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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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  • #4172
    jamule
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭jamule


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Team Trump accept the nomination together at the RNC. A massive (socially distanced) crowd cheered them on with chants of "four more years, four more years!" Melania wore green, a symbol of hope & the Presidents speech was full of hope for the future.


    Z9bLUQ7.jpg

    Full video here:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0cAUTIiLAA
    was it prerecorded?


  • #4173
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    dwayneshintzy wrote: »
    There's literally no evidence whatsoever to back up Joe Biden having lost sense of his faculties

    Just to be clear, there is nowhere in my post where I suggested Joe was losing his faculties.
    dwayneshintzy wrote: »
    How is Biden not "strong enough" in your view, Kidchameleon?

    It is more so that Trump is too strong for him. Trump will do his usual going off in tangents, insulting Joe and looking like he is coming out on top. No matter how ready Joe is with facts, no matter how "presidential" Joe looks, the average American will see Trump as the winner.

    Yes, there is no evidence that the democrats will replace him, I simply strongly suspect its going to happen.


  • #4174
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    jamule wrote: »
    was it prerecorded?


    Unlike Joe's acceptance speech which could easily have been (nobody else in the room etc.) Trumps acceptance speech was attended by a large crowd, had fireworks displays, musical performances. I encourage you to watch the video and see for yourself.


  • #4175
    Injuryprone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭Injuryprone


    I really don't get this narrative that if you elect Joe Biden, you'll get all this violence and rioting in every city in the country. Surely the exact opposite is the case.

    Since the minute he's been elected, DT has done nothing but sow the seeds of division and hate. He has done nothing to unite people or show any compassion for people of differing views to try and bring them along with his vision of America. This disenfranchisement has culminated in his opponents taking to the streets which has resulted in violence.

    Another 4 years of this policy and the riots on the streets of the US is only going to get worse, not better.

    These people on the streets rioting are not Biden supporters, rather they're Trump haters. Some might say what's the difference, but I think there is a difference.

    Actually, to be fair to him, the fact that DT is managing to deflect the responsibility for the riots on his opponent is no mean feat and shows a real talent IMO. The fact that the democrat leadership is so weak and disjointed also helps I suppose


  • #4176
    Gerry Hatrick
    Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Unlike Joe's acceptance speech which could easily have been (nobody else in the room etc.) Trumps acceptance speech was attended by a large crowd, had fireworks displays, musical performances. I encourage you to watch the video and see for yourself.

    I'm going to say it. It was an impressive speech. Americana will like that compared to Bidens low energy approach.


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  • #4177
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Injuryprone wrote: »

    These people on the streets rioting are not Biden supporters, rather they're Trump haters. Some might say what's the difference, but I think there is a difference.

    The people on the streets rioting in America at the moment are violent anti-intellectual low lifes. They have no class. They are hysterical and criminal fools. Defacing public property. Invading shops. Forcing people via mob rule to raise their fists to support "BLM". Pillaging and looting under the guise of a "rights" movement. And the Democrats have been soft on them. Right from the Summer of Love crap. Pictures from public plazas in the US now look disgraceful. These people are within the Democrats electorate. If Republican allied mobs were doing what the supposed left are doing now people would be rightly horrified.

    Spend 7 minutes listening to this guy speak on it. I am with him. These rioters and their global supporters are classless purposeless idiots.

    https://twitter.com/mrctv/status/1297707698788728832?s=19


  • #4178
    jamule
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭jamule


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Unlike Joe's acceptance speech which could easily have been (nobody else in the room etc.) Trumps acceptance speech was attended by a large crowd, had fireworks displays, musical performances. I encourage you to watch the video and see for yourself.

    have you proof it was live? It was v low key, he was like an old dottery man who forgot the last 4 yrs. I think he may have issues. why did he have a robot dressed as a porn star with him, v odd choice. the fireworks were amazing.


  • #4179
    dwayneshintzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    Gruffalox wrote: »
    The people on the streets rioting in America at the moment are violent anti-intellectual low lifes. They have no class. They are hysterical and criminal fools. Defacing public property. Invading shops. Forcing people via mob rule to raise their fists to support "BLM". Pillaging and looting under the guise of a "rights" movement. And the Democrats have been soft on them. Right from the Summer of Love crap. Pictures from public plazas in the US now look disgraceful. These people are within the Democrats electorate. If Republican allied mobs were doing what the supposed left are doing now people would be rightly horrified.

    Spend 7 minutes listening to this guy speak on it. I am with him. These rioters and their global supporters are classless purposeless idiots.

    https://twitter.com/mrctv/status/1297707698788728832?s=19
    So it's your view that social justice protests since as far back as (at least) 1967 are unjustified?


    What do you think of Martin Luther King Jr. and the civil rights movement, Gruffalox?


  • #4180
    extra gravy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,262 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Unlike Joe's acceptance speech which could easily have been (nobody else in the room etc.) Trumps acceptance speech was attended by a large crowd, had fireworks displays, musical performances. I encourage you to watch the video and see for yourself.

    Only simpletons would be impressed by fireworks and musical performances. All show and no substance as usual


  • #4181
    [Deleted User]
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    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Unlike Joe's acceptance speech which could easily have been (nobody else in the room etc.) Trumps acceptance speech was attended by a large crowd, had fireworks displays, musical performances. I encourage you to watch the video and see for yourself.

    It wasn't socially distanced based on these images, what you've described is incredibly inappropriate behaviour during a global pandemic. It's not a time to be celebrating.

    https://twitter.com/Yamiche/status/1299118395615477761?s=19


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  • #4182
    duploelabs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,031 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Unlike Joe's acceptance speech which could easily have been (nobody else in the room etc.) Trumps acceptance speech was attended by a large crowd, had fireworks displays, musical performances. I encourage you to watch the video and see for yourself.
    As you've been corrected before...
    No one else in the room, apart from the camera crew and dozens of reporters.

    Parroting what Rush say isn't doing you any favours, best fact check first

    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/aug/24/rush-limbaugh/joe-biden-gave-his-convention-speech-live-rush-lim/


  • #4183
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    jamule wrote: »
    why did he have a robot dressed as a porn star with him, v odd choice. the fireworks were amazing.

    Did not see speech. Will not be seeing speech. Don't know who the person you refer to as a robot dressed like porn star is or what they were wearing.
    BUT I am presuming it is a WOMAN you are refering to - and sounding very much like a disparaging priest while refering to her. In other areas you are probably a feminist ally who says I believe her, but when it comes to a political divide you will call out a woman on the wrong team as bad as any slack-jawed redneck misogynist would.


  • #4184
    extra gravy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,262 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Fat Lives Matter wrote: »
    The same WHO who defends China? C'mon man!

    The same WHO that employs educated experienced scientists as opposed to the anti science moron in the White House.


  • #4185
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,462 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Team Trump accept the nomination together at the RNC. A massive (socially distanced) crowd cheered them on with chants of "four more years, four more years!" Melania wore green, a symbol of hope & the Presidents speech was full of hope for the future.


    Socially distant??? You're having some laugh in fairness.

    .


  • #4186
    extra gravy
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    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Socially distant??? You're having some laugh in fairness.

    .

    Then wipes his hand on her arm. Disgusting.


  • #4187
    jamule
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭jamule


    Gruffalox wrote: »
    Did not see speech. Will not be seeing speech. Don't know who the person you refer to as a robot dressed like porn star is or what they were wearing.
    BUT I am presuming it is a WOMAN you are refering to - and sounding very much like a disparaging priest while refering to her. In other areas you are probably a feminist ally who says I believe her, but when it comes to a political divide you will call out a woman on the wrong team as bad as any slack-jawed redneck misogynist would.

    it was a woman? wow. next your going to tell me it was a foreigner, Trump would never hire a foreigner to be his wife.


  • #4188
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    jamule wrote: »
    it was a woman? wow. next your going to tell me it was a foreigner, Trump would never hire a foreigner to be his wife.

    Oh I see. That is the level I am dealing with.

    For what it is worth Melania is gorgeous, and seems sweet. She generally looks fantastic. She has come in for constant marauding by the left leaning side of things for everything from her clothes, past nudes (priestly horror again), her Christmas decorations to her Rose Garden renovations. As someone who would never vote for someone like Trump - or Biden either, shudders!!- I have thought Melania has great taste and an aesthetic eye and did a grand old job on the previously kitschy rose garden. The persistent deranged mauling of her has been revealing.


  • #4189
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,932 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Gruffalox wrote: »
    Oh I see. That is the level I am dealing with.

    For what it is worth Melania is gorgeous, and seems sweet. She generally looks fantastic. She has come in for constant marauding by the left leaning side of things for everything from her clothes, past nudes (priestly horror again), her Christmas decorations to her Rose Garden renovations. As someone who would never vote for someone like Trump - or Biden either, shudders!!- I have thought Melania has great taste and an aesthetic eye and did a grand old job on the previously kitschy rose garden. The persistent deranged mauling of her has been revealing.

    yeah, right


  • #4190
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,462 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Gerry Hatrick wrote: »
    I'm going to say it. It was an impressive speech. Americana will like that compared to Bidens low energy approach.

    Easily impressed aren't we. Basically Trump's & the RNC message was: things are really terrible in many parts of the country and I couldn't do anything to solve those problems in the last 4 years but give me 4 more years anyway because none of the problems are my fault. But if you elect Biden all those things will get worse (even though they've happened under my watch). It was basically 1 hour and 10 minutes of that circular nonsense.


  • #4191
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,780 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Gerry Hatrick wrote: »
    I'm going to say it. It was an impressive speech. Americana will like that compared to Bidens low energy approach.

    You seem to be in a definite minority there.

    The general consensus was that it was a low energy delivery that went on far too long.

    Fox News on Trumps Speech -
    • "Surprised by the lack of Fireworks"
    • "Surprising Flat"
    • "Lacking Excitement"
    • "Went on far too long"
    • "I have to say in his delivery, I thought the president—who we have seen really turn on a crowd—was surprisingly flat and didn’t seem to have the bite that he usually does have in his speeches"
    • “The speech was very, very long. I don’t know that any speech that is an hour and ten minutes uninterrupted by anything visual can work very well.”

    Fox News on Bidens Speech -
    • "Joe Biden hit a Home run"
    • "Enormously Effective Speech"
    • "He Knocked it out of the Park"
    • "Blew a hole in the narrative of him being a candidate in decline"
    • “I thought Biden had the moment of his life, and he ought to feel really good about that.”
    • "It was so authentic to who Biden is, and … it caught the mood of the country, which is unity, steady, competence, ‘We can rise above this’."


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  • #4192
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    yeah, right

    I believe her ;) You saying you don't? Tut tut tut


  • #4193
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    dwayneshintzy wrote: »
    So it's your view that social justice protests since as far back as (at least) 1967 are unjustified?


    What do you think of Martin Luther King Jr. and the civil rights movement, Gruffalox?

    Democratic Mayor of Seattle Jennifer Durkan described the occupation of CHAZ/CHOP as a potential Summer of Love. If she had to clean up the humungous mess after the fools had pillaged whole areas or tend to the rape and gunshot victims of her loving freedom fighters she might have said otherwise


  • #4194
    Cody montana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Easily impressed aren't we. Basically Trump's & the RNC message was: things are really terrible in many parts of the country and I couldn't do anything to solve those problems in the last 4 years but give me 4 more years anyway because none of the problems are my fault. But if you elect Biden all those things will get worse (even though they've happened under my watch). It was basically 1 hour and 10 minutes of that circular nonsense.

    “Let me fix the mess I created”


  • #4195
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,462 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    You seem to be in a definite minority there.

    The general consensus was that it was a low energy delivery that went on far too long.

    It was certainly very low energy from Trump and an extremely long, boring speech full of lies. By the end he was leaning over and gripping onto the lectern a lot. Not a great look.


  • #4196
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,932 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    It was certainly very low energy from Trump and an extremely long, boring speech full of lies. By the end he was leaning over and gripping onto the lectern a lot. Not a great look.

    the adderall was wearing off


  • #4197
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    It was certainly very low energy from Trump and an extremely long, boring speech full of lies. By the end he was leaning over and gripping onto the lectern a lot. Not a great look.

    Mental note, make sure no lecterns at debates.


  • #4198
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,932 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Mental note, make sure no lecterns at debates.

    every time he gives a speech behind a lecturn he holds on to it for dear life.


  • #4199
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Gruffalox wrote: »
    Oh I see. That is the level I am dealing with.

    For what it is worth Melania is gorgeous, and seems sweet. She generally looks fantastic. She has come in for constant marauding by the left leaning side of things for everything from her clothes, past nudes (priestly horror again), her Christmas decorations to her Rose Garden renovations. As someone who would never vote for someone like Trump - or Biden either, shudders!!- I have thought Melania has great taste and an aesthetic eye and did a grand old job on the previously kitschy rose garden. The persistent deranged mauling of her has been revealing.


    She was spreading the same racist birther shíte as her husband. She's trash. Expensive trash but still trash.


  • #4200
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Gruffalox wrote: »
    Oh I see. That is the level I am dealing with.

    For what it is worth Melania is gorgeous, and seems sweet. She generally looks fantastic. She has come in for constant marauding by the left leaning side of things for everything from her clothes, past nudes (priestly horror again), her Christmas decorations to her Rose Garden renovations. As someone who would never vote for someone like Trump - or Biden either, shudders!!- I have thought Melania has great taste and an aesthetic eye and did a grand old job on the previously kitschy rose garden. The persistent deranged mauling of her has been revealing.

    Post pics or it didn't happen.


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  • #4201
    baaba maal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 772 ✭✭✭baaba maal


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    From a global point of view, it's a good thing for America not to over react to these events.

    By "over react", do you mean "react"?


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