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Opinion on billionaires.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,822 ✭✭✭Archeron


    They make good shortbread


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    It costs € 63,450 a day to park a yacht in Monte Carlo.

    No discounts and subject to availability.

    http://www.portbooker.com/en/moorings/monaco/principality-of-monaco/fontvieille/port-of-fontvieille

    Good luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,746 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Stan27 wrote:
    Musk worth 100B Bezos worth 200B.


    Behind every great wealth, is a great theft!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Behind every great wealth, is a great theft!

    What did they steal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,199 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    It costs € 63,450 a day to park a yacht in Monte Carlo.

    No discounts and subject to availability.

    http://www.portbooker.com/en/moorings/monaco/principality-of-monaco/fontvieille/port-of-fontvieille

    Good luck

    That is the cost of a breakfast for the majority of billionaires anyway with waiters and so on on board that yacht of course lol.

    Anyway who would want to associate with these moneyed morons anyway.

    There is only so much money that you can spend, says I looking at boiler replacement (needed) a new kitchen after twenty years (needed) and so on.

    Can pay for everything without borrowing, so fk the billionaires now. LOL

    The Simple enough life is good enough for me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,909 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    It costs € 63,450 a day to park a yacht in Monte Carlo.

    No discounts and subject to availability.

    http://www.portbooker.com/en/moorings/monaco/principality-of-monaco/fontvieille/port-of-fontvieille

    Good luck

    Fontvieille is only a second division harbour.

    Where are you getting that figure?

    A berth in the main harbour during the Grand Prix doesn't cost that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭mick087


    The staff get a salary for their work don't they?


    The staff Create the wealth the owner controls the wealth the staff deserve a high cut of the profits from the wealth they have created.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 TokenJester


    I like them

    I'm biased I'm married to one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,746 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Ipso wrote:
    What did they steal?


    Amazon makes little or no money from its delivery service, so its a monopoly in that sector, preventing competitors from well, existing. It lives off the back of public policies that continually increase its value of its assets, particularly it's stock price, of which it shares very little, publicly. Tesla has received billions in public money over the years, so a large proportion of it really should be under public ownership at this stage, same story as amazon as well, regarding stock prices, and you can be damn sure, if either company looks like folding, they ll be bailed out, with public money, again!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,746 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    mick087 wrote:
    The staff Create the wealth the owner controls the wealth the staff deserve a high cut of the profits from the wealth they have created.


    All staff from both amazon and tesla should receive an extra bonus of stock options


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,199 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    I don't envy them their fortune, it is what they do with it regarding their employees that is important to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 548 ✭✭✭JasonStatham


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    It costs € 63,450 a day to park a yacht in Monte Carlo.

    No discounts and subject to availability.

    http://www.portbooker.com/en/moorings/monaco/principality-of-monaco/fontvieille/port-of-fontvieille

    Good luck

    That's almost as bad as on street parking in Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    They work hard, most of the really rich ones are obsessive about getting shít done..

    Even if you worked 18 hours a day, 7 days a week 365 days a year for 70 years, you’d have to earn 2,180 an hour to get to a billion. And that’s before taxes or anything else, and not to mention the people who are worth many multiples of that. Is anyone’s work really worth 2,180 an hour, at a sustained rate? Is getting shït done in e-commerce or luxury vehicles worth that money? If we’re not paying the people who do really heroic, meaningful stuff anywhere near that kind of money, should anybody be worth that?

    I’ve no problem with people being rewarded for hard work, but there has to come a point where the money just doesn’t matter any more, and amassing the wealth just becomes obscene, and indicative of a major problem in the system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    I admire them and equally pity them

    Business is no 1 everything else comes second

    Relationships kids etc suffer

    And no amount of wealth can get that time back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭mick087


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    All staff from both amazon and tesla should receive an extra bonus of stock options


    Yes that would be an excellent idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,386 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    mick087 wrote: »
    The staff Create the wealth the owner controls the wealth the staff deserve a high cut of the profits from the wealth they have created.

    That’s a bit simplistic

    The key staff will get options and make a lot of money but the warehouse workers aren’t creating the wealth, it’s the concept that creates the wealth . The majority of the workers are easily and quickly replaceable .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 548 ✭✭✭JasonStatham


    Neutral view. I'd love to know what Jeff Bezos thinks of his fortune...does he just look at it and go, fcuk, SO much money. Haha.

    I think if I had billions, Id give a lot of it away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    mick087 wrote: »
    The staff Create the wealth the owner controls the wealth the staff deserve a high cut of the profits from the wealth they have created.

    thats a pure political statement

    the owner created the company , without him , the staff would likely be working in some other job

    im not saying amazon employees are not underpaid , they probably are but they dont and didnt create the wealth

    its like saying the people who work in a factory bottling antibiotics today deserve as much credit as alexander fleming , the inventor of penicilin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    It's a competition to see who can die with the most stuff.

    I know plenty of very wealthy people. You would be surprised how many of them seem to envy the lives of certain average everyday people. The biggest thing that always shocks me, is how bored many of them seem to be. Having vast amounts of wealth can make you very isolated from others.

    Yes, but they tend to be empty people to begin with.

    Nobody has any real excuse to be bored, it's up to you how you fill your time productively. That goes for billionaires too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,584 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Stan27 wrote: »
    Musk worth 100B
    Bezos worth 200B.

    Fair play to them, but prob should pay more taxes.
    Global Inequality is a big problem.

    What are your opinions?
    According to a 2017 Oxfam report, the top eight richest billionaires own as much combined wealth as "half the human race".

    I don't mean in like a lets purge them way but ....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,584 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    its like saying the people who work in a factory bottling antibiotics today deserve as much credit as alexander fleming , the inventor of penicilin
    They do.
    Could you have penicillin without key workers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,584 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    If you are going to do it ..do it soros style.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭mick087


    Cyrus wrote: »
    That’s a bit simplistic

    The key staff will get options and make a lot of money but the warehouse workers aren’t creating the wealth, it’s the concept that creates the wealth . The majority of the workers are easily and quickly replaceable .

    All staff are key staff.

    Without the warehouse staff who would work in the warehouse.
    The majority of the workers are easily and quickly replaceable because some employers are allowed to get away with this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    Cyrus wrote: »
    That’s a bit simplistic

    The key staff will get options and make a lot of money but the warehouse workers aren’t creating the wealth, it’s the concept that creates the wealth . The majority of the workers are easily and quickly replaceable .

    That's the way of the world but that doesn't mean it's a good thing. The low paid workers that are there are still part of the wealth creation.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    That is the cost of a breakfast for the majority of billionaires anyway with waiters and so on on board that yacht of course lol.

    Anyway who would want to associate with these moneyed morons anyway.

    There is only so much money that you can spend, says I looking at boiler replacement (needed) a new kitchen after twenty years (needed) and so on.

    Can pay for everything without borrowing, so fk the billionaires now. LOL

    The Simple enough life is good enough for me.

    Your spot on Spanish. Fair play. Like making toast on a stick over a turf fire.

    These moneyed morons are not flutes however. They know what side they want their toast buttered on for starters. Personnel chefs, yacht pilots, overpriced dolly birds, it all adds up.

    I find the yachts with the chopper pads are really just taking the piss. Who needs a yacht and a chopper? Nonsense.

    I would rather hitchhike to the Highland Games with Gemma Hayes, she could sing for our supper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭mick087


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    thats a pure political statement

    the owner created the company , without him , the staff would likely be working in some other job

    im not saying amazon employees are not underpaid , they probably are but they dont and didnt create the wealth

    its like saying the people who work in a factory bottling antibiotics today deserve as much credit as alexander fleming , the inventor of penicilin


    Without the staff the employer is likey to have no business.

    Yes staff do create the wealth and the owner then controls the wealth. No staff no wealth.

    All people in no matter what job they do should surely be as valued as anyone else in any other job.

    Alexander Fleming does deserve the recognition for what he brought to mankind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,584 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    mick087 wrote: »
    All staff are key staff.
    Not true. Some jobs are kind of useless.

    My Dad's first job was to push the button for people on a lift.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,840 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    mick087 wrote: »
    All staff are key staff.

    No. No they are not.

    If you are unable to see the point being made then it is probably not worth writing it in crayon for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,584 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    They live on another planet and rarely have contact with normal humans. Its why they seem so odd. They don't seem to have much personality. I guess you don't need one if you are rich. They seem boring and odd. Bit awkward.

    We can't imagine how the 10% live. Its another world. It's why Paris Hilton seems so alien to us. We kind of laugh at them ....but really they are just different and probably normal for where they come from.

    Cultural diffs and shocks etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,853 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    I think Bill Gates is a really good guy. The foundation he set up to help combat disease in Africa is something he had no obligation to do.

    I'm utterly applaud by the amount of people, usually stereotypical socialists that talk about him as if he were pure scum.

    He would get less criticism he never engaged in philanthropic work at all. Go figure, as the Americans say.


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