it if it suits you.

"Two dead bad guys and dude who was pointing a a gun at the kid loses half his arm. No stray rounds. Damn fine shooting if you ask me."

From a post you thanked. Usually people thank posts that they agree with.

LessOutragePlz · 30-08-2020 06:32PM

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

Biden needs to be at least 10 points clear going into the final week of campaigning to stand a chance. I think Clinton was 8 points clear and still lost.

I don't want to see Trump win but then again Biden is a horrible candidate and person so I'm torn.

Yeah very true part of me wants Trump to win just see the meltdown that would occur here and on other media outlets, they're both sh1te candidates IMO. It's like that episode of south park where they have to choose between a giant douche and a turd sandwich

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MadYaker · 30-08-2020 06:38PM

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

Yeah very true part of me wants Trump to win just see the meltdown that would occur here and on other media outlets, they're both sh1te candidates IMO. It's like that episode of south park where they have to choose between a giant douche and a turd sandwich .

There wouldn't actually be a melt down on here, there'll be one on r/politics on reddit alright but we watch for entertainment purposes only. The US president has little no actual effect on my life.

The real crying will come when Trump loses. Then the fun will really start. You can already see him laying the ground work saying he's facing a rigged election etc. Should be mighty craic.

Igotadose · 30-08-2020 06:43PM

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Please look back at my posts in question. I stated in a big black font that nobody deserved to die. I was specifically exploring the idea that he was defending himself.

Doesn't matter. Not a 'stand your ground' state. He can't shoot anyone. Period. No ifs, ands, buts.

The police can. He's not a police officer. He's too young.

One of the people he killed, was trying to disarm him after he'd shot someone else. He probably saved other lives.

Direct question - the guy he killed who was trying to disarm him. Is he a hero? Despite previous convictions? Despite being at the protest?

30-08-2020 06:46PM

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Its up to the debate participants to prove each other wrong, not some team of helpers. It would look very weak on Biden's part to have helpers.

In other words if he can't talk sh1te, trump has nothing.

Another thing some of his supporters on here have in common with him.

Kidchameleon · 30-08-2020 06:55PM

Igotadose wrote: »

Direct question - the guy he killed who was trying to disarm him. Is he a hero? Despite previous convictions? Despite being at the protest?

Referring to Rosenbaum? He's a pedophile with a history of violence. He was filmed actively seeking to be shot moments before the incident. He's not my idea of a hero, no.

*Disclaimer* He did not deserve to be shot IMHO.

LessOutragePlz · 30-08-2020 06:58PM

DubInMeath wrote: »

In other words if he can't talk sh1te, trump has nothing.

Another thing some of his supporters on here have in common with him.

I mean it would be impossible to fact check if Trump has Made America Great Again because it is subjective.

Plenty think he hasn't but some think he has or at least believe he's done enough to warrant another 4 years as president.

If they did use fact checkers then who would fact check the fact checkers? because I'm sure that will be the first thing out of Trump's mouth if the plan is even considered.

2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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