FF/FG/Green Next Government

James Brown · 23-08-2020 03:48PM

McMurphy wrote: »

What about it, does it contradict anything else I was saying, or is this goalposts shifting time.

I personally cancelled a family holiday in the Canaries in mid June, and a trip to NYC for this month because of covid concerns, this was personal choice though, not mandatory.

Like your woman you linked to, the govt are advising against all non essentially travel, but if you do go to a non green list country, self isolate upon return.

Quite different from regulations.

In saying that, I wouldn't have went, and I think she was mad to go, but there's still personal choice in the country yet and she self isolated when she returned.

I watched a family funeral from a webcast. Some members attended. I chose not to, don't begrudge them. They did socially distance.
A golf piss up attended by every level of the state as covid worsens, a little different IMO.

They have no respect for the tax paying public. Same as with absentee voting in the Dail, getting pals or underlings to vote.
Entitled elitist trash.

Bishop of hope · 23-08-2020 04:00PM

McMurphy wrote: »

What about it, does it contradict anything else I was saying, or is this goalposts shifting time.

I personally cancelled a family holiday in the Canaries in mid June, and a trip to NYC for this month because of covid concerns, this was personal choice though, not mandatory.

Like your woman you linked to, the govt are advising against all non essentially travel, but if you do go to a non green list country, self isolate upon return.

Quite different from regulations.

In saying that, I wouldn't have went, and I think she was mad to go, but there's still personal choice in the country yet and she self isolated when she returned.

Hmm, free choice, not really.
Fáilte Ireland boss resigned over Italy trip.
Selective reasoning proven I think.

is_that_so · 23-08-2020 04:06PM

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Current polls suggest FF will be hammered.
A FG SF coalition in the offing I think.
Only other option seems to be replacing FG with SF in the current set up.
Could that happen without an election?

Think they will limp through this providing that the schools don't turn into a COVID-19 disaster and that there are no more "incidents". I don't think the new partners are enjoying this at all especially as governments often get a reasonable honeymoon period to settle into portfolios.

McMurphy · 23-08-2020 04:26PM

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Hmm, free choice, not really.
Fáilte Ireland boss resigned over Italy trip.
Selective reasoning proven I think.

What do you mean selective reasoning?

First off, did you read any posts of mine calling for your man to resign, or any mention of his trip anywhere on this site?

Secondly, do you think there's a slight bit of a difference in the head of Fáilte feckin Ireland - and him spearheading a staycation campaign, and some councillor no-one most people probably never heard of before this trip to the Canaries? But your woman is a shinner afterall, so that's Obviously why she's being wheeled out against the head of Fáilte Ireland.

You seem to be now arguing a point of which I haven't even made.

James Brown · 23-08-2020 04:44PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Think they will limp through this providing that the schools don't turn into a COVID-19 disaster and that there are no more "incidents". I don't think the new partners are enjoying this at all especially as governments often get a reasonable honeymoon period to settle into portfolios.

FF and the Greens, (with the conscious element silenced) will hang on in as they'll likely end up worse off in an election around now. FG is a tough call seeing as they have been socially distancing from FF and responsibility, but how effectively remains to be seen.
I expect whispers of Varadkar's discontentment were for window dressing more than anything but Hogan did damage and Woulfe gives an awkward cap to it.

Bishop of hope · 23-08-2020 04:51PM

McMurphy wrote: »

What do you mean selective reasoning?

First off, did you read any posts of mine calling for your man to resign, or any mention of his trip anywhere on this site?

Secondly, do you think there's a slight bit of a difference in the head of Fáilte feckin Ireland - and him spearheading a staycation campaign, and some councillor no-one most people probably never heard of before this trip to the Canaries? But your woman is a shinner afterall, so that's Obviously why she's being wheeled out against the head of Fáilte Ireland.

You seem to be now arguing a point of which I haven't even made.

Perhaps you could go back to SF headquarters and explain All that to them.
You initiated our discussion today not me.
For someone so uncaring about all this you sure went a long way with it.
Why is that?

McMurphy · 23-08-2020 05:49PM

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Perhaps you could go back to SF headquarters and explain All that to them.

What would you like me to explain to them, and why Sinn Fein headquarters? Am i to tell them there's a man on the internet getting his knickers in a knot about mourners at a funeral breaking social distancing, but not at other examples of it happening?

You initiated our discussion today not me.

It's a discussion site, I asked you if you had the same concerns over mourners at Garda Horkans funeral, or was it just the mourners at the Sinn Fein funeral you had issue with, and if that was the case (given that covid doesn't care who mourners are) then was it hypocritical?

For someone so uncaring about all this you sure went a long way with it.
Why is that?

Uncaring? I said social distancing is important, but I'm prepared to overlook the odd instance of if being overlooked, be it for a quick photo opp by government reps, or people mourning at a funeral.

Jimi H · 23-08-2020 06:18PM

Bowie wrote: »

FF and the Greens, (with the conscious element silenced) will hang on in as they'll likely end up worse off in an election around now. FG is a tough call seeing as they have been socially distancing from FF and responsibility, but how effectively remains to be seen.
I expect whispers of Varadkar's discontentment were for window dressing more than anything but Hogan did damage and Woulfe gives an awkward cap to it.

I don’t think FG will agitate for an election until at the very least we get through winter or ideally for them if there is a sign of a vaccine. We are entering a very difficult stage and FF will take a lot of the blame having housing, education and health ministries as well as Taoiseach. That said, the leaving cert results out soon, schools reopening, hospitals could be overwhelmed this winter (even without Covid), Brexit, pandemic payments ending, FF infighting - it could be a question of when not if this government collapses.

Bishop of hope · 23-08-2020 06:23PM

McMurphy wrote: »

What would you like me to explain to them, and why Sinn Fein headquarters? Am i to tell them there's a man on the internet getting his knickers in a knot about mourners at a funeral breaking social distancing, but not at other examples of it happening?

It's a discussion site, I asked you if you had the same concerns over mourners at Garda Horkans funeral, or was it just the mourners at the Sinn Fein funeral you had issue with, and if that was the case (given that covid doesn't care who mourners are) then was it hypocritical?

Uncaring? I said social distancing is important, but I'm prepared to overlook the odd instance of if being overlooked, be it for a quick photo opp by government reps, or people mourning at a funeral.

Good man, a, walk in the park or a, líne or two in a speech wouldnd bother you either I spose?

The uncaring I was talking about was the politicians breaching BTW, I wasn't implying you were uncaring regarding the virus.

McMurphy · 23-08-2020 06:50PM

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Good man, a, walk in the park or a, líne or two in a speech wouldnd bother you either I spose?

The uncaring I was talking about was the politicians breaching BTW, I wasn't implying you were uncaring regarding the virus.

Walk in the park, I was straight out of the traps saying it was no big deal at all, and curtain twitchers being concerned about Leo meeting pals for a tin of beer on a sunny bank holiday needed to get some perspective.

The movie lines, yeah guilty as charged, they pissed me off, wasn't a hanging offence by any means - but with almost 1800 deaths and hundreds of thousands out of work, and businesses shut down etc, it wasn't the time nor the place.

Now, we are finished with my thoughts on things (and you are free to check my post history) there's nothing hypocritical here.

But let's get back to you giving out about the mourners at the shinner funeral, do you think members of AGS or other public servants observed breaking social distancing should resign or be sacked or was it just Sinn Fein that annoyed you? (I don't think you ever did answer that one)

Brendan Bendar · 23-08-2020 07:39PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Walk in the park, I was straight out of the traps saying it was no big deal at all, and curtain twitchers being concerned about Leo meeting pals for a tin of beer on a sunny bank holiday needed to get some perspective.

The movie lines, yeah guilty as charged, they pissed me off, wasn't a hanging offence by any means - but with almost 1800 deaths and hundreds of thousands out of work, and businesses shut down etc, it wasn't the time nor the place.

Now, we are finished with my thoughts on things (and you are free to check my post history) there's nothing hypocritical here.

But let's get back to you giving out about the mourners at the shinner funeral, do you think members of AGS or other public servants observed breaking social distancing should resign or be sacked or was it just Sinn Fein that annoyed you? (I don't think you ever did answer that one)

Cathy Bennett is sporting a great tan these days.

Weather in Monaghan mush have picked up.

Are the tanning salons still closed.

RandomViewer · 23-08-2020 07:59PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Cathy Bennett is sporting a great tan these days.

Weather in Monaghan mush have picked up.

Are the tanning salons still closed.

Was mid 20s up till last Monday in Donegal, 15-17 at night, last few days have been sunny with showers. Lots of very red people about

Bishop of hope · 23-08-2020 08:04PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Walk in the park, I was straight out of the traps saying it was no big deal at all, and curtain twitchers being concerned about Leo meeting pals for a tin of beer on a sunny bank holiday needed to get some perspective.

The movie lines, yeah guilty as charged, they pissed me off, wasn't a hanging offence by any means - but with almost 1800 deaths and hundreds of thousands out of work, and businesses shut down etc, it wasn't the time nor the place.

Now, we are finished with my thoughts on things (and you are free to check my post history) there's nothing hypocritical here.

But let's get back to you giving out about the mourners at the shinner funeral, do you think members of AGS or other public servants observed breaking social distancing should resign or be sacked or was it just Sinn Fein that annoyed you? (I don't think you ever did answer that one)

Not so, no matter how you try to trip it.
Go back and read the original post you started all this by replying to.
You tangented many times today.
My criticism was of SF pontificating on others after their obvious disregard for everyone else themselves.
I paid no heed to mourners nor mentioned them.
If you think the parade of fools that SF took part in was mourning then you have a different version of mourning than me.
That was a show, nothing more.
Bowie talked earlier of mourning personal loss, sounds and looks a lot more genuine than anything that day showed.
Bringing a body in a coffin through the streets to a cemetery for a mock up of a funeral so you can make a few speeches isn't mourning.

FrancieBrady · 23-08-2020 08:06PM

Hogan stopped by Gardai on 17th of August in Kildare for using mobile phone...did he get off on that too one wonders?

FrancieBrady · 23-08-2020 08:45PM

Jaysus...will we have a government by Tuesday at this rate?

https://twitter.com/davidcochrane/status/1297635735986745349

James Brown · 23-08-2020 09:00PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Jaysus...will we have a government by Tuesday at this rate?

https://twitter.com/davidcochrane/status/1297635735986745349

Oh ffs...
Clowns.
You can be sure they all knew it was happening.This just adds.
The judiciary, senate, Dail, Garda, all complicit.

Brendan Bendar · 24-08-2020 05:47AM

RandomViewer wrote: »

Was mid 20s up till last Monday in Donegal, 15-17 at night, last few days have been sunny with showers. Lots of very red people about

That must be it..... windburn from the windswept hills and heather.

markodaly · 24-08-2020 06:01AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Jaysus...will we have a government by Tuesday at this rate?

Are you a betting man Francie? Predictions or just air?

Brendan Bendar · 24-08-2020 07:14AM

Bowie wrote: »

Oh ffs...
Clowns.
You can be sure they all knew it was happening.This just adds.
The judiciary, senate, Dail, Garda, all complicit.

The clergy.....surely there was a priest there?

smurgen · 24-08-2020 07:15AM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

The clergy.....surely there was a priest there?

Michael D Higgins and Dustin the turkey also weirdly quiet.

Brendan Bendar · 24-08-2020 07:24AM

smurgen wrote: »

Michael D Higgins and Dustin the turkey also weirdly quiet.

Indeed

So the politicians, the judiciary, the guards, the clergy, the Little fella, Dustin, the councilors, the Hotels, all golfers, are so far getting the ire of the ‘lefties.

Any word from Jedward, the corrs, the yella vests, the crusties, the woke, the gas lighters and the hoodies?

The caddies must have been there too

Out.... out with the lot....

Now.....who’s next to go.

Bishop of hope · 24-08-2020 07:35AM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Indeed

So the politicians, the judiciary, the guards, the clergy, the Little fella, Dustin, the councilors, the Hotels, all golfers, are so far getting the ire of the ‘lefties.

Any word from Jedward, the corrs, the yella vests, the crusties, the woke, the gas lighters and the hoodies?

The caddies must have been there too

Out.... out with the lot....

Now.....who’s next to go.

Bring back Enda.

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/enda-kenny-refused-invite-to-golf-gate-dinner-and-was-very-unhappy-about-it-going-ahead-39471964.html

Edgware · 24-08-2020 07:38AM

RandomViewer wrote: »

Was mid 20s up till last Monday in Donegal, 15-17 at night, last few days have been sunny with showers. Lots of very red people about

Is Gerry doing the Airbnb?

dundalkfc10 · 24-08-2020 07:48AM

Edgware wrote: »

Is Gerry doing the Airbnb?

You know they have nothing they can defend the cartel with when the but what about SF posts come

mattser · 24-08-2020 08:04AM

markodaly wrote: »

Are you a betting man Francie? Predictions or just air?

They lost their socks to the bookies in the govt formation talks, Marko. Remember when they waded in with a big wedge on the Green party IMPLODING

:p
Wouldn't pay much heed to their predictions.

FrancieBrady · 24-08-2020 08:14AM

A TD and Minister
A Leas Ceann Comhajrle
A vice chairman of FF
6 Whips lost
A supreme Court judge under fire
An EU commissioner gone rogue in Europe

Have I missed anything in the cost of a game of golf? And certain posters determined to talk about SF.

smurgen · 24-08-2020 08:24AM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Indeed

So the politicians, the judiciary, the guards, the clergy, the Little fella, Dustin, the councilors, the Hotels, all golfers, are so far getting the ire of the ‘lefties.

Any word from Jedward, the corrs, the yella vests, the crusties, the woke, the gas lighters and the hoodies?

The caddies must have been there too

Out.... out with the lot....

Now.....who’s next to go.

The lefties. You guys going full trump. When does the fake tan start?

Bishop of hope · 24-08-2020 08:25AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

A TD and Minister
A Leas Ceann Comhajrle
A vice chairman of FF
6 Whips lost
A supreme Court judge under fire
An EU commissioner gone rogue in Europe

Have I missed anything in the cost of a game of golf? And certain posters determined to talk about SF.

No more than you're willing to talk about everyone else.
Anywa, work must go on for me so I'll have to check in later and keep an eye on the news.
Big week this week with schools going back.
If this goes balls up this govt is going to be at an end.

smurgen · 24-08-2020 08:26AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

A TD and Minister
A Leas Ceann Comhajrle
A vice chairman of FF
6 Whips lost
A supreme Court judge under fire
An EU commissioner gone rogue in Europe

Have I missed anything in the cost of a game of golf? And certain posters determined to talk about SF.

These lads are still winded from the election. Let them catch their breath first and we can do a proper summation of what’s going down now. Leo sounded like he should have been prescribed relaxers on RTE yesterday. Strong and stable he ain’t!

Hawthorn Tree · 24-08-2020 08:29AM

Bishop of hope wrote: »

No more than you're willing to talk about everyone else.
Anywa, work must go on for me so I'll have to check in later and keep an eye on the news.
Big week this week with schools going back.
If this goes balls up this govt is going to be at an end.

Teachers are a pampered lot. Do you think they have any confidence the government will lead from the front and take care of them given what they have seen over what they have seen over the past few weeks? The teachers unions will use any excuse to pull the plug.

Has anyone found the Minister for Education yet?

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