South Wexford line status

If and when the line is made impassable, will there be a passenger train running on the line just before this happens, so that some people can have another chance of experiencing the journey?
I don't know how feasible it is, and I'd say it would probably be very slow, but I think it would be an interesting thing to do.

ohographite wrote: »

If and when the line is made impassable, will there be a passenger train running on the line just before this happens, so that some people can have another chance of experiencing the journey?
I don't know how feasible it is, and I'd say it would probably be very slow, but I think it would be an interesting thing to do.

This was the answer that I received from CIE in 2013 (!) regarding the possible operation of a special over the line, so I don't think there's the slightest chance of one operating now. A greenway from Waterford to Gorey is the only way to go.

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Some rumors going around but nothing confirmed as yet.

daniel_t1409 wrote: »

Thanks for this. Of course, nobody will actually listen and the track will still be ripped up for a greenway that will only be used in the summer.


Also, do you know anything about the condition of the barrow bridge?

i don't know anything for definite but what i have heard is that in true CIE fashion they done it up not long before closure.

Working class heroes wrote: »

So when is it closing?

2010 to all but maintenence stock and the odd stock transfer.

end of the road wrote: »

i don't know anything for definite but what i have heard is that in true CIE fashion they done it up not long before closure.

To be fair to CIE / IR, the bridge was constantly being done up. Any metal moving bridge needs continuous work and the Barrow viaduct had the added complication of being struck by ships from time to time, resulting in extensive repairs.

tabbey wrote: »

To be fair to CIE / IR, the bridge was constantly being done up. Any metal moving bridge needs continuous work and the Barrow viaduct had the added complication of being struck by ships from time to time, resulting in extensive repairs.

When was the last time it was struck by a ship?

daniel_t1409 wrote: »

Last year, I went around and looked at all the stations on the line.

Campile is nothing more than a weedy platform. Ballycullane is the same except the shelter is still there. At Wellingtonbridge the building is still there, along with the footbridge. If the railway is never going to be reopened, I would love if they turned the old station building into something else, like a cafe or something. Nothing is left at Duncormick. Bridgetown is the same as Campile except a lot more weeds and people hanging around the area.

I did get a few pictures at Campile and Ballycullane but I can't seem to find them on my computer.

So no change then. Even when the line was open CIE/IE had performed a scorched earth policy of removing all the buildings save for Wellingtonbridge. For years there wasn't even a nameboard at Ballycullane!!

IE 222 wrote: »

Not South Wexford line but I see Rosslare services will be removed from Connolly if these Dart plans are anything to go by, see below link.

I can see a case for this for additional off peak services but I think 2 morning and evening peak services should continue into and out of Connolly and leave a Wexford - Greystones shuttle throughout the day.

https://www.irishrail.ie/Admin/getmedia/84a2dd95-c0a2-4e77-bc98-30d8cfdf75b0/Annex-3-4A-Appendix-A-Peak-Hour-Service-Plans.pdf

Sure why not just turn all Cork - Dublin trains around at Portlaoise?

man98 wrote: »

Sure why not just turn all Cork - Dublin trains around at Portlaoise?

Cause it doesn't need to negotiate a speed restricted, single line on the edge of a cliff before entering a 10 mile final section where a stopper service with 17 stops runs every 10 mins until it reaches its purposed destination.

I'm sure Sligo services would of been in trouble if it wasn't possible to double the single track between Clonsilla and Maynooth.

I'm sure it will be avoided as its apart of the "do minimum" approach IE seem to taking with everything bar levelcrossings on this Dart upgrade. It will cause a storm in the public consultations. Bit in saying that its the only realistic way and option of increasing services on the line.

Might as well close the line south of Bray/Greystones completely as any nonsense where people have to change trains at Bray will surely kill it off anyway.

marno21 wrote: »

Has anyone got an alternative? A practical alternative now not “I think there’s room for everyone”

Much higher volumes of passengers on the DART.

Even if Dublin to Rosslare had an hourly service frequency, that would just mean there would be space for one less DART train an hour, and no increase between Bray and Greystones.
That's not going to make much of a difference to the service quality of the DART.

I cant see them pulling this one off. They'll no doubt try but I'd be surprised if it wasn't met with strong opposition. Wicklow is in desperate need of more trains.

Until we see what's to be included in the Dart South Coastal or whatever it's called it's hard to tell. IE where backing plans for a radical change and redevelopment of Connolly but seem to have now opted for minimal approach unless they plan to include the Connolly upgrades with the Northern upgrades at a later date to hide the costs. Either way each option doesn't cater for Rosslare when you look at the operational set up of the improvements as they want terminate Maynooth services on platform 7. There should be space to include a smaller (Rosslare is limited in train length) southern turn back in the new layout.

Even if you resolve the Bray head issue with Double tracking either side of the first portals to increase the number of services you are still stuck behind a stopping service so will make no odds really if on a IC or Dart.

The plan is to turn back some services at Dun Laoghaire. Good timetabling should allow a IC some free paths around DL services.

The best Rosslare will ever do is retain its current service level with likely longer journey times.

To see any increases in services a Wexford - Greystones shuttle is the only option really. The time it takes to get a set to do Greystones - Connolly - Greystones is longer than Greystones - Gorey - Greystones. A set running Wexford - Greystones - Wexford would offer an extra 4 return trips south of Greystones each day.

L1011 wrote: »

If changing trains is such a no-no, why do people keep suggest reopening branch lines?

Hardly the same thing having to change at Ballybrophy for Nenagh etc. off a Dublin/Cork train as Dublin/Cork passengers having to disembark at Ballybropy and join another train before proceeding to Cork.