Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

stephenjmcd · 28-08-2020 03:58PM

eigrod wrote: »

107 positive swabs from 12,303 tests in last 24 hours. Positivity rate of 0.87%.

https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/pages/hospitals-icu--testing

Increase in testing but positive cases remaining stable last few days. Good to see

boardise · 28-08-2020 03:59PM

Speak Now wrote: »

One to ate

PP going one to six (pack).

mloc123 · 28-08-2020 03:59PM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

I think there’s 128 bottles of beer on the wall.

Take one down, pass it around... 189 bottles of beer on the wall

MOR316 · 28-08-2020 04:00PM

Genuinely think they're taking the piss now at this stage

Why would you even need to go into another lockdown? It achieves absolutely nothing. It's still going to be here

mloc123 · 28-08-2020 04:00PM

is_that_so wrote: »

More like Stephen Donnelly!

All day yesterday Donnelly was out and about talking about how close we are to a national lockdown. Acting CMO in the press conference said we are nowhere close to needing one... is there any communication?

AlmightyCushion · 28-08-2020 04:01PM

AdamD wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0828/1161895-excess-mortality-figures/

So our excess mortality is actually 850 - 900 now

Could be due to lag in reporting of deaths. You have up to 3 months to report a death here. Not all people who died in June and July would be reported yet (whether they died of covid or not). So, we can only properly calculate excess mortality from 3+ months ago.

Edit: I presumed the figures were based on official death notices but it is actually based on RIP.ie death notices. The CSO did an analysis on their figures and determined they were accurate so looks like the figure in the article is pretty accurate.

From the article:

The CSO analysis involved an examination of all the death notices published on RIP.ie rather than official death registry figures. This is because the average length of time between the date of death and publication of a death notice on RIP.ie is just 1.1 days compared with the statutory time limit of three months for the official registration of deaths in the State.

Eight weeks ago the CSO published an analysis of the accuracy of the RIP.ie data and found a correlation of more than 99% between RIP.ie death notices and the official death registry data which is published much later. It concluded that RIP.ie can be used to accurately measure trends in mortality.

JP100 · 28-08-2020 04:01PM

I'm only here for the beer!

ExMachina1000 · 28-08-2020 04:01PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Ill eat my shoes live on youtube if we go into national lockdown

Il eat your socks right there beside you

Busi_Girl08 · 28-08-2020 04:01PM

mloc123 wrote: »

All day yesterday Donnelly was out and about talking about how close we are to a national lockdown. Acting CMO in the press conference said we are nowhere close to needing one... is there any communication?

Donnelly is just using the threat of a lockdown to deflect and avoid having to answer any question set to him.

Drumpot · 28-08-2020 04:01PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://twitter.com/paulreiddublin/status/1299358503543492610?s=21

I wish the school reopening plans were as efficient and proactive as the plan to manage the inevitable rise in cases from said reopening .... :pac:

boardise · 28-08-2020 04:02PM

Speak Now wrote: »

One to ate

PP now going one to six (pack)

28-08-2020 04:03PM

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Could be due to lag in reporting of deaths. You have up to 3 months to report a death here. Not all people who died in June and July would be reported yet (whether they died of covid or not). So, we can only properly calculate excess mortality from 3+ months ago.

Or fewer people died in July than expected. This is from the CSO - it says they used RIP.ie rather than the death registry so perhaps that avoids the lag?

Funsterdelux · 28-08-2020 04:03PM

Mental Mickey wrote: »

Are the rumours I'm hearing about a possible nationwide lockdown returning true?

Can I play the piano anymore?

Always_Running · 28-08-2020 04:03PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Must be more private testing coming thru if yourdeadwright is on the ball again

Doesn't it add up without private testing included?

Last 48hrs

Tests conducted = 24577
Positive swabs = 236
Cases = 221

MOR316 · 28-08-2020 04:04PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Ill eat my shoes live on youtube if we go into national lockdown

I'll **** in my shoes if we go into another lockdown...

Actually, I'll **** in someone else's shoes

SeaBreezes · 28-08-2020 04:04PM

xabi wrote: »

Come on now.

No. Im sick to death of the minimising of this bug.

I know three people who had it.

One is dead. He had underlying conditions.
Second, just had a nasty flu in march and is back in hospital with covid19 complications. (50s fit before this)

Third just a flu, for a week in April but still fighting deep fatigue and had to take a break from work. (30s fit)

And science article after science article is warning us of the hidden dangers. But no, we have to learn the hard way every fricking time.

What does it take for us to change? Do we HAVE to witness our friends/neighbours struggling for health before we cop on? Cause its way way too late then.

We are better than this and smarter than this, if we treat the bug with the caution it deserves. We can do better.

Come on now.

ACitizenErased · 28-08-2020 04:04PM

Always_Running wrote: »

Doesn't it add up without private testing included?

Last 48hrs

Tests conducted = 24577
Positive swabs = 236
Cases = 221

Oh very well, small backlog from yesterday so

Funsterdelux · 28-08-2020 04:05PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Ill eat my shoes live on youtube if we go into national lockdown

Shoe size?

Natural or synthetic?

Velcro or laces?

wadacrack · 28-08-2020 04:06PM

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1299362114373648385

Busi_Girl08 · 28-08-2020 04:06PM

"There were 1,445 confirmed cases of the virus associated with the 28 meat or poultry factory outbreaks, 35 of whom were hospitalised and none of whom died.

In addition, there were 57 cases associated with the 13 other food processing outbreaks, five of whom were hospitalised and one person died."

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/one-death-as-a-result-of-covid-19-outbreak-at-food-plant-39486058.html

AlmightyCushion · 28-08-2020 04:08PM

AdamD wrote: »

Or fewer people died in July than expected. This is from the CSO - it says they used RIP.ie rather than the death registry so perhaps that avoids the lag?

I read the article but didn't read the whole thing. It's not actually based on death notices as I presumed, it is based on RIP.ie death notices and given their analysis of RIP.ie figures it looks like it should be pretty accurate.

The CSO analysis involved an examination of all the death notices published on RIP.ie rather than official death registry figures. This is because the average length of time between the date of death and publication of a death notice on RIP.ie is just 1.1 days compared with the statutory time limit of three months for the official registration of deaths in the State.

Eight weeks ago the CSO published an analysis of the accuracy of the RIP.ie data and found a correlation of more than 99% between RIP.ie death notices and the official death registry data which is published much later. It concluded that RIP.ie can be used to accurately measure trends in mortality.

political analyst · 28-08-2020 04:09PM

SeaBreezes wrote: »

No. Im sick to death of the minimising of this bug.

I know three people who had it.

One is dead. He had underlying conditions.
Second, just had a nasty flu in march and is back in hospital with covid19 complications. (50s fit before this)

Third just a flu, for a week in April but still fighting deep fatigue and had to take a break from work. (30s fit)

And science article after science article is warning us of the hidden dangers. But no, we have to learn the hard way every fricking time.

What does it take for us to change? Do we HAVE to witness our friends/neighbours struggling for health before we cop on? Cause its way way too late then.

We are better than this and smarter than this, if we treat the bug with the caution it deserves. We can do better.

Come on now.

Those deaths are tragic but fatalities constitute a very small proportion of those people who have caught the virus - including those who had it and recovered without ever knowing they had it.

Covid is much less likely to kill than SARS ever was but some people react as if it was as horrific as the bubonic plague.

ACitizenErased · 28-08-2020 04:09PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Shoe size?

Natural or synthetic?

Velcro or laces?

10, no idea, and I will include velcro for texture

wadacrack · 28-08-2020 04:11PM

https://twitter.com/GabrielScally/status/1299363215097434112

boardise · 28-08-2020 04:14PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Shoe size?

Natural or synthetic?

Velcro or laces?

black to start -probably brown after.

JDD · 28-08-2020 04:14PM

SeaBreezes wrote: »

No. Im sick to death of the minimising of this bug.

I know three people who had it.

One is dead. He had underlying conditions.
Second, just had a nasty flu in march and is back in hospital with covid19 complications. (50s fit before this)

Third just a flu, for a week in April but still fighting deep fatigue and had to take a break from work. (30s fit)

And science article after science article is warning us of the hidden dangers. But no, we have to learn the hard way every fricking time.

What does it take for us to change? Do we HAVE to witness our friends/neighbours struggling for health before we cop on? Cause its way way too late then.

We are better than this and smarter than this, if we treat the bug with the caution it deserves. We can do better.

Come on now.

We can often overestimate the risk of something when it occurs to someone close to us.

And we can often underestimate the risk when we've seen no evidence of it. It's human nature.

I also know three people who have had positive tests over the past five months. All in their 40's, two in Ireland and one in the UK. None had underlying conditions. All had a hard time recovering from it but recover they did, apart from one who still has to occasionally take an inhaler and still feels the fatigue, but then she's a stay at home mum to five children so I guess she didn't get much time to rest or recover.

Just because my friends recovered does it mean I am underestimating potential complications from this virus. But national policy cannot be set on anecdotal evidence. The facts are that the vast majority of people who contract this virus recover without complications. Of course complications could show up in a year, or ten years, but that is a remote possibility and must be treated as such.

is_that_so · 28-08-2020 04:15PM

mloc123 wrote: »

All day yesterday Donnelly was out and about talking about how close we are to a national lockdown. Acting CMO in the press conference said we are nowhere close to needing one... is there any communication?

I think they are all working off the same script but Donnelly likes a bit of drama to scare people whereas Harris just repeated whatever CMO/NPHET said. It was easier back then too, horrible but easier because it was all lockdown.

political analyst · 28-08-2020 04:16PM

is_that_so wrote: »

I think they are all working off the same script but Donnelly likes a bit of drama to scare people whereas Harris just repeated whatever CMO/NPHET said. It was easier back then too, horrible but easier because it was all lockdown.

Donnelly's statement is especially disappointing. I thought he'd be more level-headed than his predecessor.

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caveat emptor · 28-08-2020 04:17PM

SeaBreezes wrote: »

No. Im sick to death of the minimising of this bug.

I know three people who had it.

One is dead. He had underlying conditions.
Second, just had a nasty flu in march and is back in hospital with covid19 complications. (50s fit before this)

Third just a flu, for a week in April but still fighting deep fatigue and had to take a break from work. (30s fit)

And science article after science article is warning us of the hidden dangers. But no, we have to learn the hard way every fricking time.

What does it take for us to change? Do we HAVE to witness our friends/neighbours struggling for health before we cop on? Cause its way way too late then.

We are better than this and smarter than this, if we treat the bug with the caution it deserves. We can do better.

Come on now.

Sorry to hear that. At the start of this I knew noone, I now know of several who've had it. China is certainly making hay with this virus. It's exposing the frailties in the western system while making them look good. Whether it is a 'natural' or derived virus doesn't matter because the result is the same. Takes time for evidence to emerge.

That's why the word is called PREcaution not POSTcaution.

https://twitter.com/_8353366099111/status/1241354121468313601?s=20

political analyst · 28-08-2020 04:20PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Sorry to hear that. At the start of this I knew noone, I now know of several who've had it. China is certainly making hay with this virus. It's exposing the frailties in the western system while making them look good. Whether it is a 'natural' or derived virus doesn't matter because the result is the same. Takes time for evidence to emerge.

That's why the word is called PREcaution not POSTcaution.

https://twitter.com/_8353366099111/status/1241354121468313601?s=20

The fatality rate - when you take into account those who were only slightly ill and recovered and never told a doctor - is probably 0.6%.

I don't see why Ireland and Britain should become like East Asia, to be honest.

Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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