Minister for Agriculture attends 81-person golf event in breach of health guidelines

maestroamado · 25-08-2020 07:46PM

Rows Grower wrote: »

Speak for yourself, he doesn't represent me or any of the people I know.

He is actually despised by every single person I've listened to when discussing politics.

Well i am not breaking up as you suggest??
If you despise politics whats the point in posting on same...

Rows Grower · 25-08-2020 07:48PM

maestroamado wrote: »

Well i am not breaking up as you suggest??

You're gone again.

(bit of banter, that's all dude.)

Higgins5473 · 25-08-2020 08:45PM

Danzy wrote: »

I'll give a 100 quid to a charity and put the receipt up if he is gone.

There was enough a few days ago if they wanted to hold him to account. Going through the process is all that is happening now.

It's not even subtle.

If you believe that there is even a 1% chance he'll go then there is nothing to do but let you at it.

yep. only small bit of solace is that he will probably remain as the most hated man in ireland for a very long time. its a small place and that small golden circle is limited. it will be difficult for him here for the forseeable.

the only decent thing left to do is for him to be expelled from the party, which is in Leo's hands...but that's not going to happen either.

Barbeapapa · 25-08-2020 09:02PM

Who else thinks that John Sweeney, owner of the Clifden Station House and sitter at one of the tables on the night in question, will have lost a few well placed supporters over this? (I believe staff - who have been warned not to say a word - were working in the station house til the wee hours. Not for their clientele the 11pm cut off point for drinks)

Also, they all did SOMETHING on the Tuesday night....(Phil played golf on Tuesday too, did he sit in and have room service?) So where was that and why not the fuss?

I agree that the Phil Hogan (well deserved and earned) witch hunt is deflecting from other party goers and other issues.

Rows Grower · 25-08-2020 09:03PM

More lies?

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/hogans-account-questioned-as-hse-confirms-isolation-requirements-1014949.html

maestroamado · 25-08-2020 09:30PM

Barbeapapa wrote: »

Who else thinks that John Sweeney, owner of the Clifden Station House and sitter at one of the tables on the night in question, will have lost a few well placed supporters over this? (I believe staff - who have been warned not to say a word - were working in the station house til the wee hours. Not for their clientele the 11pm cut off point for drinks)

Also, they all did SOMETHING on the Tuesday night....(Phil played golf on Tuesday too, did he sit in and have room service?) So where was that and why not the fuss?

I agree that the Phil Hogan (well deserved and earned) witch hunt is deflecting from other party goers and other issues.

What they did at night.... would be an ecunamuinical matter....

Muahahaha · 25-08-2020 09:36PM

gifted wrote: »

Hogan won't trip up in the interview....he's going no where....people like him never get found out.

Only way he might...might ..leave is if Martin and varadkar "persuade " hogans boss that he has to go.....

Thats exactly what they are doing with the release of this statement 15 minutes ago. The heat in the kitchen has been cranked up considerably. The EU Commission might be independent but it is also dependent on nation states through soft power which the 3 amigoes have exercised tonight. von der Leyen is in an impossible situation now.

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Sir Oxman · 25-08-2020 09:39PM

Big Phil, master negotiator is explaining again...

https://twitter.com/PhilHoganEU/status/1298358481934864385?s=20

Rows Grower · 25-08-2020 09:48PM

Sir Oxman wrote: »

Big Phil, master negotiator is explaining again...

https://twitter.com/PhilHoganEU/status/1298358481934864385?s=20

He's goosed.

jojofizzio · 25-08-2020 09:50PM

Sir Oxman wrote: »

Big Phil, master negotiator is explaining again...

https://twitter.com/PhilHoganEU/status/1298358481934864385?s=20

You can be sure that “clarification “ is for Ursula,not us peasants....
Has he fessed up to her about travelling to Limerick and Roscommon,or is another statement/explanation on the way??
She must be thinking,”talk about making a long story longer”;)

maestroamado · 25-08-2020 09:54PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Thats exactly what they are doing with the release of this statement 15 minutes ago. The heat in the kitchen has been cranked up considerably. The EU Commission might be independent but it is also dependent on nation states through soft power which the 3 amigoes have exercised tonight. von der Leyen is in an impossible situation now.

So now its Irish Government v Irish Comissioner with Ursula referee.
I think Phil will have plenty of time for golf.
I did not think they have balls to go all the way but i suppose no choice after interview...

Oops! · 25-08-2020 10:15PM

That tweet from Hogan has disappeared now! What did it say?

appledrop · 25-08-2020 10:23PM

Oops! wrote: »

That tweet from Hogan has disappeared now! What did it say?

He basicially said in tweet that he never said that he went against/ didnt agree with HSE advice but thats exactly what he did!!!

FFS Phil we all seen your interview! You basically said that what you read on citizen information pageins right + anything else including the actual HSE guidelines for people travelling from overseas is wrong.

Oops! · 25-08-2020 10:35PM

appledrop wrote: »

He basicially said in tweet that he never said that he went against/ didnt agree with HSE advice but thats exactly what he did!!!

FFS Phil we all seen your interview! You basically said that what you read on citizen information pageins right + anything else including the actual HSE guidelines for people travelling from overseas is wrong.

Some ape.... His own arrogance is his down fall... Like alot of them.

Chiparus · 25-08-2020 11:25PM

Sir Oxman wrote: »

Big Phil, master negotiator is explaining again...

https://twitter.com/PhilHoganEU/status/1298358481934864385?s=20

Tweet unavailable?

blackwhite · 25-08-2020 11:34PM

Chiparus wrote: »

Tweet unavailable?

Deleted, and then reposted with replies locked

ChikiChiki · 25-08-2020 11:39PM

blackwhite wrote: »

Deleted, and then reposted with replies locked

Stupid strategy to block the replies. Just raises suspicions. I guess he doesn't want our fellow Europeans seeing the comments.

Hawthorn Tree · 25-08-2020 11:39PM

Barbeapapa wrote: »

Who else thinks that John Sweeney, owner of the Clifden Station House and sitter at one of the tables on the night in question, will have lost a few well placed supporters over this? (I believe staff - who have been warned not to say a word - were working in the station house til the wee hours. Not for their clientele the 11pm cut off point for drinks)

Also, they all did SOMETHING on the Tuesday night....(Phil played golf on Tuesday too, did he sit in and have room service?) So where was that and why not the fuss?

I agree that the Phil Hogan (well deserved and earned) witch hunt is deflecting from other party goers and other issues.

Sweeney is a ruthless businessman and employer from all accounts. Quite the bully.

There were other smaller functions in Clifden that week in other hotels. More information will come out.

Edgware · 26-08-2020 07:41AM

Oops! wrote: »

That tweet from Hogan has disappeared now! What did it say?

This deleting of tweets is getting very popular. Ever Miniskirt Martina is at it. Why the long face?

maestroamado · 26-08-2020 08:51AM

I expect the UK are having a good laugh at the EU. It seems they may be right if the chief trade negotiator does not the simple Covid rules that every child 12+ in Europe knows.
It seems a perticular problem Ursula has is the Trade negotiator be better from one of the smaller EU countries as Countries like Germany have vested interest in this job, i expect some of the smaller countries not have experience in negotiation in English on the world stage.

ohnonotgmail · 26-08-2020 09:02AM

maestroamado wrote: »

I expect the UK are having a good laugh at the EU. It seems they may be right if the chief trade negotiator does not the simple Covid rules that every child 12+ in Europe knows.
It seems a perticular problem Ursula has is the Trade negotiator be better from one of the smaller EU countries as Countries like Germany have vested interest in this job, i expect some of the smaller countries not have experience in negotiation in English on the world stage.

is he the chief trade negotiator for brexit? I dont think he is on the brexit negotiation team at all. he has been involved primarily with negotiations with china. and i dont think anybody in the UK government can point fingers about breaking lockdown rules. Phil could just tell them he drove to clifden to check his eyesight.

Edgware · 26-08-2020 09:07AM

maestroamado wrote: »

I expect the UK are having a good laugh at the EU. It seems they may be right if the chief trade negotiator does not the simple Covid rules that every child 12+ in Europe knows.
It seems a perticular problem Ursula has is the Trade negotiator be better from one of the smaller EU countries as Countries like Germany have vested interest in this job, i expect some of the smaller countries not have experience in negotiation in English on the world stage.

Here comes the old Irish inferiority complex coming through. "What will the Brits think?"

maestroamado · 26-08-2020 09:14AM

Edgware wrote: »

Here comes the old Irish inferiority complex coming through. "What will the Brits think?"

You picked that one wrong, we pander to US now and have done for years.
The brits are gone from EU, they may be right if whats going now is normal practice.
It seems our man is one of their best people and look at the blunder he made.

I do not see the Brexit as the big deal for EU but it is a big deal for Ireland, with Covid, China, and the meat deal with South America are bigger trade deals.
The big thing with UK for me be fishing rules...

Beechwoodspark · 26-08-2020 09:18AM

So Irish times are reporting

A member of the public saw big Phil in a restaurant the night he arrived over from Brussels

And he never listed Roscommon on his timeline that he gave his boss yesterday

He’s his own worst enemy at this stage

26-08-2020 09:36AM

It's all "Phil's Retrospective Fairytale" at this stage. During his escapade of living it up in Ireland it seems he experienced a symptom that had to be checked out (very possibly an angiogram to rule out/stent serious heart blockage) and of course the hospital were obliged to rule out Covid as a factor as far as they could. So it was by chance he got this test, if he had not dr sloped the twinge or whatever it was, he would not have got that test. Now retrospectively he uses it as a false excuse as to why he considered himself free to do what he liked, which he was going to do anyway had he not been interrupted briefly and coincidentally by a potential medical issue. He thought he had a trump card of convenience here.

Edgware · 26-08-2020 10:04AM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

So Irish times are reporting

A member of the public saw big Phil in a restaurant the night he arrived over from Brussels

And he never listed Roscommon on his timeline that he gave his boss yesterday

He’s his own worst enemy at this stage

tick tock tick tock. He has to go

stockshares · 26-08-2020 10:22AM

Brian Hayes needs to go to. Rumours that his guests were from from Vulture Fund Promontoria.

https://twitter.com/1paulmcel/status/1298368214825672710?s=19

Edgware · 26-08-2020 10:33AM

stockshares wrote: »

Brian Hayes needs to go to. Rumours that his guests were from from Vulture Fund Promontoria.

https://twitter.com/1paulmcel/status/1298368214825672710?s=19

Where do you want him to go? He is a private citizen employed by a non public entity.
Did he break any criminal laws that could result in prosecution? You might as well be asking the waiters to resign

golfball37 · 26-08-2020 10:34AM

stockshares wrote: »

Brian Hayes needs to go to. Rumours that his guests were from from Vulture Fund Promontoria.

https://twitter.com/1paulmcel/status/1298368214825672710?s=19

Finally Paddy is asking the right questions. The Hogan witch hunt is to distract from how politics is done here hoping it will be business as usual. I’m sure people struggling with rent in Dublin care more about this than Phil Hogan.

golfball37 · 26-08-2020 10:37AM

Edgware wrote: »

Where do you want him to go? He is a private citizen employed by a non public entity.
Did he break any criminal laws that could result in prosecution? You might as well be asking the waiters to resign

Same as Phil Hogan. It’s up to his boss. I have a serious problem with an ex politician giving access to lawmakers to vulture funds when we have a housing crisis. I don’t have a problem with a European Commissioner going around the country once he was confirmed negative for c19.

Minister for Agriculture attends 81-person golf event in breach of health guidelines

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