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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Biker79


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Another day , another drop in polling from his favourite pollster

    His satisfaction rating has dropped every single day since the start of the Convention.

    He was at 51% Satisfaction last Saturday , and was Tweeting all about it. which was a 2 point increase described as a "surge" in satisfaction.

    Today he's at 46% Approval - a 5% drop when he has been front and centre in the media all week.

    If a 2 point increase is a "Surge" what is a 5 point drop?

    Rubbish.

    Choose an outcome - say, Trump is being hamered in the polls. Its quite newsworthy. Then, design a few polls with this outcome in mind and... Ta-da - Trump is now falling behind in the polls. Keep it up and it may stick in the minds of voters.

    Except as we all know from 2016, the polls only exist to keep desperate data analysts in work, they have no real value.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,687 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Biker79 wrote: »
    Rubbish.

    Choose an outcome - say, Trump is being hamered in the polls. Its quite newsworthy. Then, design a few polls with this outcome in mind and... Ta-da - Trump is now falling behind in the polls. Keep it up and it may stick in the minds of voters.

    Except as we all know from 2016, the polls only exist to keep desperate data analysts in work, they have no real value.

    Who is this 'we'? You and your mirror? You talk a lot about 'we.' Have you seen a therapist? Sometimes, yinno, those little men whispering in your ear don't exist. It's one of the many symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia. You can look it up.

    In 2016, it was called within the margin of error at the end. And, that's how it unfortunately turned out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,074 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Biker79 wrote: »
    Rubbish.

    Choose an outcome - say, Trump is being hamered in the polls. Its quite newsworthy. Then, design a few polls with this outcome in mind and... Ta-da - Trump is now falling behind in the polls. Keep it up and it may stick in the minds of voters.

    Except as we all know from 2016, the polls only exist to keep desperate data analysts in work, they have no real value.

    But wait. Trump is constantly telling us how great his poll numbers are with republicans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,161 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Another day , another drop in polling from his favourite pollster

    If a 2 point increase is a "Surge" what is a 5 point drop?

    Proof that the deepstate is out to get him? Proof that the Obamas are to blame? Proof that the lefties are trying to undermine him? Proof that Biden supporters can read polls correctly? Etc etc. 🙂


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    Biker79 wrote: »
    Rubbish.

    Choose an outcome - say, Trump is being hamered in the polls. Its quite newsworthy. Then, design a few polls with this outcome in mind and... Ta-da - Trump is now falling behind in the polls. Keep it up and it may stick in the minds of voters.

    Except as we all know from 2016, the polls only exist to keep desperate data analysts in work, they have no real value.

    As already pointed out, Trump was within the margin of error in 2020. So it was not a polling or statistical blunder. Entirely different this time around, also they're not fixing polls...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 925 ✭✭✭ollkiller


    Biker79 wrote: »
    Men who aren't masculine, tend to react negatively to traditionally masculine men. There is some evolutionary psychology at play here.

    This is the key takeaway from observing Trumps detractors. Along with how readily some people will sell their souls to the reds under the bed.

    Christ you're deluded. A traditionally masculine male has some muscles for starters. He's a fat oaf. Masculine men don't wear make up or fake tan which El Trumpo wears in abundance. The dressing rooms I shared with gaelic and soccer players were masculine. El Trumpo would have been laughed out of the place.

    And there's definitely no evolutionary psychology at play here. Just someone posting utter nonsense. I have to say there's clutching at straws but you've even surpassed that.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,785 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Biker79 wrote: »
    Rubbish.

    Choose an outcome - say, Trump is being hamered in the polls. Its quite newsworthy. Then, design a few polls with this outcome in mind and... Ta-da - Trump is now falling behind in the polls. Keep it up and it may stick in the minds of voters.

    Except as we all know from 2016, the polls only exist to keep desperate data analysts in work, they have no real value.

    The polling company is Rasmussen - Trumps favourite pollster - He tweeted their poll results just last week. Thanking everyone for him reaching 51% last Friday/Saturday.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1296461160502505472

    They are in fact the ONLY pollster that he tweets about - Although only when they show him blipping above 50%.


    Immediately after this tweet , the very next daily poll from them showed a drop and it has continued to drop ever since.

    Now - Daily polling is sort of meaningless really as it is by it's nature very volatile , the weekly or monthly trends are far more interesting.

    And what that shows is that even with a very GOP friendly pollster , Trump has not averaged above 50% for his entire Presidency.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Loved the fireworks:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,687 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    For some reason, #2 Son Eric showed up at a FEMA meeting. I guess being a Trump means, do whatever the fcuk you want, wherever the fcuk you want to. Or, maybe was waiting for Daddy. Glad to know security's not an issue for these meetings.

    https://www.indy100.com/article/eric-trump-fema-meeting-hurricane-laura-9693381


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Democrats better stop supporting lawlessness and calling the protests peaceful as otherwise the man they so despise will be serving another four years. They should have been supporting him all along and calling for an end to the mindless violence but they chose to speak around it thereby endorsing it. Hopefully the American public will remember that in November and not choose to elect someone who clearly has no regard for the safety of Americans and will for sure just enable the radical left to keep up with their attacks on the fabric of Western society.


    https://twitter.com/PplsCityCouncil/status/1299232424698675200

    These people are dangerous and need to be stopped. Career politicians like Biden getting into power would do even more damage than Obama's tenure did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Democrats better stop supporting lawlessness and calling the protests peaceful as otherwise the man they so despise will be serving another four years. They should have been supporting him all along and calling for an end to the mindless violence but they chose to speak around it thereby endorsing it. Hopefully the American public will remember that in November and not choose to elect someone who clearly has no regard for the safety of Americans and will for sure just enable the radical left to keep up with their attacks on the fabric of Western society. These people are dangerous and need to be stopped and career politicians like Biden getting into power would do even more damage than Obama's tenure did.



    https://twitter.com/PplsCityCouncil/status/1299232424698675200

    Perhaps you haven't actually been listening to Joe Biden:

    https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1298697722304888833?s=20


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    I expect Pete will applaud the condemnation of violence and highlighting the focus of the protest.... Not...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,363 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Democrats better stop supporting lawlessness and calling the protests peaceful as otherwise the man they so despise will be serving another four years. They should have been supporting him all along and calling for an end to the mindless violence but they chose to speak around it thereby endorsing it. Hopefully the American public will remember that in November and not choose to elect someone who clearly has no regard for the safety of Americans and will for sure just enable the radical left to keep up with their attacks on the fabric of Western society.


    https://twitter.com/PplsCityCouncil/status/1299232424698675200

    These people are dangerous and need to be stopped. Career politicians like Biden getting into power would do even more damage than Obama's tenure did.
    You could say the exact same about Daddy re covid 19

    180,000 :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    You could say the exact same about Daddy re covid 19

    180,000 :(

    The same guy who is silent when Russians attack our troops.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,363 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Overheal wrote: »
    The same guy who is silent when Russians attack our troops.
    Donald or Pete?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    Donald or Pete?

    Donald. A user supporting Donald also not bringing up the same is hardly surprising, and in fairness not an obligation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Biker79


    Its interesting that a bit of rough play is interpreted as an ' attack ' . Complete rubbish of course. They all went out for shots of vodka after. Laughing at the desperate media.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Biker79 wrote: »
    Its interesting that a bit of rough play is interpreted as an ' attack ' . Complete rubbish of course. They all went out for shots of vodka after. Laughing at the desperate media.

    So after 4 US soldiers suffered concussions from a deliberate attack by Russian forces, you have evidence, somewhere, that they all went for shots of vodka? I'd love to see that.

    https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1298537924103987200?s=20

    https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1298567787854671874?s=20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,664 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    What’s interesting is that black people protesting about inequality and the risk of being killed by police are vilified but Russians attacking American soldiers is just a bit of rough play.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Biker79


    Concussions?

    Eh...most people call them hangovers. Manly hangovers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    No a concussion is a concussion. Awfully pathetic to downplay something so serious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Contempt Proceedings enacted against SecState Pompeo by the House Foreign Affairs Cmte for defying congressional subpena and giving a political speech in his official capacity at the RNC

    https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/2020/8/engel-announces-contempt-proceedings-against-pompeo
    Bronx, NY—Representative Eliot L. Engel, Chairman of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, today announced that the Committee will begin work on a resolution holding Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in contempt. Chairman Engel made this announcement amid Secretary Pompeo’s ongoing refusal to comply with the Committee’s duly authorized subpoena for records into his transparently political misuse of Department resources. Secretary Pompeo’s most recent actions build on an unprecedented record of obstruction and defiance of the House’s constitutional oversight authority.

    Chairman Engel said, “From Mr. Pompeo’s refusal to cooperate with the impeachment inquiry to his willingness to bolster a Senate Republican-led smear against the President’s political rivals to his speech to the RNC which defied his own guidance and possibly the law, he has demonstrated alarming disregard for the laws and rules governing his own conduct and for the tools the constitution provides to prevent government corruption. He seems to think the office he holds, the Department he runs, the personnel he oversees, and the taxpayer dollars that pay for all of it are there for his personal and political benefit.

    “I gave Mr. Pompeo ample opportunity to fulfill my request for documents, which I first made more than three months ago. These documents were already produced to the Senate, and his refusal to provide them to the Foreign Affairs Committee required that I issue a subpoena on July 31.

    “Mr. Pompeo’s final response makes it clear where he stands: the Department would turn over the documents if the Committee announced that we, too, were pursuing an investigation into the same conspiracy theory that’s been debunked again and again. Mr. Pompeo is demanding that the Committee do essentially the same thing Russia is doing, according the Office of the Director of National Intelligence: ‘spreading claims about corruption’ in order to ‘interfere in the American presidential election.’ In other words, Pompeo will give the Committee what we were seeking if we join in a smear of the President’s political rival. Sound familiar?

    “I want no part of it. Under no circumstances will I amplify Putin’s debunked conspiracy theories or lend them credence. And I won’t stand by and see the Committee or the House treated with such disdain by anyone.”

    The Secretary’s ongoing defiance of two duly authorized subpoenas on matters directly linked to American foreign policy toward Ukraine has left the Committee no further option but to begin drafting a resolution finding Secretary Pompeo in contempt of Congress.

    In September 2019, Chairman Engel issued a subpoena seeking records as part of the impeachment inquiry into President Trump. That inquiry found that, with the assistance of his lawyer Rudy Giuliani, the President abused the power of his office to pressure the Government of Ukraine for his own political gain, leading to the President’s impeachment by the House of Representatives.

    Last month, Chairman Engel issued a subpoena as part of the Committee’s investigation of Pompeo’s partisan misuse of Department resources to aid two Republican-led Senate committees’ smears to undermine the President’s political rival. At Pompeo’s instruction, the Department has produced more than 16,000 pages to the two Senate committees and just last week Department personnel around the world were instructed to gather more information. At the same time, Pompeo has refused to provide this information to the Committee on Foreign Affairs, which has primary jurisdiction over the State Department.

    The Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) recently warned that at least one specific foreign national providing information to the Senators “is spreading claims about corruption – including through publicizing leaked phone calls” in order to boost the President’s reelection bid. Such leaked calls, one of which President Trump recently retweeted, are part of what the ODNI has warned are Russian efforts to interfere in the upcoming U.S. presidential election in support of Donald Trump.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,031 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Biker79 wrote: »
    Concussions?

    Eh...most peole call them hangovers. Manly hangovers.

    Sound like you've had a few too many concussions in your time


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    Anyone else have a suspicion that Trump is gonna bring that the shooter in Wisconsin into his campaign? It would really fit his campaigning logic to date.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Overheal wrote: »
    Perhaps you haven't actually been listening to Joe Biden:

    https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1298697722304888833?s=20

    Biden is a liar who (just like many on the left) race bait for votes.

    This is the same man who said that if a black person votes for Trump they are not black.
    I expect Pete will applaud the condemnation of violence and highlighting the focus of the protest.... Not...

    Violence is not peaceful protesting. You'll get there eventually. Or not.


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    Biden is a liar who (just like many on the left) race bait for votes.

    This is the same man who said that if a black person votes for Trump they are not black.



    Violence is not peaceful protesting. You'll get there eventually. Or not.

    He doesn't race bait. Also he clearly condemned violence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,861 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Biden is a liar who (just like many on the left) race bait for votes.

    This is the same man who said that if a black person votes for Trump they are not black.



    Violence is not peaceful protesting. You'll get there eventually. Or not.

    So in your world, Biden is a liar and can't be believed.

    But Trump, who has told over 20,000 lies is to be believed?

    You claimed the dems are not condemning the riots/violence, There is a video posted above showing Biden doing that yet you choose to ignore it?

    Honestly, the more it looks like Trump is going the lose the more insanely his zealots will post absolute rubbish. It's gonna be a long few weeks as this carry on gets worse and worse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,264 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Biden is a liar

    Trump - 20,000 lies and counting. Strange you never call him a liar.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Biden is a liar who (just like many on the left) race bait for votes.

    Outlaw Pete: 'why aren't the left condeming this?'

    Overheal: 'here is Joe Biden condemning this.'

    Outlaw Pete: '....yeah well he lies about stuff.'

    Seriously what are you trying to argue here? You either condemned the violence or you didn't, and Joe Biden did.


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