Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

Onesea · 26-08-2020 05:24PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Talk of a new lockdown and then at the same time opening up the schools, doesn't make a single bit of sense.

There will be no more lockdowns.

MOR316 · 26-08-2020 05:24PM

hmmm wrote: »

A national lockdown doesn't stop people having house parties, or inviting all their relatives over for a birthday party. It just ends up punishing the responsible people, while the irresponsible carry on regardless.

I've a simple solution - fine a property owner if they are discovered with more than the allowed number of people in their home.

Not possible.

If six is the limit and I have 8, I can easily hide them somewhere. Who will check it? The Gardaí? Will they be arsed coming into someone's home and checking the wardrobes and sheds for stowaways? Would any one of us put up with that?

Oranage2 · 26-08-2020 05:27PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Well he kind of has to worry, another lockdown with another vast reduction in economic output coupled with increased social welfare costs all = less money for health.

Not sure how some dont understand a worse off economy means a worse off health system. That's the point he's making.

Its been as good as said there won't be another lockdown, Donnelly seems to love mentioning it

We'll continue to get loans with low interest rates that will be burned off through inflation, you might see a euro less in you pay packet nothing to worry about.

stephenjmcd · 26-08-2020 05:27PM

hmmm wrote: »

The problem is not that it is illegal, the government can change that quickly..

No they can't change it easily hence why its with the AG and has been described as difficult given that its a constitutional issue.

hmmm · 26-08-2020 05:27PM

MOR316 wrote: »

If six is the limit and I have 8, I can easily hide them somewhere. Who will check it? The Gardaí? Will they be arsed coming into someone's home and checking the wardrobes and sheds for stowaways? Would any one of us put up with that?

The Guards aren't going to be going around shining lights in windows. It's pretty obvious where the house parties are being held.

If the alternative is a lockdown because we refuse to enforce the existing rules, we'll have to look at ways to avoid this being required.

hmmm · 26-08-2020 05:28PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

No they can't change it easily hence why its with the AG and has been described as difficult given that its a constitutional issue.

There are very broad public health laws available to the government. It's also difficult to see the Supreme Court wanting to get on the wrong side here.

stephenjmcd · 26-08-2020 05:29PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

We'll continue to get loans with low interest rates that will be burned off through inflation, you might see a euro less in you pay packet nothing to worry about.

Ah yes the good old free money which won't be free forever.

Really the solution is to keep borrowing? You know that can't go on indefinitely and this was said by the governor of the central bank

GazzaL · 26-08-2020 05:30PM

MOR316 wrote: »

Not possible.

If six is the limit and I have 8, I can easily hide them somewhere. Who will check it? The Gardaí? Will they be arsed coming into someone's home and checking the wardrobes and sheds for stowaways? Would any one of us put up with that?

Some people were watching The Book Thief on tv last night and think the Gardaí will be going down every street in Ireland raiding people's homes.

MOR316 · 26-08-2020 05:31PM

hmmm wrote: »

The Guards aren't going to be going around shining lights in windows. It's pretty obvious where the house parties are being held.

I really don't think it is

Unless they're been held in meat factories and DP centers

I could easily have people over right now for drinks and no one would be any wiser.

Onesea · 26-08-2020 05:32PM

Longing wrote: »

Whats up with Spain lately. 7296 cases today highest number since March.

Its almost like they more tests they perform the more cases the uncover....

Searching for the pandemic..

Low hospital admissions is good all the same.

stephenjmcd · 26-08-2020 05:33PM

hmmm wrote: »

There are very broad public health laws available to the government. It's also difficult to see the Supreme Court wanting to get on the wrong side here.

public health laws are no good when it becomes a constitutional issue and that's what this boils down to.

Supreme Court go with whatever side is constitutional

GazzaL · 26-08-2020 05:33PM

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

Extremely worrying alright.

I'm worried for Gerry too, have been every time I've seen him pontificate.

ACitizenErased · 26-08-2020 05:34PM

The chair questioning Donnellys lockdown rhetoric with only 22 in hospital

Onesea · 26-08-2020 05:34PM

hmmm wrote: »

The Guards aren't going to be going around shining lights in windows. It's pretty obvious where the house parties are being held.

If the alternative is a lockdown because we refuse to enforce the existing rules, we'll have to look at ways to avoid this being required.

The gaurds won't go to the obvious house party locations. They are scared of their life of most of them.

Oranage2 · 26-08-2020 05:34PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Ah yes the good old free money which won't be free forever.

Really the solution is to keep borrowing? You know that can't go on indefinitely and this was said by the governor of the central bank

Borrow until this is over, you do realize that the country can't just up stick and runaway, the banks know we're good for it. Give it a few more months and we'll be back in our feet, an extra euro here and there from your paycheck isn't going to hurt you.

Arghus · 26-08-2020 05:34PM

I don't think a national lockdown is likely, even probable, but, equally, nobody here has a crystal ball and can predict the events of even two weeks ahead of today, let alone events of 6 weeks/three months from now. We have no idea what throwing the schools into the mix is going to have, just best guesses, predictions and hopes.

Saying such a thing or this other thing definitely won't happen displays a naive confidence in your ability to predict the future, especially after a 6 month period that's made a mockery of the predictability of life in general.

Stop pretending, none of us have a clue.

MD1990 · 26-08-2020 05:35PM

Some don't think it is possible to have another lockdown.

Are you forgetting that Kildare,laois & Offaly had a partial lockdown with not that many cases.

We are now heading into the winter months.
What do you think will happen if we get 500+ or even 1000s of cases a day & no hospital beds are available.

Economy will collapse anyway if we have no lockdown & 10's of thousands not able to go into to work through being sick,showing symptoms & being close contacts.

Some in here are not thinking logically at all.
Not saying there will be a lockdown(I hope not) but certaintly you cant rule it out.

Funsterdelux · 26-08-2020 05:35PM

Its almost like the old and vunerable are minding themselves and adhering to cop on.

boggerman1 · 26-08-2020 05:35PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The chair questioning Donnellys lockdown rhetoric with only 22 in hospital

Wouldn’t worry about Donnelly.as he was describing in the paper at the weekend he’s a “bull****ter” as described by a senior civil servant

stephenjmcd · 26-08-2020 05:35PM

MOR316 wrote: »

I really don't think it is

Unless they're been held in meat factories and DP centers

I could easily have people over right now for drinks and no one would be any wiser.

I know of 1 person that reproted a house beside them last weekend for having a few people in it.

4 hours later a squad car turned up and just asked them to keep the noise down.

One of my own friends is a Garda and he said himself it'll be bottom of the list of calls

ACitizenErased · 26-08-2020 05:36PM

The chair is having none of donnelly here

Chaos Black · 26-08-2020 05:38PM

Out of curiosity, if you're on lets say a bus and some old lad is hacking up a lung with no as attempt to cover it, is it rude to tell them to get f'ed (politely as possible)?

stephenjmcd · 26-08-2020 05:40PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The chair is having none of donnelly here

He's talking out his arse.

We've probably detected over half the cases the country has had.
Have we fcuk

Atlantic Dawn · 26-08-2020 05:40PM

Chair of Oireachtas Committe asking Donnelly now what in the jaysus is he thinking of a lockdown about when back in March/April we had
over 1000 in hospital and over 100 in ICU, we now have 22 in hospital and 5 in ICU.

ACitizenErased · 26-08-2020 05:42PM

He’s talking out of his backside here, theres a lot of asymptomatic cases now

stephenjmcd · 26-08-2020 05:43PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Chair of Oireachtas Committe asking Donnelly now what in the jaysus is he thinking of a lockdown about when back in March/April we had
over 1000 in hospital and over 100 in ICU, we now have 22 in hospital and 5 in ICU.

His reply was a rambling of non sense to which the chair challenged and got back more non sense

drunkmonkey · 26-08-2020 05:45PM

s1ippy wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gakt6PPHQFY

Donnelly should be pulled up on the lies he just sprouted about masks I hope there's a journalist watching that and was watching when Hennigan spoke. He did definitely not say they do no harm, he said the opposite and pointed to evidence in the UK and to the studied that have been done.
A rotten dirty liar is all he is, needs to go.

stephenjmcd · 26-08-2020 05:45PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

He’s talking out of his backside here, theres a lot of asymptomatic cases now

He's after trying to say that the HSE anti body study portays that we've picked up just over half the cases the country has had.

Utter crap

spookwoman · 26-08-2020 05:45PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Chair of Oireachtas Committe asking Donnelly now what in the jaysus is he thinking of a lockdown about when back in March/April we had
over 1000 in hospital and over 100 in ICU, we now have 22 in hospital and 5 in ICU.

26 in hospital and 5 in icu, hub numbers.

Funsterdelux · 26-08-2020 05:45PM

Has he mentioned the trampoline yet?

Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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