Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020

Dcully · 23-08-2020 6:45pm

.G. wrote: »

Did a four hour flight from Dublin to the canaries and ran out of fuel ten minutes from landing. In the assists menu unlimited fuel is set to on though so this must mean something other than what I thought it meant!

I've no idea how to calculate the proper fuel for a flight plan. Any tutorials out there?

I find the assists to be buggy as hell.
For example i have assist feature for auto lights and they never work.

Some day ill be able to this in this sim :P

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1297368867543683083?s=20

Nforce · 23-08-2020 8:34pm

Sim is running well on my old PC (Inrel 17 2600K, 16Gb RAM, GTX1060 and dedicated 1TB SSD)

Here's a quick screenie of the A320 in AL colours overhead Bray ...the closest we'll get to the Bray Air Display this year, unfortunately

https://imgur.com/UojQ0bm

Sterling Archer · 23-08-2020 9:49pm

Possibly of interest to some people here https://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/introduction-to-msfs-sdk-scenery.448469/

Hopefully we start to get some nice fixes, I'd love to get Spanish point tweaked, Shannon and knock fixed

.G. · 23-08-2020 10:09pm

Ciano35 wrote: »

I use simbrief, go to dispatch > dispatch system, > create new flight, put in your flight details, aircraft type etc. and click generate, it'll give you an ideal route and fuel needed etc.

Came across this this morning on a youtube channel. Looks very interesting. I'll have a nose.

Nforce · 24-08-2020 12:42pm

Couple of screenshots of the default Xcub over AMARG. No performance hit, which was surprising....

Dcully · 24-08-2020 9:01pm

Flew realtime from Donegal to Dublin in my DHL skinned light freight delivery type yoke and it got me thinking if the game had some sort of career mode or jobs board something like truck simulator it would be great.

Upon landing in Dublin I started messing around with the drone feature, very cool with live traffic turned on.
I recorded a bit of it I must upload it later.

Conchir · 24-08-2020 9:34pm

Dcully wrote: »

Flew realtime from Donegal to Dublin in my DHL skinned light freight delivery type yoke and it got me thinking if the game had some sort of career mode or jobs board something like truck simulator it would be great.

Upon landing in Dublin I started messing around with the drone feature, very cool with live traffic turned on.
I recorded a bit of it I must upload it later.

I believe there are mods that add some sort of airline functionality, but I haven't looked into them.

.G. · 24-08-2020 10:42pm

If you like the A320neo I recommend this dudes channel. Some good guides on it there for newbies. He fly's them for real when he's not laid off due to covid

https://www.youtube.com/user/filanjix

Conchir · 24-08-2020 11:03pm

The liveries pack posted earlier in the thread has continued to be updated, now up to 100 liveries for different aircraft. I had a look at the Discord server for it earlier and it's not slowing down, there's some really cool stuff being worked on. I'm going to hold off downloading for a few more days as it will keep getting updates it seems. The download link is in the video description.

Conchir · 24-08-2020 11:14pm

And I just saw this posted in that Discord, so holding off another few hours is definitely worth it:

@everyone Here are some details for our next release, the much anticipated Version 7.

The release will drop tomorrow at 8 PM NYC Eastern Time.

It will include over 65 new liveries, bringing our total to above 150. Most of these liveries are for the A320 and 747-8.

I understand that the amount of liveries is getting immense, and some are hard to find. Thus, I am 90% sure there will be a python script included where you can choose exactly which liveries you want and remove the ones you don't. This will be an interim solution until our official installer releases.

The cutoff for livery submissions to Mega Pack Version 7 is in 20 minutes! After 6:30 PM NYC Eastern, no further requests will be accepted.

Get Hyped for Version 7!

The eventual inclusion of an installer will be very handy.

Ciano35 · 25-08-2020 12:03am

Dcully wrote: »

Flew realtime from Donegal to Dublin in my DHL skinned light freight delivery type yoke and it got me thinking if the game had some sort of career mode or jobs board something like truck simulator it would be great.

Have a look at Onair, I used to use it with X-plane and had a lot of fun with it. They’ve added compatibility with MFS and there’s a 14 day free trial too. You can expand your airline and hire AI pilots to work for you. There’s co-op too where you can run your company with a friend.

https://www.onair.company/

Dcully · 25-08-2020 10:38am

Drone fun i mentioned earlier :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-WIbZOXRfk

AirBiscuit · 25-08-2020 3:06pm

Dcully wrote: »

Flew realtime from Donegal to Dublin in my DHL skinned light freight delivery type yoke and it got me thinking if the game had some sort of career mode or jobs board something like truck simulator it would be great.

FSeconomy sounds like something you might like. It's a bit dated looking though, and I'm not sure if they have a MSFS client yet.

Very much like Euro Truck, rent other people's planes to do jobs until you earn enough money to buy a plane for yourself.

Dcully · 25-08-2020 3:06pm

Took off from Renton airfield just outside Seattle and flew over the city then onto Mount Rainer which is 60 miles away from Seattle and clearly visible in the sim from the city :eek:
Gameplay of approach and rounding of Rainer Mountain, really spectacular.
No doubt the experts will spot some rookie flying in the cesna 152,, not even sure if this little plane should be up there

Most assistance off apart from air fuel mixture,auto checklist etc -the boring stuff :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLHYKodtXb0

Samuel T. Cogley · 25-08-2020 3:23pm

The new reverb is 2160 x 2160 PER EYE! I'm really interested to see how they get that badboy working with any sort of non vomit inducing frame rates.

briany · 25-08-2020 3:25pm

Pleasantly surprised to see Newgrange fairly well replicated in the game. I was expecting to see a flat texture in a field.

I know this is finicky in the face of the huge achievement of having the entire world fairly well replicated, but are the developers going to continue making improvements to how the AI renders different structures? Bit disappointing to see Martello towers being represented as circus tents.

AirBiscuit · 25-08-2020 4:44pm

briany wrote: »

Pleasantly surprised to see Newgrange fairly well replicated in the game. I was expecting to see a flat texture in a field.

I know this is finicky in the face of the huge achievement of having the entire world fairly well replicated, but are the developers going to continue making improvements to how the AI renders different structures? Bit disappointing to see Martello towers being represented as circus tents.

The developers of the game might. In an ideal world they'll continue to be funded by Microsoft to work on the game for a long time thanks to continuous Game Pass subscriptions.
The challenge would appear to lie in the scale of the world and the amount of different teams / technologies used in the game.
As things are now, there's nothing to stop a 3rd party developer making a 3D model of a building/landmark, going into the game's developer mode, drawing a shape around the part of the map they don't want default buildings on, then manually placing the model they made in the game. It's one of the easier things to do actually.

.G. · 25-08-2020 4:54pm

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

The new reverb is 2160 x 2160 PER EYE! I'm really interested to see how they get that badboy working with any sort of non vomit inducing frame rates.

I've one on pre order, hoping they nail it somehow

briany · 25-08-2020 5:00pm

AirBiscuit wrote: »

The developers of the game might. In an ideal world they'll continue to be funded by Microsoft to work on the game for a long time thanks to continuous Game Pass subscriptions.
The challenge would appear to lie in the scale of the world and the amount of different teams / technologies used in the game.
As things are now, there's nothing to stop a 3rd party developer making a 3D model of a building/landmark, going into the game's developer mode, drawing a shape around the part of the map they don't want default buildings on, then manually placing the model they made in the game. It's one of the easier things to do actually.

As I understand it, Google own the photogrammetry on their maps, but they don't own the 3d models that populate many urban centres. These are user-created. So, maybe if there was some way to import that 3d data, we'd really be able to take the game up to an even higher notch.

Or have the team continue to craft different default building types. Going back to my example of Martello towers - if you had a generic Martello tower model with an attached code, if Microsoft gets enough notifications that one should exist at in or around a certain geographical point, they could update it, or program the AI to handle it entirely. This may be totally impractical, I don't know, but community crowdsourcing like this would be amazing to add some extra detail.

AirBiscuit · 25-08-2020 5:31pm

briany wrote: »

As I understand it, Google own the photogrammetry on their maps, but they don't own the 3d models that populate many urban centres. These are user-created. So, maybe if there was some way to import that 3d data, we'd really be able to take the game up to an even higher notch.

Or have the team continue to craft different default building types. Going back to my example of Martello towers - if you had a generic Martello tower model with an attached code, if Microsoft gets enough notifications that one should exist at in or around a certain geographical point, they could update it, or program the AI to handle it entirely. This may be totally impractical, I don't know, but community crowdsourcing like this would be amazing to add some extra detail.

The photogrammety is all that's left and it's only in certain cities, the custom made 3D models are gone completely from google maps. Westport is flat now even though it was hand made at one stage, Galway is flat because it isn't important enough to justify photogrammtry, and Dublin is single contigious 3D model generated from multiple aerial angles. Nigh on impossible to get that data off Google now.
Even still, it would be a hassle to find every individual modeller to ask for permission to include their building.
Best bet is an open source collection of models, or to make them yourself.

briany · 26-08-2020 12:51am

Did a fly past of Croagh Patrick today. Absolutely beautiful, but just one tiny thing that can take you a bit out of the simulation yet could be a relatively easy fix - it was something that was in FSX as well - I speak of flying past a mountain peak and seeing on that peak a lone pine tree. A tree practically waving at you to say, "I have no earthly business being here!" :pac:

Samuel T. Cogley · 26-08-2020 9:58am

No matter how bad I am at sim-flying, and I'm really bad, I always remember: At least I'm not as bad as Harrison Ford!

Dcully · 26-08-2020 7:14pm

I know i linked toms hardware guide for fps boost but im seeing even better results from JayzTwoCents guide.
Similar performance but quite a few settings able to stay on ultra for my spec, worth a watch.
My spec is 8600K @4.7ghz - EVGA GTX 1080TI SC [11GB].

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKVhyOZaUcU

Ciano35 · 26-08-2020 7:34pm

Flight Simulator 2020 Is Pretty Realistic!

Samuel T. Cogley · 26-08-2020 8:09pm

I just can't line up with the runway after the final turn on the exercise in the 152. Any tips?

awec · 26-08-2020 10:34pm

Ciano35 wrote: »

Flight Simulator 2020 Is Pretty Realistic!

How do you get all those extra options like requesting baggage etc?

Samuel T. Cogley · 26-08-2020 11:26pm

79GB patch on the way in the next day or so.

Ciano35 · 26-08-2020 11:32pm

awec wrote: »

How do you get all those extra options like requesting baggage etc?

I’m pretty sure they come up when you tune ground services on the atc window, but I think it depends on the airport/gate you’re at too.

AirBiscuit · 27-08-2020 12:31am

A livery for the Viper himself. Would've put a load more images on it but the texture is mirrored left to right so any writing would be on both sides with one side back to front

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0b32rA6xIw

briany · 27-08-2020 1:37am

AirBiscuit wrote: »

A livery for the Viper himself. Would've put a load more images on it but the texture is mirrored left to right so any writing would be on both sides with one side back to front
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0b32rA6xIw

Isn't that feckin' mighty...

Nforce · 28-08-2020 8:31pm

Look what I found in my hangar

:pac:

Psychlops · 28-08-2020 8:41pm

Seriously where are the helicopters!

Nforce · 28-08-2020 9:22pm

Psychlops wrote: »

Seriously where are the helicopters!

I believe that they will be a paid DLC

briany · 28-08-2020 10:24pm

"Have you seen this new game? You can fly around the whole world and it's accurately depicted."

"Shur, I can do that on Google Earth already."

"...true."

Sterling Archer · 29-08-2020 2:14am

Nforce wrote: »

Look what I found in my hangar

:pac:

Oh I've come over all funny, great to see the fsx porting is going well hope they appear as downloads soon

Sterling Archer · 29-08-2020 2:24am

Psychlops wrote: »

Seriously where are the helicopters!

Hate to be the bearer of bad news and I'm desperately waiting on them but it appears it'll be close to a year as they are basically a new SIM, they are building 4-8 and approx 10,000 heliports, activities but it'll be a paid DLC

German interview (in German) where that's basically said that

https://youtu.be/fzNdPRS_MRI
I don't speak German but Reddit did some translate

AirBiscuit · 29-08-2020 3:40am

I don't think I've ever been as frustrated with asset creation for something as much I have for this. I spent twice as long trying to load the model into the game as I did making the model and the textures from scratch.
The SDK's documentation is currently awful. People have made Blender tools which is nice, but the workflow for getting it from blender to the game is a cluster****. Youtube and forum tutorials are pretty bad too

Ciano35 · 29-08-2020 9:32am

AirBiscuit wrote: »

I don't think I've ever been as frustrated with asset creation for something as much I have for this. I spent twice as long trying to load the model into the game as I did making the model and the textures from scratch.
The SDK's documentation is currently awful. People have made Blender tools which is nice, but the workflow for getting it from blender to the game is a cluster****. Youtube and forum tutorials are pretty bad too
https://i.imgur.com/RWjR8QH.png

It really is desperate. I’ve been trying to load an object into the sim for the last week and can’t get it. Not helped by the fact that the sim very frequently crashes on me in dev mode.

briany · 29-08-2020 1:04pm

I'm trying to do a flight following historic Route 66 in the Cessna 152 at the moment. One problem I'm having is that I can't seem to save flight progress. I start off from Chicago and fly for an hour or two, find a little municipal airport to land at, refuel, park up for the night, go to Save>Save as 'Route66.FLT'.

Reload the next day and it just puts me at the airport I originally started out from. This is from a flight plan that is simply a direct VFR from Chicago to Cali. How do I save the flight so that it puts me back exactly where I left off?

Psychlops · 29-08-2020 10:48pm

Lots of teething issues so it would seem, I will stick with XP11 for about a year until most of this is resolved & they have Helicopters.

CJhaughey · 29-08-2020 11:47pm

briany wrote: »

I'm trying to do a flight following historic Route 66 in the Cessna 152 at the moment. One problem I'm having is that I can't seem to save flight progress. I start off from Chicago and fly for an hour or two, find a little municipal airport to land at, refuel, park up for the night, go to Save>Save as 'Route66.FLT'.

Reload the next day and it just puts me at the airport I originally started out from. This is from a flight plan that is simply a direct VFR from Chicago to Cali. How do I save the flight so that it puts me back exactly where I left off?

Have you tried saving in flight?

briany · 30-08-2020 1:54am

CJhaughey wrote: »

Have you tried saving in flight?

No, I land at an airport, park it up and then save. I don't see why the FLT shouldn't put my plane right back in that spot when I go to load the file.

CJhaughey · 30-08-2020 1:17pm

briany wrote: »

No, I land at an airport, park it up and then save. I don't see why the FLT shouldn't put my plane right back in that spot when I go to load the file.

Some of the tutorials I have seen show them saving in flight, just thought it might be a workaround.

Yakult · 30-08-2020 2:41pm

I have been using the save feature plenty (in flight) and have had no issues. So I think saving at the airport could be bugged? Haven't tried saving at an airport midflight but will try later and see!

briany · 30-08-2020 2:50pm

If anyone lands at the Waynesville-St. Robert Regional airport between St. Louis and Springfield, Missouri, and sees a Cessna 152 parked obnoxiously close to the fuel pump, that'll be me.

Samuel T. Cogley · 30-08-2020 3:08pm

Downloaded driver 20.8.3 for my 5700XT and it seems to be behaving a bit better in terms of temps.

DaveyDave · 30-08-2020 4:10pm

I thought the update was out on the 28th, that was just the announcement that it's coming next week?

briany · 30-08-2020 4:53pm

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

79GB patch on the way in the next day or so.

79 GB? Is that a hyperbolic riff on the size of the game's original download size?

STABILITY ISSUES

The title will no longer crash when different input devices/peripherals are disconnected
The title will no longer crash when the TBM 930 package is deleted

INSTALLATION ISSUES

The install process will no longer be blocked after a partial decompression of a package
The install process will no longer be blocked when a local user account includes non-ASCII characters
The install process will no longer be blocked after a failed connection to servers
The install process will no longer display an empty onboarding screen under certain conditions
The title will download a critical missing/deleted package to access the main menu even if the save data preference is set to offline (when an internet connection is available)

CONTENT MANAGER

The title will no longer automatically download packages that have been deleted through the content manager
The content manager will no longer get stuck in an infinite loading state when checked offline
The Creator name of the packages should now be properly updated

SIMCONNECT

Significant FPS drop when using Simconnect should no longer affect the experience

OPTIMIZATION

The performance of the title has been improved when the Display name plate option is set to active

MARKETPLACE

The correct currency is now properly updated in the marketplace

Nothing here that really constitutes a game overhaul. It'll be interesting to see what is included in ongoing updates vs. what the make you pay more for with DLC.

Samuel T. Cogley · 30-08-2020 5:27pm

briany wrote: »

79 GB? Is that a hyperbolic riff on the size of the game's original download size?

Nothing here that really constitutes a game overhaul. It'll be interesting to see what is included in ongoing updates vs. what the make you pay more for with DLC.

It's in the content manager now but not downloading yet.

AirBiscuit · 30-08-2020 5:54pm

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

It's in the content manager now but not downloading yet.

I've seen it in the content manager for days now. Doesn't mean it's nearly ready though.

Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020

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