Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

Atlantic Dawn · 30-08-2020 04:02PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://twitter.com/skynewsbreak/status/1300080823757045760?s=21

So much for no need for social distancing because of advanced filtration systems better than any bus where you can open windows

iamwhoiam · 30-08-2020 04:06PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

So much for no need for social distancing because of advanced filtration systems better than any bus where you can open windows

Maybe they all had it before they boarded that plane . Lets see how many test positive

s1ippy · 30-08-2020 04:09PM

Strumms wrote: »

The government have not led by example. If you go out and you see me steal a car... can you say... “Strumms is stealing a nice Merc, I’ll do the same” ? Or will you say.. “well that’s not good, we’d all like a nice new merc but stealing is wrong” ?

Unfortunately the way politicians, pubs and some other sectors of society have behaved is ****e. That doesn’t present a hall pass to the rest of us to rip up all of the hard work that got us this far... if my neighbor is robbing banks, that doesn’t mean I can.

If your job is making you do something which is plainly wrong, can't you at least question it? Many jobs are putting staff at risk.

And two wrongs clearly don't make a right as you demonstrated, but when it's both your job AND the government saying "it's fine to be mixing in these settings but you're forbidden from doing it in your own time", that's a sad state of affairs.

I'm not justifying the videos of drunk people, just trying to understand why they would do it. It's hard for me to be annoyed with them.

sideswipe · 30-08-2020 04:14PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The behaviour last night in Killarney was very disheartening to see. I am high risk and live with someone who is very high risk. I already lost my mother to covid in April.

I have spent the last almost six months working from home, shopping online exclusively (which is not cheap) and trying to minimise any trips I make out to essential trips only. Basically I've been putting in every effort I can to stay healthy in that time. Its not easy. It does take self-discipline. I am craving a day out to just browse around my favourite shops so badly, but I remind myself I am doing this because I don't want to risk becoming infected, or transmitting the virus to anyone else if i did become infected.

But when you are putting in so much effort and then see so many carelessly ignoring the basic things asked of them, and the likes of the behaviour in Killarney last night or in Berlin last weekend, you can't help but get angry and upset.

There is no way we are "all in this together". There can be no easing of restrictions for me, I can't risk dropping my guard while other people are being idiots and not playing their part. And the sad thing is, it is possible to socialise without being an asshole.

This is not about being a "killjoy" though no doubt that is what I will be accused of being. If everyone played their part, it would be safer for ALL, including those of us who are high risk, to return to something closer to the normality we had before. Because that is ultimately what we want too. I increasingly feel invisible and that the risk to my life is unimportant to those outside my four walls.

It was working. We had cases down to less then 10 per day at one point, then it all went to hell. And now winter is coming and cases are over a hundred a day again even before the schools go back. I'm starting to despair that this will never be over.

On the positive side you seem to have become very adept at managing your own situation, control of that is what is most important.
Personally I don’t think We can lock down young people for months and years, if people want to sing and dance in the streets let them off. I can get with the ‘in this together’ thing at my age (mid 40’s) but if I was in my 20’s I don’t think I’d have accepted a year or two of not socialising.
Don’t forget how strict things have been here, a lot of countries in Europe that were effected worse than us have had pubs and night clubs open over the summer.
Anyway just my take, ****e situation for everyone really, mind yourself.

Thierry12 · 30-08-2020 04:17PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The behaviour last night in Killarney was very disheartening to see. I am high risk and live with someone who is very high risk. I already lost my mother to covid in April.

I have spent the last almost six months working from home, shopping online exclusively (which is not cheap) and trying to minimise any trips I make out to essential trips only. Basically I've been putting in every effort I can to stay healthy in that time. Its not easy. It does take self-discipline. I am craving a day out to just browse around my favourite shops so badly, but I remind myself I am doing this because I don't want to risk becoming infected, or transmitting the virus to anyone else if i did become infected.

But when you are putting in so much effort and then see so many carelessly ignoring the basic things asked of them, and the likes of the behaviour in Killarney last night or in Berlin last weekend, you can't help but get angry and upset.

There is no way we are "all in this together". There can be no easing of restrictions for me, I can't risk dropping my guard while other people are being idiots and not playing their part. And the sad thing is, it is possible to socialise without being an asshole.

This is not about being a "killjoy" though no doubt that is what I will be accused of being. If everyone played their part, it would be safer for ALL, including those of us who are high risk, to return to something closer to the normality we had before. Because that is ultimately what we want too. I increasingly feel invisible and that the risk to my life is unimportant to those outside my four walls.

It was working. We had cases down to less then 10 per day at one point, then it all went to hell. And now winter is coming and cases are over a hundred a day again even before the schools go back. I'm starting to despair that this will never be over.

No offence Loueze but your old now, your outlook is biased

If you were 18 - 21 like most in those Killarney/Berlin videos would you have wrote that post?

We are in not in this together

The Golfing incident with 81 fat old men drinking and dining till 4am is proof to that

I would turn your anger to them, not young adults dancing in the street

MD1990 · 30-08-2020 04:28PM

Thierry12 wrote: »

No offence Loueze but your old now, your outlook is biased

If you were 18 - 21 like most in those Killarney/Berlin videos would you have wrote that post?

We are in not in this together

The Golfing incident with 81 fat old men drinking and dining till 4am is proof to that

I would turn your anger to them, not young adults dancing in the street

very self centered post that.

Look after number one

owlbethere · 30-08-2020 04:29PM

sideswipe wrote: »

On the positive side you seem to have become very adept at managing your own situation, control of that is what is most important.
Personally I don’t think We can lock down young people for months and years, if people want to sing and dance in the streets let them off. I can get with the ‘in this together’ thing at my age (mid 40’s) but if I was in my 20’s I don’t think I’d have accepted a year or two of not socialising.
Don’t forget how strict things have been here, a lot of countries in Europe that were effected worse than us have had pubs and night clubs open over the summer.
Anyway just my take, ****e situation for everyone really, mind yourself.

They are not asked to not socialise. They are asked not to meet or gather in large crowds. There's nothing wrong with a small group of them like 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 of them meeting up together. The problem occurs where a large group of them gathers together. Do they realistically know everybody in the gathering and their whereabouts and movements over the past 14 days? They don't and that's a risk for an exposure and putting others at risk.

Renjit · 30-08-2020 04:33PM

Thierry12 wrote: »

No offence Loueze but your old now, your outlook is biased

If you were 18 - 21 like most in those Killarney/Berlin videos would you have wrote that post?

We are in not in this together

The Golfing incident with 81 fat old men drinking and dining till 4am is proof to that

I would turn your anger to them, not young adults dancing in the street

Nest time virus will check your date of birth first

Thierry12 · 30-08-2020 04:36PM

Renjit wrote: »

Nest time virus will check your date of birth first

It does.;-)

30-08-2020 04:37PM

Thierry12 wrote: »

No offence Loueze but your old now, your outlook is biased

If you were 18 - 21 like most in those Killarney/Berlin videos would you have wrote that post?

We are in not in this together

The Golfing incident with 81 fat old men drinking and dining till 4am is proof to that

I would turn your anger to them, not young adults dancing in the street

I'm not that old. I'm 50.

I live with my 23 year old daughter who feels exactly the same way I do, so no, not every younger person is as feckless as you describe. Some do recognise the gravity of the situation we're living in.

I also know other younger people who are living with high risk parents / grandparents and manage to contain themselves - and even socialise responsibly because they care about the people they live with / come into contact with.

Its a choice. You either care, or you don't. Sadly, given the scenes we're seeing now in the likes of Killarney and Dublin, it appears more don't.

And I will be angry about it.

Benimar · 30-08-2020 04:37PM

Thierry12 wrote: »

No offence Loueze but your old now, your outlook is biased

If you were 18 - 21 like most in those Killarney/Berlin videos would you have wrote that post?

We are in not in this together

The Golfing incident with 81 fat old men drinking and dining till 4am is proof to that

I would turn your anger to them, not young adults dancing in the street

Or how about we turn our anger on both showers of fcukwits?

niallo27 · 30-08-2020 04:39PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm not that old.

I live with my 23 year old daughter who feels exactly the same way I do, so no, not every younger person is as feckless as you describe. Some do recognise the gravity of the situation we're living in.

I also know some younger people who are living with high risk parents / grandparents and manage to contain themselves - and even socialise responsibly because they care about the people they live with / come into contact with.

Its a choice. You either care, or you don't. Sadly, given the scenes we're seeing now in the likes of Killarney and Dublin, it appears more don't.

And I will be angry about it.

You can be angry all you want it will make no difference, you can't stop young people from trying to have some bit of a life.

30-08-2020 04:40PM

Thierry12 wrote: »

No offence Loueze but your old now, your outlook is biased

If you were 18 - 21 like most in those Killarney/Berlin videos would you have wrote that post?

We are in not in this together

The Golfing incident with 81 fat old men drinking and dining till 4am is proof to that

I would turn your anger to them, not young adults dancing in the street

Since when does age determine if someone is a dick? it doesn't, your born that way or not.

ACitizenErased · 30-08-2020 04:41PM

With all due respect the vast majority of people are following the rules. Two incidents caught on camera is not good enough criteria to suggest “nobody cares about the restrictions”. I don’t really get that logic.

JP Liz V1 · 30-08-2020 04:44PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm not that old. I'm 50.

I live with my 23 year old daughter who feels exactly the same way I do, so no, not every younger person is as feckless as you describe. Some do recognise the gravity of the situation we're living in.

I also know other younger people who are living with high risk parents / grandparents and manage to contain themselves - and even socialise responsibly because they care about the people they live with / come into contact with.

Its a choice. You either care, or you don't. Sadly, given the scenes we're seeing now in the likes of Killarney and Dublin, it appears more don't.

And I will be angry about it.

Take Care, I'm sorry about your mam

Some young and old just don't give a care about the global pandemic as long as they have fun

smurfjed · 30-08-2020 04:45PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

So much for no need for social distancing because of advanced filtration systems better than any bus where you can open windows

The SKY report states that they were 3 different parties, the interesting part of this will be discovering how many, if any, other passengers from outside these 3 parties got infected and if they were wearing masks or not.

DebDynamite · 30-08-2020 04:47PM

niallo27 wrote: »

You can be angry all you want it will make no difference, you can't stop young people from trying to have some bit of a life.

Yep, I think maybe Loueze should ask herself would she or even her parents have gone 6 months minimum with no end in sight without going to a dance/disco/nightclub when they were in their youth?

My parents are in their late 60s/early70s and were mad for the dances back in the day. My mother and her friends would travel all over for the dances - they lived for them. Even during war times there were dances. I think older people need to remember this a little bit and maybe have a little bit more understanding to what young people are going through.

niallo27 · 30-08-2020 04:50PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

Yep, I think maybe Loueze should ask herself would she or even her parents have gone 6 months minimum with no end in sight without going to a dance/disco/nightclub when they were in their youth?

My parents are in their late 60s/70s and were mad for the dances back in the day. My mother and her friends would travel all over for the dances - they lived for them. Even during war times there were dances. I think older people need to remember this a little bit and maybe have a little bit more understanding to what young people are going through.

Plus most of these younger people probably don't even know anyone who even got the disease never mind get sick from it, so after 6 months its human nature to think it wont affect you

JP Liz V1 · 30-08-2020 04:52PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

With all due respect the vast majority of people are following the rules. Two incidents caught on camera is not good enough criteria to suggest “nobody cares about the restrictions”. I don’t really get that logic.

I think they has been more than 2 incidents, Clifden golfgate, Limerick house party, Ennis beach party, Killarney house party where infected carrier travelled down from Dublin by train, we all need to take responsibility and be sensible but when alcohol and drugs is involved no one is

s1ippy · 30-08-2020 04:54PM

Not that anyone needed any more proof that Pat Kenny is ak unt.

It just demonstrates the dual view held by rich ****. Sean O'Rourke "did nothing wrong", yet young people or normal people who don't adhere to guidelines should virtually be preemptively arrested if Pat were in charge. Complete double standards.

You really have to do some serious mental gymnastics to arrive at both of those verdicts with the same brain. Or just plainly be a classist, ageist prick.

I'd like to see a poll done about whether people are currently following the restrictions, and why or why not. There is undoubtedly less compliance now than two weeks ago and I would assert that it's as a direct consequence of golfgate.

iamwhoiam · 30-08-2020 04:55PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

Yep, I think maybe Loueze should ask herself would she or even her parents have gone 6 months minimum with no end in sight without going to a dance/disco/nightclub when they were in their youth?

My parents are in their late 60s/early70s and were mad for the dances back in the day. My mother and her friends would travel all over for the dances - they lived for them. Even during war times there were dances. I think older people need to remember this a little bit and maybe have a little bit more understanding to what young people are going through.

And maybe young people need to remember what older people are going through too . People in nursing homes not seeing their families , watching their friends die , elderly not seeing grandchildren and being isolated for weeks
The young are not the only ones going through tough times you know

fr336 · 30-08-2020 04:56PM

Only one Covid recorded death in the UK today

30-08-2020 05:00PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

Yep, I think maybe Loueze should ask herself would she or even her parents have gone 6 months minimum with no end in sight without going to a dance/disco/nightclub when they were in their youth?

When I was that age, I lived with my mother, father (with heart failure) and grandmother (diabetic). There is no way in hell I would have been so selfish as to put them at risk for my own pleasure. I loved them too much.

Again, its the difference between caring, and not caring. Not making excuses for "youth". Selfish or unselfish. You either are, or you aren't. I make the point again, hopefully for the last time - it is possible to see your friends, and socialise, without being an asshole.

There is no need for the kind of drunken carry on like what happened in te streets of Killarney last night, or in Berlin bar last weekend, to have a good time, and youth is no excuse for it.

Assetbacked · 30-08-2020 05:02PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Plus most of these younger people probably don't even know anyone who even got the disease never mind get sick from it, so after 6 months its human nature to think it wont affect you

It's not just human nature, it is a fact as reflected in the data.

Thierry12 · 30-08-2020 05:05PM

fr336 wrote: »

Only one Covid recorded death in the UK today

While 450 died of cancer on that day in the UK

That Pat Kenny piece is sickening to read, more ivory tower rubbish from elite

Renjit · 30-08-2020 05:13PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

Even during war times there were dances.

Logic just did a harakiri here :pac:

Vicxas · 30-08-2020 05:21PM

0 deaths. 42 cases

Stheno · 30-08-2020 05:22PM

Vicxas wrote: »

0 deaths. 42 cases

Let's hope this is the beginning of a sustained reduction in cases

Gael23 · 30-08-2020 05:24PM

Very positive news

Jim_Hodge · 30-08-2020 05:24PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

Yep, I think maybe Loueze should ask herself would she or even her parents have gone 6 months minimum with no end in sight without going to a dance/disco/nightclub when they were in their youth?

My parents are in their late 60s/early70s and were mad for the dances back in the day. My mother and her friends would travel all over for the dances - they lived for them. Even during war times there were dances. I think older people need to remember this a little bit and maybe have a little bit more understanding to what young people are going through.

As someone in the age bracket of your parents I can tell you we would have put up with no dances for the sake of the public health.

Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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