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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭jamule


    Biker79 wrote: »
    I know I've come across this before...

    http://wondermark.com/1k62/

    I take it the manual doesn't actually list anything. I presume its just bullet points of key words and phrases just like trumpists policy docs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,101 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Biker79 wrote: »
    I know I've come across this before...

    http://wondermark.com/1k62/

    Is it a true republican value to answer all questions with a dumb meme?

    That seems the only answer you are able provide to any question?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,462 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Pam Bondi spoke at the RNC last night. Amongst other things she accused Joe Biden of nepotism in relation to Hunter Biden..... nepotism. Her speech was followed by Tiffany Trump, Eric Trump and Melania Trump. Last night Donald Trump Jnr spoke and tomorrow White House special adviser Ivanka Trump will speak. It's the classic, accuse the other side of that which you are guilty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,055 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    namloc1980 wrote:
    Pam Bondi spoke at the RNC last night. Amongst other things she accused Joe Biden of nepotism in relation to Hunter Biden..... nepotism. Her speech was followed by Tiffany Trump, Eric Trump and Melania Trump. Last night Donald Trump Jnr spoke and tomorrow White House special adviser Ivanka Trump will speak. It's the classic, accuse the other side of that which you are guilty.


    Maybe all the trumps aren't related, or something, we shouldn't judge!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    This one particularly stands out to me. Sickening.

    Lets not forget, she also slept her way up the political ladder:

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/kamala-harris-launched-political-career-with-120k-patronage-job-from-boyfriend-willie-brown

    Kamala Harris’ first significant political role was an appointment by her powerful then-boyfriend Willie Brown, three decades her senior, to a California medical board...

    Then 30, Harris was dating 60-year-old Willie Brown, at the time the Democratic speaker of the California State Assembly, when he placed her on the California Medical Assistance Commission...

    Harris had no medical background, according to a copy of her resume that she submitted to Brown at the time...

    Granlund said the appointment seemed brazen at the time because of the relationship between Harris and Brown. “Screwing the speaker has its rewards,” he said. “Stevie Wonder could have seen through that play.”

    Brown recently acknowledged in an op-ed for the San Francisco Chronicle that he “may have influenced” Harris’s career...
    So a strong independent woman comes out in favor of Trump (and we certainly need more strong women) yet straight away the slut shaming and commenting on her appearance starts, shameful.
    So which is it?


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,782 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    So you make a claim and when people ask you to explain your claim you decide to post a silly meme instead? In the time its take you to twice avoid answering the question you could have told us what these values are. Why are you avoiding answering the question?

    Because to list these nebulous "values" (of which I apparently have none) would subject them to scrutiny and comparison to the words,deeds and action of the Trump administration and the GOP.

    That scrutiny & comparison would not end well for either Trump or the GOP , so better to leave them unstated so that any examples of nefarious behaviours (of a multitude readily available) by these supposed bastions of moral rectitude can be batted away with "No , not those values obviously but other, more important ones that I shall not mention"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,661 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    So which is it?

    I honestly don’t know why people engage with that poster. His lack of self awareness is phenomenal.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,782 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Fact check.

    Did Trumps approval ratings surge during Bidens convention.

    https://twitter.com/Rasmussen_Poll/status/1296535891763179522

    :)


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Whilst it is true that he increased in the Rasmussen daily Presidential approval poll in the last day or so, I'd hardly call a 2 point increase a "Surge".

    He was at the same level about 10 days ago and dropped back sharply.

    Given it's a daily poll it's fairly volatile

    Will Trump tweet in a day or two when it dips again??


    The same pollster runs a more detailed weekly Election poll and Biden still leads by 4 points in the head to head

    Oh dear - 1st day of the RNC and his favourite poll dips , or should I say "Collapses" given that a 2 point increase was called a "surge" surely a two point drop after the first day of his convention counts as a collapse??.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    salmocab wrote: »
    I honestly don’t know why people engage with that poster. His lack of self awareness is phenomenal.

    I think it’s deliberate or else he’s a genuine trump supporter. 😀


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    The Democrats are going to have to decide which side they on in this latest BLM round of violence. American's are quickly becoming tired of the bloodshed and mob rule and if the democratic governor continues to ignore help from the white house at suppressing the violence it will cost the Biden dearly come election day.

    These thugs are setting fire to the businesses of innocent people and are doing great harm to the BLM movement.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    The Democrats are going to have to decide which side they on in this latest BLM round of violence. American's are quickly becoming tired of the bloodshed and mob rule and if the democratic governor continues to ignore help from the white house at suppressing the violence it will cost the Biden dearly come election day.

    These thugs are setting fire to the businesses of innocent people and are doing great harm to the BLM movement.
    Are you American? What are you basing this statement on?


    I'd dispute your premise that there is widespread bloodshed and mob rule.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭Irishman80


    Are you American? What are you basing this statement on?


    I'd dispute your premise that there is widespread bloodshed and mob rule.

    They're burning a small city to the ground in Wisconsin at the moment. Multiple people shot there last night.

    A swing district in a swing state that the Democrats looked to have sewn up 2 months ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Biker79


    As Trump says, he will wait until after the election before dealing with Antifa\ BLM
    It was a very risky move forn the Democrats - desperate even - to get into bed with the commies. But they did and they'll have to pay that price.

    Their strategy as been very clear: ratchet up the mayhem until the government cracks down. Then they can say ' look we said all along he was fascist ' .

    It's beginning to backfire now. And good riddance.

    My guess is that this wont be the last episode of mayhem before November..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,055 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Biker79 wrote: »
    As Trump says, he will wait until after the election before dealing with Antifa\ BLM
    It was a very risky move forn the Democrats - desperate even - to get into bed with the commies. But they did and they'll have to pay that price.

    Their strategy as been very clear: ratchet up the mayhem until the government cracks down. Then they can say ' look we said all along he was fascist ' .

    It's beginning to backfire now. And good riddance.

    My guess is that this wont be the last episode of mayhem before November..

    trump will go into hiding when he loses, as he ll be getting summons galore for court appearances, antifa and blm wont be on his mind at all

    what commies do you speak of, who are they?

    oh trump will throw every toy out of the pram before November alright


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭jamule


    Biden will wait until after the election before dealing with Antifa\ BLM
    It was a very risky move forn the Republicans- desperate even - to get into bed with the commies. But they did and they'll have to pay that price.

    Their strategy as been very clear: ratchet up the mayhem until the government cracks down. Then they can say ' look we said all along he was fascist ' .

    It's beginning to backfire now. And good riddance.

    My guess is that this wont be the last episode of mayhem before November..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭Irishman80


    Biker79 wrote: »
    As Trump says, he will wait until after the election before dealing with Antifa\ BLM
    It was a very risky move forn the Democrats - desperate even - to get into bed with the commies. But they did and they'll have to pay that price.

    Their strategy as been very clear: ratchet up the mayhem until the government cracks down. Then they can say ' look we said all along he was fascist ' .

    It's beginning to backfire now. And good riddance.

    My guess is that this wont be the last episode of mayhem before November..

    Terrible strategy from the Democrats getting into bed with groups over which they have very little control.

    Every business destroyed and person harmed is going to be put into ads by the Republicans and beamed into homes across the US.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Man ends up paralysed as a result of further misbehaving by the Police and that's how the Trump supporters read it... Incredibly callous tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Irishman80 wrote: »
    Terrible strategy from the Democrats getting into bed with groups over which they have very little control.

    Every business destroyed and person harmed is going to be put into ads by the Republicans and beamed into homes across the US.

    Is this not happening under trumps watch?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭randd1


    salmocab wrote: »
    I honestly don’t know why people engage with that poster. His lack of self awareness is phenomenal.

    He's very self aware, mostly because it's pretty clear he's on a wind-up. No-one sane would actually believe the crap he spouts (except maybe the dumber republican set in the US deep south).

    Either that, or he's genuinely crazy. And as the saying goes, you can reason with a sane person, but you can't reason with a crazy person.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,782 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Man ends up paralysed as a result of further misbehaving by the Police and that's how the Trump supporters read it... Incredibly callous tbh.

    Is it really surprising?

    57% of Republicans think that the Covid-19 Death toll is "acceptable"
    Over the weekend, CBS News released a poll conducted by YouGov looking broadly at the presidential contest. It included a number of questions about the coronavirus pandemic — understandably, since the pandemic is the primary driver of the presidential contest.

    Among the more remarkable results? About 3 in 10 Americans think the number of deaths from the coronavirus so far is acceptable. That includes 1 in 10 Democrats and a majority of Republicans.

    It's a parallel universe.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭Irishman80


    Is this not happening under trumps watch?

    No. It's happening under a Democrat Mayor's watch and a Democrat Govenor's watch who actually control the police departments in their State.

    And its BLM, a Democrat supported group, who are burning the businesses to the ground.

    It's terrible optics for the Dems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Irishman80 wrote: »
    No. It's happening under a Democrat Mayor's watch and a Democrat Govenor's watch who actually control the police departments in their State.

    And its BLM, a Democrat supported group, who are burning the businesses to the ground.

    It's terrible optics for the Dems.

    So trump is not in charge of the country?
    Interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,101 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


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    Maybe one could be called a classy lady. Rita was at least consistent :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,396 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    Irishman80 wrote: »
    No. It's happening under a Democrat Mayor's watch and a Democrat Govenor's watch who actually control the police departments in their State.

    And its BLM, a Democrat supported group, who are burning the businesses to the ground.

    It's terrible optics for the Dems.

    What's going on in the US is the equivalent of our Taoiseach coming out and saying that each county can do whatever they want regarding the virus. For a coherent response, even in a federalised system, you need central leadership. A strong message from the top counts for a lot.

    Trump has provided zero leadership. Nothing other than mixed messages on every single area, constant lies and a total lack of empathy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭Irishman80


    So trump is not in charge of the country?
    Interesting.

    Nothing interesting about it. He has no control over City or State police. The US is a federal republic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,462 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Irishman80 wrote: »
    Nothing interesting about it. He has no control over City or State police. The US is a federal republic.

    So you're saying it doesn't really matter who's in the White House on this issue. So why is Trump and the RNC banging on about how terrible the country will be under Biden and that chaos and violence will rule. I mean if it's nothing to do with the President as you state.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭Irishman80


    PropJoe10 wrote: »
    What's going on in the US is the equivalent of our Taoiseach coming out and saying that each county can do whatever they want regarding the virus. For a coherent response, even in a federalised system, you need central leadership. A strong message from the top counts for a lot.

    Trump has provided zero leadership. Nothing other than mixed messages on every single area, constant lies and a total lack of empathy.

    He has offered to provide the National Guard. Even there, the Governor's have power in that they can call up the NG without the President and can refuse the offer of the NG from the President.

    The President can only override the Governor by invoking the Insurrection Act - which is a losing policy for the President.

    So the Democrats own the riots now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,462 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    57% of Republicans think that the Covid-19 Death toll is "acceptable"

    The pro-life people :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Irishman80 wrote: »
    Nothing interesting about it. He has no control over City or State police. The US is a federal republic.

    So what difference will it make if Biden is elected?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭randd1


    Is this not happening under trumps watch?

    It's all Obama's fault, because Clinton is a child trafficker who likes pizza and Biden is a drooling mess, and the democrats have decided that America is to become a province of China who are going to take away Jesus and Guns and hamburgers, and let all the ISIS commies and Mexican rapists drug lords come and give everyone swine flu because Hollywood and the media are trying to convince people The Wall doesn't exist even though The Donald and Jared Kusher and Ivanka built it with their bare hands with the help of every black person in America because no-one did more for blacks that Trump, and the Deep State is behind it all to make Trump look bad by poisoning 180,000 people with chemicals from planes flown by Obama and Oprah with the media saying it's the coronavirus even though it's actually a Chinese flu used by the democrats and BLM to take over America, and make Trump look bad because he wins so bigly, and is a peace president that has America's economy roaring and their debt cut to nothing, so it's just jealous democrats trying destroy America, and Trump takes no responsibility for it because his presidency is being attacked because no-one understand how awesome a businessman he is and how he's saving America from the media, except Fox & Friends.

    Or something like that. The Q-Anon conspiracy (or Trump Administration Policy to give it it's official title) has gotten so convoluted it's hard to keep up.


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