FF/FG/Green Next Government

smurgen · 26-08-2020 07:58AM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Good auld hunger strike could sort it all out.

Let’s bring back the black flags and the misery.

Dirty protest could be a good move too.

Nice look mocking those that took extreme action due to desperation.

smurgen · 26-08-2020 07:59AM

blanch152 wrote: »

When and where did I say I had no problem with the privacy of individuals being violated?

So you think Simon Harris was wrong to post this?

https://twitter.com/SimonHarrisTD/status/1294929138625716224?s=08

Brendan Bendar · 26-08-2020 08:02AM

smurgen wrote: »

Nice look mocking those that took extreme action due to desperation.

It’s about as relevant as the post it is a reply to, buddy.

McMurphy · 26-08-2020 08:06AM

blanch152 wrote: »

Neither am I, in fact I am delighted that Hogan came clean on his exact move,ents, now is the time for the funeral goers to do the same.

Strange that - because I've asked you on no less than half a dozen times about funerals and you keep avoiding the question.

Let's try again shall we.

Do you believe some politician's from Sinn Fein should retire or face the sack because they were seen to be flouting social distancing guidelines at times during Bobby Storey's funeral, and if so do you also then think that some members of AGS and FG politicians such as Charlie Flanagan and Michael Ring should be sacked or forced to resign for doing the exact same thing, and if not why not?

Mighty odd you won't nail your colours to the mast on that one, this will be the beginning of yet another day where you'll ignore the question.

McMurphy · 26-08-2020 08:12AM

blanch152 wrote: »

Have to say I don’t get it. You have previously claimed to be a neutral, but unlike posters like me, you are defending some politicians that broke the Covid guidelines. For example, do you follow the example of McMurphy and say that the lowly councillor from Monaghan who went to Lanzarote did nothing wrong, or do you believe, like me, she should have the party whip removed?

Where did I say that, that's a blatant lie.

blanch152 · 26-08-2020 08:57AM

McMurphy wrote: »

Where did I say that, that's a blatant lie.

Easy way is for you to clear this up, by saying what should happen that councillor.

McMurphy · 26-08-2020 09:07AM

blanch152 wrote: »

Easy way is for you to clear this up, by saying what should happen that councillor.

The easy way for me to clear up you telling a blatant lie is for me now to say what should happen? Yeah right, that's not how it works on here and you dam well know it.

Prove were I said she did nothing wrong......quote me please.

Also, you may have missed this post.......

McMurphy wrote: »

Strange that - because I've asked you on no less than half a dozen times about funerals and you keep avoiding the question.

Let's try again shall we.

Do you believe some politician's from Sinn Fein should retire or face the sack because they were seen to be flouting social distancing guidelines at times during Bobby Storey's funeral, and if so do you also then think that some members of AGS and FG politicians such as Charlie Flanagan and Michael Ring should be sacked or forced to resign for doing the exact same thing, and if not why not?

When you're ready please.

Mighty odd you won't nail your colours to the mast on that one, this will be the beginning of yet another day where you'll ignore the question.

As I was saying.

Hawthorn Tree · 26-08-2020 09:15AM

Does anyone know when the Dail will restart? MM said just after the schools return but I have not seen a date.
Those first few sessions should be a blast.

FrancieBrady · 26-08-2020 09:23AM

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

Does anyone know when the Dail will restart? MM said just after the schools return but I have not seen a date.
Those first few sessions should be a blast.

Think I heard this Thursday week.

Hawthorn Tree · 26-08-2020 09:26AM

Green Blanch152, you must be delighted that your leader made a statement alongside MM and Leo today? Finally some input from the Green Party. It said Phil clearly breached public health guidelines. Strangely there was no mention of Sinn Fein or any funerals. Odd really.

Floppybits · 26-08-2020 09:28AM

McMurphy wrote: »

Strange that - because I've asked you on no less than half a dozen times about funerals and you keep avoiding the question.

Let's try again shall we.

Do you believe some politician's from Sinn Fein should retire or face the sack because they were seen to be flouting social distancing guidelines at times during Bobby Storey's funeral, and if so do you also then think that some members of AGS and FG politicians such as Charlie Flanagan and Michael Ring should be sacked or forced to resign for doing the exact same thing, and if not why not?

Why won't people like Blanch answer this question? Why do they keep avoiding it? For me it is pretty simple, either they all go or they don't its that simple. The virus doesn't decide I will infect all those at a SF funeral but I won't infect those at a Garda funeral. Both funerals and those attending both funerals should have respected the social distancing regulations that were in place. Simple as that.

McMurphy · 26-08-2020 09:44AM

Floppybits wrote: »

Why won't people like Blanch answer this question? Why do they keep avoiding it? For me it is pretty simple, either they all go or they don't its that simple. The virus doesn't decide I will infect all those at a SF funeral but I won't infect those at a Garda funeral. Both funerals and those attending both funerals should have respected the social distancing regulations that were in place. Simple as that.

Because in their topsy turvy green world - it is easy to accuse the people who are simply demanding everyone is treated equally as the "hypocrite".

Bishop of hope · 26-08-2020 09:48AM

Floppybits wrote: »

Why won't people like Blanch answer this question? Why do they keep avoiding it? For me it is pretty simple, either they all go or they don't its that simple. The virus doesn't decide I will infect all those at a SF funeral but I won't infect those at a Garda funeral. Both funerals and those attending both funerals should have respected the social distancing regulations that were in place. Simple as that.

Anyone in politics leading the fight against the corona virus and agreeing on the guidelines set down and found to breach them should at least be accountable for all their actions that go against the advice they are trying to push on others.
They all need to consider their positions if they breach them.
That's the fairest answer I can give on that.
Opinions will vary on those breaches and of course one will be used to counter the other depending on political preference.
My opinion is that they all who broke guidelines are as insensitive as the other.
But SF as a party, wholly broke and encouraged the breaking of the guidelines for a political event be it a funeral or not, it was a political demonstration of SF unity if you like, but totally wrong in the context of when it took place.
The funeral OK, the parade through the streets to a graveyard for a political rally of eulogies for a man who was going to be taken elsewhere after for a cremation was totally unnecessary and dangerous in the context of the time it took place.
That SF apologised but admitted no wrong on that is absurd to me.
At least the other party's acknowledged their wrongs mostly.
I'm dubious about Flannigan and Ring, but if they broke guidelines then they should have to account for that too.
But again that was individual breach if it was a breach.
It certainly wasn't used as a political Rally.

Rows Grower · 26-08-2020 09:51AM

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

Green Blanch152, you must be delighted that your leader made a statement alongside MM and Leo today? Finally some input from the Green Party. It said Phil clearly breached public health guidelines. Strangely there was no mention of Sinn Fein or any funerals. Odd really.

I think the penny has finally dropped for them and they know how utterly ridiculous they are coming across trying to deflect from their own s*it show by pointing the finger of blame at Sinn Fein everytime they themselves f*ck up.

Too late though, this latest debacle will hurt them dearly at the next election which might not be too far away.

FrancieBrady · 26-08-2020 09:54AM

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Anyone in politics leading the fight against the corona virus and agreeing on the guidelines set down and found to breach them should at least be accountable for all their actions that go against the advice they are trying to push on others.
They all need to consider their positions if they breach them.
That's the fairest answer I can give on that.
Opinions will vary on those breaches and of course one will be used to counter the other depending on political preference.
My opinion is that they all who broke guidelines are as insensitive as the other.
But SF as a party, wholly broke and encouraged the breaking of the guidelines for a political event be it a funeral or not, it was a political demonstration of SF unity if you like, but totally wrong in the context of when it took place.
The funeral OK, the parade through the streets to a graveyard for a political rally of eulogies for a man who was going to be taken elsewhere after for a cremation was totally unnecessary and dangerous in the context of the time it took place.
That SF apologised but admitted no wrong on that is absurd to me.
At least the other party's acknowledged their wrongs mostly.
I'm dubious about Flannigan and Ring, but if they broke guidelines then they should have to account for that too.
But again that was individual breach if it was a breach.

Way beyond Covid issues now. This is a FG member and political appointment and a FG appointed judge in open defiance of their government.

Hogan is most definitely saying that he is more powerful and important than the state.

Hawthorn Tree · 26-08-2020 09:56AM

Rows Grower wrote: »

I think the penny has finally dropped for them and they know how utterly ridiculous they are coming across trying to deflect from their own s*it show by pointing the finger of blame at Sinn Fein everytime they themselves f*ck up.

Too late though, this latest debacle will hurt them dearly at the next election which might not be too far away.

Yeah it's actually pathetic. We cannot improve the Irish political system if every time FFG do something wrong, their loyal supporters wont admit it and instead point to other SF wrongs. It's a pointless circle jerk of 1 wrong by SF makes wrongs by FFG right or allowed. The blinkers being shown on this thread towards the Clifden Elite is staggering. Tip the cap.

I know I know, I can only be a Shinnerbot. It's the only logical conclusion.

Bishop of hope · 26-08-2020 09:58AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Way beyond Covid issues now. This is a FG member and political appointment and a FG appointed judge in open defiance of their government.

Hogan is most definitely saying that he is more powerful and important than the state.

That's your take on it, fair enough.
They have all paid a price for it, even Hogan whether he survives or not his credibility is shot.

Hawthorn Tree · 26-08-2020 09:59AM

https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1298537457621913600?s=19

eggy81 · 26-08-2020 10:01AM

blanch152 wrote: »

As opposed to a funeral for criminal thugs and psychopaths?

ultimately they are 1 and the same come eviction time.

McMurphy · 26-08-2020 10:20AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Way beyond Covid issues now. This is a FG member and political appointment and a FG appointed judge in open defiance of their government.

Hogan is most definitely saying that he is more powerful and important than the state.

Here he is also saying that the guards should ignore instances the law being broke depending if you are from a certain position of power from the "ruling elite" it's all going Pete Tong, up there with Maria Bailey interview tomfoolery.

https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1298537457621913600?s=19

eggy81 · 26-08-2020 10:45AM

Unbelievable really. I suppose when you have made it to the level of European commissioner you are immune to the power of distraction that the mobile phone apparently has on the norms of society while driving and pose no risk to yourself or anyone else using the roads. Probably didn't have a vehicle with Bluetooth in it anyway.

What a sack of sh1t

BonnieSituation · 26-08-2020 11:05AM

blanch152 wrote: »

As opposed to a funeral for criminal thugs and psychopaths?

Did I wander into the SF omerta thread or the have SF disappeared thread again?

blanch152 · 26-08-2020 11:12AM

Floppybits wrote: »

Why won't people like Blanch answer this question? Why do they keep avoiding it? For me it is pretty simple, either they all go or they don't its that simple. The virus doesn't decide I will infect all those at a SF funeral but I won't infect those at a Garda funeral. Both funerals and those attending both funerals should have respected the social distancing regulations that were in place. Simple as that.

For a start, as has been pointed out, the Storey funeral was a fake funeral, he wasn't buried, it was a political rally dressed up as a fake funeral. Secondly, as has been confirmed by Belfast City Council, the "funeral" was in breach of the regulations and had a direct effect on other funerals due to take place that day. Thirdly, it was an ordinary funeral, not a State funeral.

Three reasons why it was different. In the same way, why could people work in nursing homes, essential retail, meat factories and hospitals during the lockdown, while lads in Monaghan weren't allowed build walls in their back garden with their mates? Them's the rules, the regulations, the guidelines, that's why.

Hawthorn Tree · 26-08-2020 11:13AM

blanch152 wrote: »

For a start, as has been pointed out, the Storey funeral was a fake funeral, he wasn't buried, it was a political rally dressed up as a fake funeral. Secondly, as has been confirmed by Belfast City Council, the "funeral" was in breach of the regulations and had a direct effect on other funerals due to take place that day. Thirdly, it was an ordinary funeral, not a State funeral.

Three reasons why it was different. In the same way, why could people work in nursing homes, essential retail, meat factories and hospitals during the lockdown, while lads in Monaghan weren't allowed build walls in their back garden with their mates? Them's the rules, the regulations, the guidelines, that's why.

You really are fuming over this Clifden Elite party. You cant even mention it!

McMurphy · 26-08-2020 11:16AM

Blanch, when anyone mentions the similarities with FG ministers and members of AGS flouting social distancing guidelines at a funeral, and the shinners flouting the same guideline's at a funeral.

Big elephant in the room for him.

blanch152 · 26-08-2020 11:17AM

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Did I wander into the SF omerta thread or the have SF disappeared thread again?

Those threads are deserted while instructions are awaited from Parnell Square as to how to respond to the Martina Anderson bigotry.

Fann Linn · 26-08-2020 11:17AM

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Did I wander into the SF omerta thread or the have SF disappeared thread again?

Just blanch deflecting all over the place. He's been doing almost as much travelling across the SF threads as big Phil did across the country.
Credit where it's due however, great work from a GP member. ðŸ˜‰

McMurphy · 26-08-2020 11:24AM

Fann Linn wrote: »

Just blanch deflecting all over the place. He's been doing almost as much travelling across the SF threads as big Phil did across the country.
Credit where it's due however, great work from a GP member. &#55357;&#56841;

Think Big Phil is a goner by the sounds of commentators on the wireless this morning, with some (Allison O'Connor) saying Woulfe should be next.

BonnieSituation · 26-08-2020 11:29AM

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1298537457621913600?s=19

Tbh, anything Paddy Cosgrave says tends to make me take the contrarian view. Interesting attitude about elites from a man who looks down his nose at non-TCD graduates.

Justice for big Phil!

Floppybits · 26-08-2020 11:35AM

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Tbh, anything Paddy Cosgrave says tends to make me take the contrarian view. Interesting attitude about elites from a man who looks down his nose at non-TCD graduates.

Justice for big Phil!

Paddy can hardly talk after what he was looking for for his tech conferences.

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